VN - Others - Completed - Double Homework [Epilogue 2] [Palmer/Love-Joint]

  1. 3.00 star(s)

    someknave

    Really unsure about how I feel about this game. A lot of good and a lot of bad.

    The visuals are for the most part pretty, but I feel that this tends to be over emphasised in reviews. The character models are cute, if a bit plastic,. The sex scenes are fine but very samey.

    The story again is a mix, the overarching themes are compelling and there is some well written stuff there but there are some real weaknesses, there is very little agency and the speed of the plot is glacial, text can be long winded and repetitive and the character issues (which i am about to get to) massively impact on the plot, and not in a good way.

    The antagonist is a joke, a parody, and it makes it hard to feel like he's a threat. A lot of reviews seem to hate the character (and you are definitely supposed to), but he is definitely more of an annoyance than a threat.
    The other characters who aren't the main interests are fairly 1 dimensional although each do have an aspect that is slightly contrary to their initial impression, so 1.5 dimensional maybe. And you don't see much of any of them outside of their gimmick and sex, this isn't a huge issue as they are supporting cast but it might have been nice to see just a hint of their lives outside the MC's .
    The main love interests (read sisters) are quite compelling definitely the most engaging part of the cast which is a good thing because between them they are in almost half of the scenes. They aren't without fault, neither really feel like a real human, (not like any person I've ever met) but they are engaging and humorous and very different to each other which is nice.

    This brings us to the MC and boy do I have thoughts. He is dealing with some massive stuff, and the portrayal of that is fine, not great, not awful, fine. He is socially and emotionally really stupid. This is not necessarily a problem but the majority of the drama and story beats rely on him being stupid and that is annoying , particularly as the player has no agency to change his behaviour. He is also a bit of a scumbag, and everyone likes him even after he hurts them, which does happen in real life but is still uncomfortable.

    There is a trope in games like this that cheating is bad enough to cause momentary drama but people get over it quickly. That is just not how that works, but the game just straight up forbids you from being open about your activities or anything for that matter, the character lies all of the time and is always almost immediately forgiven. He even lies once he commits to the two main interests that he will always talk ahead of time about what he does with either of them. Yet everyone just acts like that's fine.

    I wouldn't mind if he cheated as much if the other characters weren't always going on about what a good guy he is, but he is not really, he cares about his own trauma and sex and then about his main interests.

    For all that, I still do enjoy the game but I can't give it any higher rating than this.
  2. 5.00 star(s)

    skrusher

    Just finished ep 19, just missing the epilogues. But I can say that the game is great. Well written, engaging and original story. The girls are beautiful and the renders in general are very well done. The sex scenes are good, but they are short, focusing more on the MC cumming than the rest, and I also missed animations in these scenes. The game engine could be better. It is much better than in DFD, but the fade in/fade out it's still too long.

    Even so the game deserves 5 stars.
  3. 4.00 star(s)

    Eisbaerle

    I played now all episodes of this visual novel and try my best to say what I liked in this.

    Story 4/5

    The story was something different from all the casual VN´s u can find here and there, it was unique, even if some parts was kinda weird to read because it didnt fitted well in the current situation or episode.

    Graphic 5/5

    For bigger visual novels its maybe a standard way to do,but I really liked it, even if some things like the backgrounds could have done more "realistic", what I mean is mostly the way it got coloured or shadowed(?) and the most I´ve played so far are many times the same, so its actually a nice change to watch.

    Gameplay 4,5/5

    Sometimes I wished I would have more ways to handle the current situation and the loading time is sometimes a piece of shit towards me..


    So, it was good, could have done stuff way better or in a different way but I think it fitted well all in all. For Dennis I wished he would have been less a a*hole? Idk i didnt srsly care what going to happen to him then.
    At least I think LJ did what Palmer would have want. I cant really tell but it feels like it.

    I hope the team of Love-Joint learned a few things for their next project and do it better. Good luck to you guys.

