VN Ren'Py Abandoned Dr. Amana, Sexual Therapist [v2.0.0P] [Ianvs]

[RomanHume]

So here's the deal. In the really, real world, I hate when a woman talks during sex. If you're doing anything other than moaning, I'm failing. In other words, I don't get off on "sex talk". Not being a fan of it, makes it really hard to write because every sex scene I feel like I'm just writing the same shit. "....tight pussy...", "...wet pussy....", "...felt good..." etc.

Now I know from feedback that a lot of folks do like the sex talk. Since making the decision to only allow the reader into Roger's head, that means I can't really convey what the female characters are thinking.

In short, my sex scenes are still very lacking. Players have said, I agree. So the question becomes, do I continue plugging away with substandard sex scenes, or do I bring on someone to write just the sex dialogue?

Thoughts? Opinions? What does the community think?

 

[Ozel]

So here's the deal. In the really, real world, I hate when a woman talks during sex. If you're doing anything other than moaning, I'm failing. In other words, I don't get off on "sex talk". Not being a fan of it, makes it really hard to write because every sex scene I feel like I'm just writing the same shit. "....tight pussy...", "...wet pussy....", "...felt good..." etc.

Now I know from feedback that a lot of folks do like the sex talk. Since making the decision to only allow the reader into Roger's head, that means I can't really convey what the female characters are thinking.

In short, my sex scenes are still very lacking. Players have said, I agree. So the question becomes, do I continue plugging away with substandard sex scenes, or do I bring on someone to write just the sex dialogue?

Thoughts? Opinions? What does the community think?

Depends. Is this a majority of your player base, or just a very vocal minority? If it's just a vocal minority, I'd just carry on as is. However, since you say you agree that they are lacking, I think you already have your answer. XD

 

[ZTex]

In short, my sex scenes are still very lacking. Players have said, I agree. So the question becomes, do I continue plugging away with substandard sex scenes, or do I bring on someone to write just the sex dialogue?

Wait ...

Substandard scenes ?
Where are they and why haven't i unlocked them yet.


No don't change, the game is fine and talk is cheap. Even this talk, but i still need to be paid.

 

[desmosome]

So here's the deal. In the really, real world, I hate when a woman talks during sex. If you're doing anything other than moaning, I'm failing. In other words, I don't get off on "sex talk". Not being a fan of it, makes it really hard to write because every sex scene I feel like I'm just writing the same shit. "....tight pussy...", "...wet pussy....", "...felt good..." etc.

Now I know from feedback that a lot of folks do like the sex talk. Since making the decision to only allow the reader into Roger's head, that means I can't really convey what the female characters are thinking.

In short, my sex scenes are still very lacking. Players have said, I agree. So the question becomes, do I continue plugging away with substandard sex scenes, or do I bring on someone to write just the sex dialogue?

Thoughts? Opinions? What does the community think?

In real life or porn videos, there isn't much sex talk. That's pretty normal and its fine because the physical and visual stimulation is overwhelming in those cases. I really think the VN medium is specifically suited for mental stimulation that can come from the dialogue during sex. For one thing, no matter how great the renders or animations may be, its just limited to still shots or 3 second loops. There just isn't enough there to jerk it to.

That is my personal opinion though and some people get their jollies from these visuals so eh... Ultimately, its your decision and finding the right person to write sex scenes that lives up to your expectations could be hard too. I suppose the first step would be to make a patreon poll and see what they think.

 

[RomanHume]

Depends. Is this a majority of your player base, or just a very vocal minority? If it's just a vocal minority, I'd just carry on as is. However, since you say you agree that they are lacking, I think you already have your answer. XD

Wait ...

Substandard scenes ?
Where are they and why haven't i unlocked them yet.


No don't change, the game is fine and talk is cheap. Even this talk, but i still need to be paid.

My general impression is that a lot of games include stream of consciousness of one or both parties in a sex scene. Sometimes this ends up as actual dialogue. But in either case, there seems to be an expectation that the amount of reading during a sex scene should be akin to that of a non sex scene.

I can come up with an infinite variety of sexual positions and visual pleasures, but when it comes to the written word during sex, it all gets very repetitive very fast.

As to whether it is a vocal minority or a majority, that I cannot say for certain, which is one reason I'm throwing the question out there to see what comes back.

 

[RomanHume]

In real life or porn videos, there isn't much sex talk. That's pretty normal and its fine because the physical and visual stimulation is overwhelming in those cases. I really think the VN medium is specifically suited for mental stimulation that can come from the dialogue during sex. For one thing, no matter how great the renders or animations may be, its just limited to still shots or 3 second loops. There just isn't enough there to jerk it to.

That is my personal opinion though and some people get their jollies from these visuals so eh... Ultimately, its your decision and finding the right person to write sex scenes that lives up to your expectations could be hard too. I suppose the first step would be to make a patreon poll and see what they think.

