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lnomsim

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I know but i prefer 3d daz render instead of AI .
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You don't live in my head, I wasn't answering to you (notice the lack of quote), I was just giving my opinion on the demo.

I think we all got that you prefer DAZ games, you made it quite clear, the very first page of the game is just about you and your tastes, that's great, but move on, it's not a DAZ game, cope with it.
 

Bullyoukos

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The advantages of using AI-generated images (sorry, it's not "Art"), including speed, accessibility and cost, far outweigh the disadvantages, including same-ness (can be mitigated) and a nebulous imaginary feeling of morality.

It's not the place to have a discussion about it, but the reality is that we're already playing AI-assisted games without realizing. Whether in code, sound, voice, images or some detail no one can spot.
 

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The premise of the story is that a university expedition of speleology students, led by a professor, heads out to investigate an interesting cave…
And then a collapse happens. Jenny ends up cut off from the main group, trapped alone in an unexplored section of the cave.
Well… alone. Almost alone. Or not alone at all.​

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that its a good game point and click and female hero
 

maverih345456

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The advantages of using AI-generated images (sorry, it's not "Art"), including speed, accessibility and cost, far outweigh the disadvantages, including same-ness (can be mitigated) and a nebulous imaginary feeling of morality.

It's not the place to have a discussion about it, but the reality is that we're already playing AI-assisted games without realizing. Whether in code, sound, voice, images or some detail no one can spot.
Well it maybe Ai-assisted but i think I prefer things made by humans , still i wonder when the developer will get my response if daz 3d should be used instead of AI images otherwise someone (or myself if i know 3d daz software ) will remake the game but with 3d.
 

man from icecream van

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I would support your game man from icecream van if there is no AI images, i suggest maybe Daz 3d or honey select
If you want truly high-quality renders in DAZ, you either have to create them yourself or pay for custom assets.
A game made in DAZ using only standard store assets isn't really interesting to most players anymore.
AI art has its advantages and has a strong appeal to the audience.
Plus, I personally enjoy working with it as a developer.
Right now I don't feel like dealing with 3D models, and I'm not sure I could attract a new audience without losing the people who already support me.


Occasionally you see new hybrid games on the forums that use both 3D and AI.
But with that approach there's a real risk of ending up with the weaknesses of both pipelines.


By the way, I'll tell you a little secret.
Some developers of top-tier 3DCG novels have quietly started using AI (of course they don't put that in their tags) -especially for animations.
So when you play your favorite 3DCG game... watch your back.
AI might be closer than you think :)
 

man from icecream van

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There are many different assets available for Daz3d. What other non-standard assets are needed to satisfy "most players"? But most players should be satisfied with these copy-paste scenes in 99% of AI games, where the girl and the faceless dick.
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I’m not going to argue about whether AI or 3D is better.
There’s simply the concept of a target audience.
AI art is in demand, AI is still trending, and there aren’t many AI games.
I can’t elbow my way through the crowd of 3DCG games, trying to grab the tiny scraps of attention that fall from the table where 8,500 3DCG titles are already scrambling like mice.
There are only about 1,500 AI games here.

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maverih345456

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If you want truly high-quality renders in DAZ, you either have to create them yourself or pay for custom assets.
A game made in DAZ using only standard store assets isn't really interesting to most players anymore.
AI art has its advantages and has a strong appeal to the audience.
Plus, I personally enjoy working with it as a developer.
Right now I don't feel like dealing with 3D models, and I'm not sure I could attract a new audience without losing the people who already support me.


Occasionally you see new hybrid games on the forums that use both 3D and AI.
But with that approach there's a real risk of ending up with the weaknesses of both pipelines.


By the way, I'll tell you a little secret.
Some developers of top-tier 3DCG novels have quietly started using AI (of course they don't put that in their tags) -especially for animations.
So when you play your favorite 3DCG game... watch your back.
AI might be closer than you think :)


Hmm, well then one question why most people like you prefer AI rather than handmade illustrations or 3d, is it because its cheap, well most people criticize AI art because it makes errors, it maybe quite cheap and quick but in reality It's nothing but pieces from different artworks combine into one major images.

AI can be used to gather records and details and pick some best options to read and help us draw not to have them draw art or write stories by itself , they are just pieces based on peoples opinions

And frankly i prefer games , movies and even comics made by human hands 90% humans with little ai and not games with 100% ai and freemium mobile games who only use ads to win.

So while you and others are on the side of AI which are in reality just some pieces from art materials ,i will be on the side of those who make games with mostly 3d models and perhaps illustrations if cheap, and if i collaborate with someone and if there are cheap profit or know how ot make a game , maybe i will make one simialr to this one but without ai art.


I’m not going to argue about whether AI or 3D is better.
There’s simply the concept of a target audience.
AI art is in demand, AI is still trending, and there aren’t many AI games.
I can’t elbow my way through the crowd of 3DCG games, trying to grab the tiny scraps of attention that fall from the table where 8,500 3DCG titles are already scrambling like mice.
There are only about 1,500 AI games here.

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Thats why i filter out AI from the search.
 

R1k0

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I’m not going to argue about whether AI or 3D is better.
There’s simply the concept of a target audience.
AI art is in demand, AI is still trending, and there aren’t many AI games.
I can’t elbow my way through the crowd of 3DCG games, trying to grab the tiny scraps of attention that fall from the table where 8,500 3DCG titles are already scrambling like mice.
There are only about 1,500 AI games here.