    (I hope its understandable what I meant to write here, if not I´m sorry.)
  4. 4.00 star(s)

    cxx

    good avn which only downside is that it isn't available as offline and on online version content downloads tend to be so long that player can empty whole pot or 2 of coffee per 1 chapter while waits that downloads finish.

    good story while being silly and good models (although their constant changing pose gets irritating) and interesting personas.

    major downside is that it's over and no more redhead twins or others.
  5. 4.00 star(s)

    dietmountaindew

    Coming back to this game for the first time since the news, and sadly, the game will always have a melancholy cloud hanging over it for me, as I was in the middle of playing it when I heard.

    The VN itself, despite its flaws, such as the clunky game engine and at times, overly-dramatic plot, feels very...nostalgic to me. I can't quite place why, but I really enjoyed playing up until I stopped around episode 9ish.

    Most seem to not like the MC, but I ended up relating to him a lot. He's just a dude going through some shit. He has flaws, sure, but don't we all? I like the dude.

    And I adore Tamara. She is, by far, one of my favorite looking characters render-wise, ever.

    4* for the weird, charming, nostalgic feeling and for Tamara.

    And rest in power, Palmer.
  6. 4.00 star(s)

    kartolas

    There's a lot of stuff I love about this game but there's one thing that puts me off: I hate the fact that the MC is forced to do a LOT of stuff without giving choices to the player. Stuff that I would never do. The player just goes along for the ride and the only thing he has a say in it is related only to the side girls. This is an harem game that forces you to incest and any game that forces relations on the player is a no go for me.

    Girls are gorgeous and all have their own personalities and problems, all but the MC and that's quite sad. This game could have been so good. I feel like I will never forget these girls...

    Graphics: 5*
    Story: 2* (the MC...)

    Thank you and good luck.

    Best wishes for the Love-Joints future.

    RIP Palmer.

    P.S. Devs made the MC completely retarded. You've been warned.

    Ok. I finished and all things considered, this is a nice game with beautiful characters specially the roommates. I ended with Rachel btw.

    Thank you

    Version: 19 (end?)
  7. 3.00 star(s)

    OleJackRipper

    New experience with a game that is supposed to be played online and thus was downloading the whole time. I didn't play the whole thing.
    Don't know if I'll return to it when I get better wifi.
    As of now, my takeaways are:
    Johanna is too pure for this world
  8. 2.00 star(s)

    Sembei13

    1) Elephant in the room : I'm aware of the tragedy with palmer. Maybe the state of this game is related to that, I don't know and I will not try to understand some events I know nothing about. This bad review have nothing to do with his memory, only with the game itself.
    2) I'm not a native speaker so I hope it will not be to painfull to read.

    1star for the visuals, 1 star for dedication I supose. 18chapters (maybe more time will tell), even ifit's bad, it's work.
    The rest is pretty much terrible. I can't list all the problems this game has but the main ones are :

    The MC. Pretty big problem and even bigger because of the lack of choices. You have to follow the decisions of someone totally stupid. He keep whining about his problems, try nothing to solve them and when he do... Well he is stupid... But mostly everything solve itself, because it just does.
    Following someone who succed or fail is totally fine... When he tries. Mc doesn't. I'm ok with drama or tragedy, here this is just stuff happening and sometimes the MC reacting (poorly) to it.

    Tamara. She's a horrible person for 15 (maybe a bit less) episodes... Then do a "face turn" (become nice... ish) and everything is forgiven/forgotten. And you can't get rid of her because MC "can't say no" to her. Sure she has reasons to be horrible... But she's still horrible

    Dennis. A big one. He is supposed to be the antagonist, your nemesis, the nerd against the jock... He is nothing but a pebble in you shoe. You don't feel anything about it, you don't "hate" a pebble, you only wish it will disapear... and it doesn't. He's just a prop to annoy you.
    This is not how you make an antagonist (or any character). This is very very bad (at least I feel something for tamara even if it's bad)

    Those things affect the whole game. The harem elements -> when you see the Mc can't manage a single/double relationship (forced by the game) you don't wan't to had a 3rd or more. He whine enough as it is and he do enough stupid things on his own.
    The problems the Mc face are mostly stupid, could be solved easyly... But you have to watch a stupid character struggling 2 chapters (or more) until things solve by themselves. You can see them happening from far away, MC does not. The secret of the school... If it's true, is one of the dumbest thing ever (all this mystery for this? Really ?)

