HTML Dune – Breeding a Dynasty [v0.2.1] [lmno]

[lmno]

What is the reasoning for Daz? If it's about work flow or ethics, then sure. But I wonder if it will be an improvement in terms of anesthetics. You picked a good style for the Ai that fits a text based game. It has that illustration vibe to it. If it's gonna be mostly floating sprites anyways, I'd much rather look at a cool 2d sprite that fits a dune vibe than some Daz model we've seen a thousand times.

But I hope it works out for you.

Main reasons are:

• AI model we used was already pushed to the absolute limit to generate some of the images we had even in chapter 1 (loads of photoshop trickery was used to get images to even vaguely look nice)
• We hit limits on being unable to create the images we wanted due to the AI being confused as to what we wanted to depict, which is why there are significantly less images in chapter two part one
• Personally I was starting to get very frustrated with using AI and wanted to move away from using it
• There are plenty of people that were actually turned away from the game because we used AI art rather than anything else

Daz allows us to:

• make people look like whatever we want
• dress people however we want
• pose people in any way we want
• frame scenes with the "camera" in any style/method
• light scenes in specific ways, make use of reflections, etc

I get why some of you may be catious about our decision to switch seeing as there are countless low quality Daz3D games out there but we intend to put the same amount of effort that we used for the AI art into making Daz3D renders. I hope that clears some stuff up!

Stay tuned as we should have another dev blog update coming soon!

 

[Haight]

I'm seeing good stuff so far.


If I had a suggestion, it would be to cook up a few lewd gens for each sex scene; really take advantage of the image generation.

EDIT: Oh wait, you're changing from AI pics *to* 3d images. I see. I approve.

 

[Haight]

Yeah, I don't think we are going to change her breast size as our team think it suits her as they are now. (And who doesn't like some mommy milkers )

Could you go bigger tho?

 

[slick97]

Main reasons are:

• AI model we used was already pushed to the absolute limit to generate some of the images we had even in chapter 1 (loads of photoshop trickery was used to get images to even vaguely look nice)
• We hit limits on being unable to create the images we wanted due to the AI being confused as to what we wanted to depict, which is why there are significantly less images in chapter two part one
• Personally I was starting to get very frustrated with using AI and wanted to move away from using it
• There are plenty of people that were actually turned away from the game because we used AI art rather than anything else

Daz allows us to:

• make people look like whatever we want
• dress people however we want
• pose people in any way we want
• frame scenes with the "camera" in any style/method
• light scenes in specific ways, make use of reflections, etc

I get why some of you may be catious about our decision to switch seeing as there are countless low quality Daz3D games out there but we intend to put the same amount of effort that we used for the AI art into making Daz3D renders. I hope that clears some stuff up!

Stay tuned as we should have another dev blog update coming soon!

I think this is the first instance I've seen of a developer shifting away from using AI tools (which I personally see the switch to Daz a positive). The issue players face is that of limited knowledge on the level of effort any tool requires to produce content, which is why artists are highly valued in the industry whether it be for concept art or 3D modeling.

And just to add my two cents... The Daz models you guys showed for House Atreides look better than their AI counterparts.

 

[desmosome]

Main reasons are:

• AI model we used was already pushed to the absolute limit to generate some of the images we had even in chapter 1 (loads of photoshop trickery was used to get images to even vaguely look nice)
• We hit limits on being unable to create the images we wanted due to the AI being confused as to what we wanted to depict, which is why there are significantly less images in chapter two part one
• Personally I was starting to get very frustrated with using AI and wanted to move away from using it
• There are plenty of people that were actually turned away from the game because we used AI art rather than anything else

Daz allows us to:

• make people look like whatever we want
• dress people however we want
• pose people in any way we want
• frame scenes with the "camera" in any style/method
• light scenes in specific ways, make use of reflections, etc

I get why some of you may be catious about our decision to switch seeing as there are countless low quality Daz3D games out there but we intend to put the same amount of effort that we used for the AI art into making Daz3D renders. I hope that clears some stuff up!

Stay tuned as we should have another dev blog update coming soon!

I just looked at the preview Daz renders a few pages back.

Tbh, it's better than what I feared, but it's certainly a downgrade in terms of character uniqueness and how well they evoke the original characters we have in our minds. The balloon tits are a plague on Daz and I don't know why devs always go for it. It looks horrible especially with clothing fitted on it.

That said, the only reason people might be against the change in the first place is because the artist created something very cohesive and appropriate for the IP. And that is no easy feat. If it was some jank Ai pics, I don't think anyone would really mind a shift to Daz.

People think Ai art is some shit you just enter prompts in and get some art delivered, but that's if you just want random pics. Getting something specific is incredibly time consuming, especially if you have to adhere to the character's established aesthetics for the project.

So... I understand lol. Good luck.

 

[Haight]

Suggestion: Paul gets blue & glowing cum in addition to his blue eyes when he assumes his position as Muad'dib.

 

[Finuee]

Suggestion: Paul gets blue & glowing cum in addition to his blue eyes when he assumes his position as Muad'dib.

Now that's interesting. Hard to tell if it'll look alright, as it can easily stop looking like cum for the audience. But an interesting idea nonetheless.

 

[dangerdan]

great game lads looking forward to the future of this

 

[Finuee]

great game lads looking forward to the future of this

Thanks a lot! We're working hard on Chapter 2 part 2, as well as the switch from AI to Daz.

 

[The Shining 'Finger']

Having no Alia is a big shame. But understandable due to the rules of this site.

 

[lmno]

Having no Alia is a big shame. But understandable due to the rules of this site.

Alia will be in the game

 

[reynold.biplane]

Could you go bigger tho?

We could, but should we?

Also, how big?

