Do you think it's hard to implement a female protangnist successfully?

BrokenDreams

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A lot of straight males like watching girls. If you like watching a sweaty hairy male in your porn scenes, I suggest that is a fetish of yours, and does not reflect a general consensus. The most popular porn by far is "solo girl".
I never said,straight males doesn't like girls and "solo girl" being the most popular doesn't prove that lesbian porn being the most popular among straight males.

But,what do I know,your the one having sexual experiences numbering in the millions.
 
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Writing a female protagonist is as easy as writing a male protagonist. It is not rocket science. If the overall conciseness is that the majority of female protagonists are written poorly, it could simply be the writers were not that good, and there wouldn't be much difference if it were a male protagonist.

Half of implementing a successful protagonist is the game itself. Part of the problem is a lot of games with female leads are sex on defeat games, which voids the entire purpose of her story most of the time. The story matters little as I'm only caring about losing to see the 'good stuff'. When it is not sex on defeat, the writing tends to be better as the player can get the good stuff without having to intentionally be dumb and lose.
 

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But,what do I know,your the one having sexual experiences numbering in the millions.
Not quite there yet, but I'm working on it.

sexually active for... let's round it off to 65 years
ranging from once a day to as many as 10 times a day but I'll give a conservative estimate of 3 times per day.

Ignoring the extra days give in leap year, we'll use 365 days per year
65 years x 365 = 23725 days
23725 days x 3 per day = 71175 sexual experiences
 

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you were saying?.....
 

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I useally dont play female protaganist as i want to dominate woman and not be them.

There was this one game who's name elude's me about you playing the daughter that sees her fathers dick and becomes obsessed with him.
It was well written and i ended up playing her as the kind of girl that wants her father to be happy no mather what.
She got mom and dad back togather(they enjoy getting impregnated by the father) and would have found a harem of girls for him.
Apparent i got the good ending in my playthrough as i read other had horrible endings.
The reason i enoyed playing this was because i was playing as my useally victems from the victems point of view.
She wanted daddy to be happy and would glady do whatever it took to ensure he was.
That is useally the state of mind woman in our games end up with.

Writting from a woman perspective is only slightly harder then writting from a male perspective.
Woman dont spend 24/7 thinking about cock or if stuff look sexy.
There more about the emotion's.
Most female protaganist are rape victems.
And i dont play games where i am the victem.

A good tip when creating a female protaganist is ask yourself:
What emotional investment could a woman get from this?
For example: Female boss tells male employe to fuck with her for a raise
Male employe would probley think: Nice, hot sex and a raise.
Male boss tells female employe to fuck her for a raise.
Female employe thinks that she shoudnt but the extra money would allow her to buy more stuff or help pay the kids education.
Or meaby she doesnt want to betray her husband and would reject on that.

Male protaganist can get away with only thinking about getting laid and hiding it form the wife.
Female protaganist require a bit more effort into thinking how it effects the people she care for.
Woman could just think like male and enjoy getting laid for a raise but we call those woman sluts.
Turning woman into sluts is the end goal of most corruption games.

A good female protaganist require a bit more effort then a good male proteganist(dont get me wrong both have horrible versions)
But hard?
Not really more like different then hard.
More focus on the social conquence, peer pressure and less on getting laid.
Dont get me wrong woman can also just want to get laid.
It shoud just be more of a need to be desired then phyical where men are mostly just physical and dont really care for emotions unless then can use it to manipulate the woman into being there fuck toy.
 
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you were saying?.....
I was saying that you don't need to feel ashamed of your sexual preference, in current year.
If you like seeing sweaty hairy dudes in your porn, there's nothing wrong with that. No need to get all defensive, and make excuses for it.
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I was saying that you don't need to feel ashamed of your sexual preference, in current year.
If you like seeing sweaty hairy dudes in your porn, there's nothing wrong with that. No need to get all defensive, and make excuses for it.
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Thank you for the link.I got many useful information from the report.Everyone should enjoy what they like and carry on with the topic which the op intended.
 

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I like female protagonist in non-sexual games like Tomb raider.

but when it comes to adult games i don't play games with female protagonists, i guess i don't like the feeling of getting fucked by a guy
 

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As a female I do prefer female protag games. The problem there is i'm also a lesbian so prefer games where that is an option and those are quite rare.

Not really. I don't mind straight sex in games. With male protag being the most common I don't have much choice. Seeing straight sex doesn't turn me off but it doesn't turn me on either, it's just there.
As to the first, that isn't a problem, or at least it shouldn't be. (Curb stomps for the assholes who try to make it one.) I agree there should be more lesbian choices in games, and hope that it expands. Having options is a Good Thing™.

As to the second, I hear you. Gay male sex does nothing for me as a straight male, while straight sex and lesbian sex is a turn-on for me. Mainly because watching a woman get off fires me up, whoever it is she gets off with. I don't get the disgust that some people claim when seeing gay porn. Sometimes it makes me laugh (if you think the acting in straight porn is bad, you ain't seen nothing!) Mostly it's just boring, though.

First person vs third person:
Whichever you're more comfortable writing. I prefer first person for VNs, but third works too.

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The problem there is i'm also a lesbian so prefer games where that is an option and those are quite rare.
This is why Abraham Lincoln started the Republican party. The needs of the few are just as important as the needs of a Democratic majority. Forget what is most popular, Ignore the critics, make a game that you like. Democrats want to enslave you and force you to be like everyone else, all they care about is what is most popular, not what is right.

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sponsored by the Republicans for more Lesbian games committee.
 

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very few women wear high heels while at home,
Very few women wear high heels at all unless they have to, those things aint comfy.

As far s bedroom stuff goes, never had that issue on the dyke side but a few of my straight friends and my twinsy say some guys like the whole stocking and high heel thing in bed.