    Almost every of the 18 chapter were unpleasant. I've played all of them, didn't skip dialogues because off daughter for desert. I didn't want to believe the writing could fall this low, I was hopping a twist every chapter, a chance to scream genius... There is none.

    It's really sad
  9. 2.00 star(s)

    Hahn1900

    woah hard to judge on this one...

    Has it good moments but also bad... if there was no skip button this would be a pain in the ass to play. Sorry to say that, but 90% of this game are endless inner monologue without any useful informations... and they repeat themselfs every now and then. In the first two chapters there is the same monologue going one about six times. "if they knew what ive done, bla bla lba, im afraid bla bla bla" come on guys... one time is enough. I get it in the first the second, the MC is depressed of what happened.

    I start playing because DFD was really good... but this one is far away from the DFD niveau i have to say. Played too chapter 6 for now, but since here its most of the time boring, and i skipped most of the monologues, cause there is nothing happening anyways, and you get zero infos from them too.

    I give 2 stars so far, cause the look of the charactres is very good. i love Tamara, Johanna and Amy (freckles and red hair... those get me everytime)

    There are some sweet moments in this game between the charactres but those are very rare, most of the time this Story doenst get anywhere and is really really boring. But im not suprised that there are over 19 chapters... cause most content is just filling up the time... to be honest, the whole thing could be done in 5 chapters i think. Cut the monologues and the game is half as long as it is.
  10. 1.00 star(s)

    m0us3r

    Those two redhead girls may be pretty, but the pictures are of mediocre quality, and the writing is just endless whining of inner dialogue. After 30 minutes of skip-reading I realized: it's unplayable.
  11. 2.00 star(s)

    Wicked Garden

    Pros: High Quality renders

    Cons: The Mc is a cowardly simp, he'll probably end up offing himself.

    Storyline feels like a bad soap opera. Like a twisted version of Dawson's Creek(I've never watched that show and you can't prove I did).

    The engine is trash and makes the game less enjoyable, it's slow and unappealing. It's a struggle to remain engaged with the story.

    The choices aren’t really important whatsoever, maybe a few, but overall no not really.

    You’re constantly getting bested and outmaneuvered by some slimy, scrawny, cowardly geek by the name of Dennis... and he wants to cuck you and will probably succeed.

    NTR loomed over this entire game from the start, but instead of adding it the beginning they waited and collected funds from people like others Devs usually do and added it later in the game., so I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a thing, but even if it's not added I kind of lost interest now. Like I said previously Dennis whole presence and vibe was annoying... and there wasn't a damn thing you could do about it. He's was unavoidable, like a turd that wouldn't flush.

    Beautiful, flawless art no doubt, but even that's not enough to save it.
  12. 5.00 star(s)

    Zonobert

    I genuinely care about these characters (minus the antagonist, whom I could've used less of). Seriously, while the writing can be a tad on the angsty side and takes itself a bit too seriously, they really nailed the girls. Choosing between the romantic interests is super hard for me because I really want them all to be happy, you know?
    And damn, the game delivers customer satisfaction like no other without animations.
    Likes: imk
  13. 5.00 star(s)

    wintergreen44

    The writing and characterization are a cut above what is usually found in this type of game, particularly through about the first half of it. Its nice to see something written by someone who appears to have had some life experiences rather than just mashing together the plots from a few porn videos. The characters do begin to blend together as the focus shifts to an increasingly fantastical plot in the later episodes, which is unfortunate.

    On the negative side the MC's passivity towards the incel character strains credibility at times. There really isn't much new art in most chapters. And every male character with an open 70's collar, V neck sweater and little tie is bizarre.