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Haha, you got me.
But AI is a step backward; it cannot create scenes with two or more consistent characters. That's why Photoshop is necessary here. You can't create complex scenes like in Daz3d. And it doesn't seem like Stable Diffusion is developing; it's the same as it was two years ago. AI animation is a different story. But I'm not against AI; it doesn't matter how it's done, the main thing is the result.
 

maverih345456

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Haha, you got me.
But AI is a step backward; it cannot create scenes with two or more consistent characters. That's why Photoshop is necessary here. You can't create complex scenes like in Daz3d. And it doesn't seem like Stable Diffusion is developing; it's the same as it was two years ago. AI animation is a different story. But I'm not against AI; it doesn't matter how it's done, the main thing is the result.

Thats what i was thinking the same thing, sure AI will be useful to gather knowledge and info and will be useful for a tool if with accuracy but not to make images,art and movies and not to takeover people's jobs especially not to have poor AI images aka AI slop.

Also R1k0 , if you make a game similar to the premise of the duchess of the underdeeps maybe it will have nudity only with no clothing but with Daz3d, different 3d or any human illustration art but no AI art images.
 

Laughingfox

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Hrm. I read that as 'Duchess of the Undercheeks'. After viewing the art, I'm not entirely sure I'm wrong. The setting looks fun, though as others mentioned it's sort of a blink and you missed it amount of content.

Are we limited to tentacles or will our hapless heroine get plundered from other beasts and monsters from the subterranean down under?
 

lnomsim

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Hmm, well then one question why most people like you prefer AI rather than handmade illustrations or 3d, is it because its cheap, well most people criticize AI art because it makes errors, it maybe quite cheap and quick but in reality It's nothing but pieces from different artworks combine into one major images.

AI can be used to gather records and details and pick some best options to read and help us draw not to have them draw art or write stories by itself , they are just pieces based on peoples opinions

And frankly i prefer games , movies and even comics made by human hands 90% humans with little ai and not games with 100% ai and freemium mobile games who only use ads to win.

So while you and others are on the side of AI which are in reality just some pieces from art materials ,i will be on the side of those who make games with mostly 3d models and perhaps illustrations if cheap, and if i collaborate with someone and if there are cheap profit or know how ot make a game , maybe i will make one simialr to this one but without ai art.




Thats why i filter out AI from the search.
I can answer that.

Whatmatters is the quality of content (storytelling, writting, gameplay, atmosphere, renders, etc...)

As you can see, render is only part of it. Believe it or not, a lot of people still read books without images in them. When I play PNP roleplay games, most of our sessions online don't have anything other than a flat map.

Here, the renders look good, so personally, i don't care if it's ai, the writing, even if it's a little too soon to judge seems ok, even good.

But I pay some DAZ game where renders are really beautiful, I play hand drawn games where the art is good.

It's not that i prefer AI over realistic 3D, it's just that i take what i get. People make games, write stories, film movies, mainly because they want to share a story (or sell a product), as a consumer, you can only get what is offered to you.

If you don't like AI games, play something else, plenty of fishes in the sea. How often do you see people on space games asking for the ability to pilot a submarine? How often in a racing game do you see people asking for the ability to have a social sim farm gameplay? See where I'm going.

I have played games that lookes extremely ugly, as if the artist just left kindergarten, sometimes it's because the artist lacks talent, sometimes it's because that's what they want to depict. But as long as the other aspects of the game are good enough, I won't focus on the visual quality.

On the other hand, games with a very good visual quality, but poor gameplay/story/whatever, are just not good games.
 

maverih345456

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Believe it or not, a lot of people still read books without images in them. When I play PNP roleplay games, most of our sessions online don't have anything other than a flat map.
That might be true, most of us read books with or without illustrations, we can imagine the scenario without illustations when we read, even i read things for Wikipedia

and eventhough i am not interested in some html games without any pictures or illustrations, at least it will be left to the imagination to those who imagine.

If you don't like AI games, play something else, plenty of fishes in the sea. How often do you see people on space games asking for the ability to pilot a submarine? How often in a racing game do you see people asking for the ability to have a social sim farm gameplay? See where I'm going.
Thats true, although any game will not have the similar premise liek this especially if the character is naked (especially when i am fond of nudity) but the reason iprefer non-ai games, is that Ai art has gone controversial as it makes errors, with low poor quality that they were nicknamed AI slop and expert artist even well-known artist criticize the use of AI, whcih is why i prefer non-AI illustrated games because they are human despite some flaws or not.

And while you and even the developer might try AI, I think someday AI art should no longer be used as it will be only use to gather knowledge ,record details and even show human made pictures not to create their own stories and art. And sometimes can be used to help others for their work, if a law was made one day.

So perhaps while i am interested in the plot especially when the female character is naked, i hope it will be remade with Daz 3d, a different 3d or an illustration instead of AI art , so i may support that version and i hope that version will happen someday but for now i will check out each version of the game but i will not support the AI version of that game , unless a different one with daz 3d or any 3d or a human made artwork is made.
 
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Guess the main character:
Personally I think it's the guy with the blue backpack and definitely not the only person not wearing a safety hard hat with quirky purple hair.