I prefer my fluffy bunny slippers. Nowhere near as sexy but sooo comfy.
 
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Very few women wear high heels at all unless they have to, those things aint comfy.

As far s bedroom stuff goes, never had that issue on the dyke side but a few of my straight friends and my twinsy say some guys like the whole stocking and high heel thing in bed.

I prefer my fluffy bunny slippers. Nowhere near as sexy but sooo comfy.
I'd never kick a woman out of my bed for wearing fluffy bunny slippers. Heels, though? Those things are dangerous!
 
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For the protagonist, it is common to make them a blank slate. Fair enough, my choices should shape their personality as we go. For those that aren't, though, I think part of it for me is that to find them interesting as a protagonist, they need to be interesting to start with. I'm far more fond of capable women than someone who just looks good in stocking and heels.

For instance - this is hot!

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She'd be my first choice as protagonist or love interest in a game where all the other choices were supermodels in lingerie.
 

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Very few women wear high heels at all unless they have to, those things aint comfy.

As far s bedroom stuff goes, never had that issue on the dyke side but a few of my straight friends and my twinsy say some guys like the whole stocking and high heel thing in bed.

I prefer my fluffy bunny slippers. Nowhere near as sexy but sooo comfy.
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If she's your protagonist I think the POV idea would be... unique, to say the least. You'd have to learn tell people apart by their navel, or, looking upward, their nostrils. :p
He's only 6'2" I'm 6'6" and she IS wearing heels. There aren't many games made from my perspective. Everyone looks up my nostrils.
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No. It's not. It's just not something people like to risk doing.

The problem for me with the games here is that most female protagonist games are... shit from my perspective. The amount of games that are based on "you play as X, go out and get raped in RPGM" is staggering. I don't like playing as the one being trampled. I'm the player. What happens in the game should depend on my choice. It's the same difference between good BDSM and rape - one is a choice, the other is forced upon you. And while I have no problem with ANY type of content in principle and if there is the audience for such a product - good on the devs making it... it's not my product. I don't play such games even outside of the adult scene.
I'm also kind of not interested in the tropes used when writing with a female protagonist. The settings, the characters, the plot, the drama... meh. I do not care about schoolgirl problem. Now, if you let me play as a succubus trapped in a human body and my goal is to corrupt a bunch of people. Ok, now we are talking. Or maybe twist the usual stuff - the protagonist gets abducted and used as a sex-slave, but has the options to ether loose her individuality, slowly turning in to a brainless drone from all the abuse or embracing her new life and making the most of it or even better slowly using the week points of the men around her to turn the tables on them. One can write a pretty crazy corruption game with such a premise. But no, 9 out of 10 female protagonist games I've tried just have no choice in them.

Part of my preferences is that I am a dom, I like dominating people, I love the corruption concept (tho outside some forms of mind control/blackmail/magic plot there are very few games it's NOT done horribly bad). I see no reason one can not just gender-swap the protagonist in most such games. Honestly considering the abundance of incest games, playing as the little sister, who actually want's to A) bang her hot-brother(s) and dad, B) bang her hot sister(s) and mother and C) watch them all bang each-other would be a refreshing concept. Basically, why are there no options to go in to the perverted aunt role? You know, the character who actually gets off on corrupting their family.
The main arguments I've seen are both dumb - nobody wants to play the slut and women don't work that way. The first one is just wrong, IMO, tho it has some merit (just look at how game-threads turn when any option of sharing (or even worse - NTR) is introduced). The second one is just wrong and kind of sexist - women have the same capacity as men to be perverted, evil, no redeeming qualities people as men do. And yes, women have a libido, women can be creeps and so on. Like, go befriend a woman. As a real friend, not as a potential girlfriend and get to the point of sex talk with friends. We are not that different.

And we don't really know how much of an audience there is for such products. And like it or not, this is what in the end drives most game development. Devs have to pay the bills in the end.

I'm pretty certain the "most writers are male" is not the reason we don't have such games, btw. frap nails it on the head - they are characters. If you write them as just that - characters, slapping the relevant genitals and sexual orientation is almost an afterthought. The whole problem probably comes from people thinking there is anything special about writing women, minorities and so on. Nah, there isn't one. Don't listen to a handful of tumblur idiots, who pretend there is anything. People have written whole movies with gender-neutral scrips ad they worked spectacularly. But every time people decide there IS something special... well, you get the Ghosbusters remake.
The problem is, since time immemorial there will be a woman, who would not like your female character and go on to complain about her. Here is a hint - most such complainers have no idea what they are talking about. Does your character have goals of their own and do they act upon them? Cool, their gender/sex/race is irrelevant. A good rule of thumb.

PS: I also bet a lot of devs actually have much better and fuller sexual and social life than the people proclaiming porn game devs are some basement neckbeard incels.
 
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He's only 6'2" I'm 6'6" and she IS wearing heels. There aren't many games made from my perspective. Everyone looks up my nostrils.
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That would be interesting, though. Do a POV game as a very tall character. Could have a recurring thing with certain doorways (as I would imagine you have had.)
 

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Very few women wear high heels at all unless they have to, those things aint comfy.

As far s bedroom stuff goes, never had that issue on the dyke side but a few of my straight friends and my twinsy say some guys like the whole stocking and high heel thing in bed.

I prefer my fluffy bunny slippers. Nowhere near as sexy but sooo comfy.
That was the whole point. A porn game has nothing to do with real life. Bad enough if it is set in a present day setting, if people also dress like in real life, it gets boring. Virtual characters don't care about comfort, so for them it's always looks over comfort. Of course it has to fit the setting, but otherwise I'd dress characters in porn games as sexy as possible. BTW my girlfriend never wears heels and that is fine. Porn games should not be like the real world and the real world should be even less like porn games.