    Still, its long and engaging, insightful at times, and has excellent art. IMO its one of the best games on here.
  14. 2.00 star(s)

    Vollezar

    Only giving 2 stars for the renders. They beautiful.
    I can't keep up with whatever story there is though. chapters are super short and half of the playtime is taken up by transitions. Got really bored, really fast. I tried playing online version and the load times are even worse. And don't blame my PC I have a1Gig connection and have no trouble running RDR2 at 60. Game is just poorly coded with needlessly long animated transitions.
    One pro tip. If a woman decides to go out dating random assholes to make you jealous... walk the other way. It's an idiotic movie cliche that needs to die.
  15. 5.00 star(s)

    Scarlett's nightmare

    Wow, I can't help but feel the negative reviews are completely unjustified.

    Few games have a production value like this one, especially in terms of characterization and story. I really like how it develops over time, it stays interesting and adult themes flow fairly naturally compared to what you can expect in this genre.

    The engine is fine as it is. The phase out/in is not a problem, unless you just want to fast forward to the next sex scene.

    This is a great, engaging, emotional game with just about the right amount of mystery and tension.

    I have to say - with Palmers skill in building emotion and depth to their characters, they could make one hell of a mean NTR game. :oops:

    Anyway, excellent work! Try it! And this is coming from someone that bounced off hard of their first game.
  16. 2.00 star(s)

    hisfs

    Consistent high quality pictures.

    The unresponsive interface and the unskippable seconds of fade-out/fade-in interrupt the game pace every few sentences makes it a slog worse than the grind-fest games. With instant text display, the character's expressions are sometimes still in a fade by the time you're halfway through the text. I'd give it a pass if the variables for the fade durations were identical in every chapter (the only issue I had hacking these in chapter 2 was nothing a quicksave/quickload didn't fix), but I can't be bothered to automate the minification-deobfuscation multiple times.

    There's no preloading of images, so you'll have to look at a progress bar several times per episodes.

    The writing might be enjoyable if any rhythm wasn't killed by the engine's pace.
  17. 5.00 star(s)

    masterspeed

    I really enjoy the story of this VN and would play it even without the nudity.
    The story is quite interesting and I didn't skip any of the dialog yet (ep.18).
    Art and renders are done very good and the developers seem to care about the game.
  18. 5.00 star(s)

    Stan Marsh

    very good game with much quality at all characters. the girls are very beatiful and also the story is pretty good. The same developer created a lot of games like this and keep the samne high level as his other works.
  19. 5.00 star(s)

    UIGL

    This game has everything!!!! Such a wonderful story and such sweet and cute actors that the sexual content isn't important anymore. Thank you so much Palmer for your astonishing effort to create a game with an entertaining content. I don't know how I'm going to be able to wait a whole month for next update.
  20. 3.00 star(s)

    RanchFTW

    I really want to rate this game a 1 star. However, in fairness I have to say the visuals in this game are top notch. Perhaps some of the best in any game on this site. All of the girls are beautiful and the locations are well made. I do have a gripe even with the visuals and that's the transitions. They're everywhere and take place way too often! It gets incredibly annoying very quickly.

    However, the rest of this "game" is awful. in truth, I'm not sure you can call this a game since it's really a visual novel. There are choices, but they don't matter the vast majority of the time. You'll be railroaded through the story no matter what you do. There is one path and you will stick to it. The "choices" may alter some text occasionally. The only discernible choice that mattered was one regarding the two main girls, and that only changed whom is featured at the end of Chapter 18.

    I honestly don't know how I suffered through 18 chapters. The story is utterly ridiculous and only masochists are going to enjoy it. Everything that happens seems to be done to create drama and inflict suffering on the MC. Every chapter ends on a cliffhanger and none of them are good. Every single one of them is used to ratchet up the drama and mental pressure on the MC. While that's crazy, it's even worse when you consider the backstory you're given for the MC. He would have cracked like a walnut under all the blackmail very quickly, and either killed Dennis with a pencil or taken himself out.