Oh the application process is easy. It'll go like this:

How many ways can you say: "That pussy is so wet!"

How many ways can you say: "That pussy is so tight!"

How many ways can you say: "I love how she sucks my dick!"

How many ways can you say: "That pussy tastes so good!"


The applicant with the most numerous and unique responses wins.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Someone to write longer sexual descriptions for the scenes could be interesting if you find someone able to write in a style consistent with what you enjoy.
Also as you mentioned quite a few games use the point of view of both participants (or more) when doing the written description of the sexual scene, even when there is only one protagonist. So that could also be used to make the scene seem longer.

 

[RomanHume]

Holy shit! My git tree looks more like a gnarly little shrub. Time to prune this bitch!



-Sorry, that was completely off topic.....

 

[Ozel]

Oh the application process is easy. It'll go like this:

How many ways can you say: "That pussy is so wet!"

How many ways can you say: "That pussy is so tight!"

How many ways can you say: "I love how she sucks my dick!"

How many ways can you say: "That pussy tastes so good!"


The applicant with the most numerous and unique responses wins.

Well, you could instead insert audio clips of moaning with varying intensities and see how that works out. Softer, slower, quieter moaning sounds when things are slower, louder and more intense as the scene ramps up to harder, faster, rougher sex. I'm not sure how well that would go over with the players, though, hearing the same moaning sounds for every woman in every scene. Sounds like the same problem in a different package. XD

 

[desmosome]

Oh the application process is easy. It'll go like this:

How many ways can you say: "That pussy is so wet!"

How many ways can you say: "That pussy is so tight!"

How many ways can you say: "I love how she sucks my dick!"

How many ways can you say: "That pussy tastes so good!"


The applicant with the most numerous and unique responses wins.

hahaha, I don't think sex dialogue is quite that simple though XD

For example, lets take a case of the alleyway sex with Nanami on the red path. Maybe it could include some stuff like this.



.... ** I tried to write some examples but I suck ass at this and it was cringy af LOL.

Ok what I'm picturing is like typical male dom talk. "You act tough but look how wet you are" "You like this don't you?" "You may be competent, but I think your main calling is on your knees." "I am in this mess because of your god damn plan." "Put your hands on the car and stick your ass out." Bla bla bla

And Nanami can be like "mmmh... shut up.." "fuck you... " Mostly not very talkative. Makes rebuttals but complies and gets off on being dominated.

Mix in some descriptive text and viola!

Ok obviously I suck at writing, but I do have a pretty good eye for what works in a scene (I think... lol).

 

[UncleVT]

So here's the deal. In the really, real world, I hate when a woman talks during sex. If you're doing anything other than moaning, I'm failing. In other words, I don't get off on "sex talk". Not being a fan of it, makes it really hard to write because every sex scene I feel like I'm just writing the same shit. "....tight pussy...", "...wet pussy....", "...felt good..." etc.

Now I know from feedback that a lot of folks do like the sex talk. Since making the decision to only allow the reader into Roger's head, that means I can't really convey what the female characters are thinking.

In short, my sex scenes are still very lacking. Players have said, I agree. So the question becomes, do I continue plugging away with substandard sex scenes, or do I bring on someone to write just the sex dialogue?

Thoughts? Opinions? What does the community think?

In the really, real world, the talk, particularly the dirty talk, happens before and even after the sex. That spicy the things.

I find ridiculous and kind down some lines during the act, like "fill me" "you're great in this" or "gimme more". During the sex people must enjoy. If not, they start talking.

 

[ZTex]

hahaha, I don't think sex dialogue is quite that simple though XD

For example, lets take a case of the alleyway sex with Nanami on the red path. Maybe it could include some stuff like this.



.... ** I tried to write some examples but I suck ass at this and it was cringy af LOL.

Ok what I'm picturing is like typical male dom talk. "You act tough but look how wet you are" "You like this don't you?" "You may be competent, but I think your main calling is on your knees." "I am in this mess because of your god damn plan." "Put your hands on the car and stick your ass out." Bla bla bla

And Nanami can be like "mmmh... shut up.." "fuck you... " Mostly not very talkative. Makes rebuttals but complies and gets off on being dominated.

Mix in some descriptive text and viola!

Ok obviously I suck at writing, but I do have a pretty good eye for what works in a scene (I think... lol).

This here is exactly why we don't need it.

You don't need "Pet or Dirty" talk during sex to accurately portray what's going on. If the characters are developed well enough (and they are) you can do all of your scene setup before they get down to fucking/love making/casual sex.

Take for example two of the scenes in the game currently Nanami and Your Wife. Notice how there's no need to portray Nanami as frigid or wanting when she does all of that in advance by pushing you into giving her the rough sex she's craving due to her own frustrations with life. Contrast that to your wife who you have a very warm and sensual build up to love making where the emphasis of the scene is placed solely on you pleasing her.