I think this is the first instance I've seen of a developer shifting away from using AI tools (which I personally see the switch to Daz a positive). The issue players face is that of limited knowledge on the level of effort any tool requires to produce content, which is why artists are highly valued in the industry whether it be for concept art or 3D modeling.

And just to add my two cents... The Daz models you guys showed for House Atreides look better than their AI counterparts.

I believe that we won't be the last to drop AI, unless it improves significantly in the near future. IMO, there's only three paths when making a game with AICG. Either
1. Severely curb your ambition.
2. Be able to edit *really* well, and maybe have some drawing skill too.
3. Stop using AI and learn to use other tools or make a text-only game.
well, or
4. Be disappointed and frustrated and abandon the game.
which I believe will happen to most AICG games on F95.

Suggestion: Paul gets blue & glowing cum in addition to his blue eyes when he assumes his position as Muad'dib.

Ibad jizz? You have played Behind the Dune, right?

Having no Alia is a big shame. But understandable due to the rules of this site.

She just hasn't been born yet.

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[Haight]

We could, but should we?

Also, how big?

Breast growth is also a kink, and it can be less of a matter of how big she gets, and more the fact that she's growing. Especially if she's growing *for* Paul - very kinky to think that she's altering her body with her Bene Gesserit powers to make her incestuous lover happy. Or if Paul uses the Voice to *make* her do it. Also, once her son assumes the throne, growing bigger than the Reverend Mother to show her authority over her would be apropos.

I'd probably like tits that are big enough that Daz wouldn't work right, but that's not for everybody. I think breast growth kink is something a lot of people might enjoy though.

Ibad jizz? You have played Behind the Dune, right?

I have, but I wasn't really thinking about that. If his bodily fluids contain spice, it'd be fun if the spice-addicted women in his life couldn't get enough of it. Miss me with the watersports though.

 

[billyjoebobmartin]

Also, once her son assumes the throne, growing bigger than the Reverend Mother to show her authority over her would be apropos.

that's a funny idea.

I'd probably like tits that are big enough that Daz wouldn't work right, but that's not for everybody. I think breast growth kink is something a lot of people might enjoy though.

as long as it's optional if it goes growth fetish route. otherwise i'd say 1 cup size or so due to pregnancy and breastfeeding would be pretty normal.

 

[Haight]

as long as it's optional if it goes growth fetish route. otherwise i'd say 1 cup size or so due to pregnancy and breastfeeding would be pretty normal.

Given they're switching to 3d models, it might be possible to make it optional. But still a lot of work.

 

[reynold.biplane]

Breast growth is also a kink, and it can be less of a matter of how big she gets, and more the fact that she's growing. Especially if she's growing *for* Paul - very kinky to think that she's altering her body with her Bene Gesserit powers to make her incestuous lover happy. Or if Paul uses the Voice to *make* her do it. Also, once her son assumes the throne, growing bigger than the Reverend Mother to show her authority over her would be apropos.

I've been thinking about this myself, actually. It would make sense in this game. The player will have the ability to ask women in this game to change outfits. Similarly, Bene Gesserit or Jessica specifically could be asked to grow (or shrink ) their boobs. It just wouldn't take effect immediately and would take at least a few ingame days. It also wouldn't be out of character for Paul to ask his mother such a thing either I think. The problem would be the need to create alternative renders not just for sprites but for every subsequent sex scene too. Unless the breast expansion thing wasn't optional, but I wouldn't like that either. With alternative outfits, this isn't such a big issue. Characters in sex scenes can be depicted as already naked most of the time. Granted, with Daz this is infinitely more simple than with AI, but it still adds a lot of work. And that's just the visual side of things. There would also need to be a lot of alternative text.
Perhaps we could do breast expansion as endgame content. Then it would only impact a few scenes.

I'd probably like tits that are big enough that Daz wouldn't work right, but that's not for everybody. I think breast growth kink is something a lot of people might enjoy though.

There is still a good bit of room for growth without the breasts starting to look bad, in my opinion. We have already encountered some issues with clothing not behaving correctly with those large boobs (specifically the Reverend Mother's robe just didn't want to stay closed around her large chest), but so far everything could be worked out / worked around.

that's a funny idea.

as long as it's optional if it goes growth fetish route. otherwise i'd say 1 cup size or so due to pregnancy and breastfeeding would be pretty normal.

Sure, temporary breast growth due to pregnancy would absolutely make sense, and I see no reason not to do that.

I have, but I wasn't really thinking about that. If his bodily fluids contain spice, it'd be fun if the spice-addicted women in his life couldn't get enough of it. Miss me with the watersports though.

Why do so few people around here like watersports? F95 is a strange place
(there won't be any, so don't worry)

 

[Haight]

Why do so few people around here like watersports? F95 is a strange place
(there won't be any, so don't worry)

Is that a thing you enjoy? Then I say put it in, though you could make it skippable for the crowd's sake. It's going to be a lot less offputting than, say, NTR lol.

Reason I bring it up is it was in Behind the Dune.

 

[Finuee]

Is that a thing you enjoy? Then I say put it in, though you could make it skippable for the crowd's sake. It's going to be a lot less offputting than, say, NTR lol.

Reason I bring it up is it was in Behind the Dune.

Ah, yes, that's true. I had forgotten it was in there. That one scene about "sharing his water". Not my thing, but I did get a laugh out of the concept.

 

[dangerdan]

Thanks a lot! We're working hard on Chapter 2 part 2, as well as the switch from AI to Daz.

If you're consistent with release I would happily pledge money monthly I love dune and I love gooning

 

[Finuee]

If you're consistent with release I would happily pledge money monthly I love dune and I love gooning

Sadly, releases are very slow and not on a consistent schedule, as this is just a personal project for us, that we work on on the side of our respective jobs. That's why we're not even considering setting up any kind of Patreon or SubscribeStar.