I don't need Nanami to be degraded or yelled at during sex to understand that she's a sub in the situation because the animation and previous dialogue set that up already and the sex sequence is the climax, much the same way i don't need pet talk with the wife telling her how good she is for putting up with the MC.

 

[prrt]

So here's the deal. In the really, real world, I hate when a woman talks during sex. If you're doing anything other than moaning, I'm failing. In other words, I don't get off on "sex talk". Not being a fan of it, makes it really hard to write because every sex scene I feel like I'm just writing the same shit. "....tight pussy...", "...wet pussy....", "...felt good..." etc.

Now I know from feedback that a lot of folks do like the sex talk. Since making the decision to only allow the reader into Roger's head, that means I can't really convey what the female characters are thinking.

In short, my sex scenes are still very lacking. Players have said, I agree. So the question becomes, do I continue plugging away with substandard sex scenes, or do I bring on someone to write just the sex dialogue?

Thoughts? Opinions? What does the community think?

Let's say I got through a couple of japanese games lately .
During the gymnastic scenes in most of them you got a lot of talking and a lot of sounds (don't even start about the voiced games) thankfully most have a skip function .
No not a fan of that .
Also it doesn't have to be like a sportscommantator telling me al the time what i already can see .
A bit of pillowtalk after the dirty deed is more realistic as talking during it .

 

[AdamJohn36]

So here's the deal. In the really, real world, I hate when a woman talks during sex. If you're doing anything other than moaning, I'm failing. In other words, I don't get off on "sex talk". Not being a fan of it, makes it really hard to write because every sex scene I feel like I'm just writing the same shit. "....tight pussy...", "...wet pussy....", "...felt good..." etc.

Now I know from feedback that a lot of folks do like the sex talk. Since making the decision to only allow the reader into Roger's head, that means I can't really convey what the female characters are thinking.

In short, my sex scenes are still very lacking. Players have said, I agree. So the question becomes, do I continue plugging away with substandard sex scenes, or do I bring on someone to write just the sex dialogue?

Thoughts? Opinions? What does the community think?

I find the sex scenes in the game very enjoyable and not lacking in the slightest for me. Dirty talk is not needed in my opinion. What is happening is already conveyed and i have no problem "fully rising up" to enjoy everything the sex scenes have to offer.

 

[Ilhares]

Thoughts? Opinions? What does the community think?

Like you, I'm not a big fan of the dirty talk. I'm fine with how it gets some folks off, but really, if I'm present with somebody and what I'm doing to them is insufficient to get them off, we're just not going to be compatible.

They should be occupied with the doing, not the saying.

 

[prrt]

Well , reading last comments that will be a lot of silent fucks.

 

[UncleVT]

Well , reading last comments that will be a lot of silent fucks.

Moaning during the act isn't silent fuck.

 

[Ozel]

Another thing to take into account is the characters and whether or not such a thing really fits with her character. The game is still early in development and we really don't know a lot of them all that well yet. Nanami doesn't really strike me as a character who wants a lot of blabbing, just wants the MC to be rough and dominant. However, Jane, with her more open, rebellious, flirtatious nature, strikes me as a character who would enjoy the bedroom banter. I think this is something that the devs should take into account when making the decision here.

As for my personal opinion on this, I enjoy either. I've enjoyed this game as it is thus far, but I also enjoy other games that have plenty of dialogue and descriptive text during the sex scenes. I'm really not that particular on this issue, as long as a game is well made. Seeing as this isn't just some half-hearted, half-assed money grab, that the quality of work shows through with all the time and effort that you've put into it, and the dedication that you show by gathering feedback, your fans and supporters will probably love the game, no matter which direction you ultimately sway on this issue.

 

[Ilhares]

Moaning during the act isn't silent fuck.

Indeed. Moaning and groaning is fine. Attempting to articulate? WHY AREN'T YOU MORE DISTRACTED?!

 

[TheDevian]

Oh the application process is easy. It'll go like this:

How many ways can you say: "That pussy is so wet!"

How many ways can you say: "That pussy is so tight!"

How many ways can you say: "I love how she sucks my dick!"

How many ways can you say: "That pussy tastes so good!"


The applicant with the most numerous and unique responses wins.

I am kind of torn on this, while I do like something to read during the scenes to some degree, I am in the same boat, it is a place where my skills are lacking thus far... I also hate when the player is aware of what the other NPCs are thinking or doing when they are not around, without some reason for it (like telepathy).
So, maybe just stick to things like moans (dialogue not audio), a few 'mmmmm's, 'oh god's, and so on... You could also throw in a 'like that' or a 'harder' or something as well, some screams are also good in some cases, you don't even need to do it as dialogue, but just narration...
Her screams are so loud that you fear you might wake someone else in the house, or alert the neighbors... something like that.
Her moaning lets you know you are definitely in the right area...

Spoiler: As for his thought process...

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