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The issue with the outfit isn't in its color or textures but its design - it is very loose and looks like a bath- or a night robe loosely wrapped around her naked body, like she just woke up and threw it on herself with little care. The same can be said about her hair - it's not messy, but it's a very simple design. I might be wrong, but to me it looks like you guys have been trying to recreate the Balsamique design for her:
which is understandable (it's a great design), but as you can see, his design, while having a similar general look, definitely looks more sophisticated and formal, due to it being tight-fitted, having golden ornamentation etc. The hood definitely helps as well.
The thing with mommy Helen is that she's both a lady of the court and a high-ranking sorta nun (of a pseudo-religious order that dedicates itself to intrigues and whoring around in the name of power), which calls for her formal dress (and hairstyle) to convey her powerful status. Balsamique's design and designs in all screen adaptations do show that, IMHO:
This bitch is bad news and she should look the part - which should make defeating her plans and fucking her all the more sweet for Paul and the player. I would say that your AI rendition of her did fit this consideration better than the DAZ one.
With all that in mind I'd propose for you guys to use her current dress/hair combo as her informal dress, and to make another combo for formal occasions.
The hair should look carefully styled (with the help of some maids), like in her default look:
A hood or a hat would certainly help. May be some long cape on her back, combined with the hood.
The gloves she currently wears look fitting and should stay, IMHO.
As for the dress itself,
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looks almost ideal:
But with a big "if" - if you guys can enlarge the cleavage so much that it would be clear that under that cape her tits are bare. Ideally that cleavage should go down to her pubic area, like in Balsamique design. Here's a crude mockup:
Unfortunately I have no idea if that is possible in DAZ. May be it can be set as a 100% transparency area of the texture?
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You're not wrong about the similarity with Balsamique's design. When I started writing the fanfic it was basically just supposed to be like "BtD but longer and more detailed". And that was also the time when I cosidered the functionality of her dress. And I determined that a robe like that allows her to show as much booba as she needs at any given time. Perfect for her character. When she's doing official business and needs to look respectable, she can wrap the robe tightly around her, showing little more than her neck. But when she wants to beguile someone, all she needs to do is loosen the robe and let her titties almost spill out (It took us a long-ass time to find a robe that could actually do that instead of being permanently closed or completely open. Her big boobs made it really difficult).
Like I said, I think the preview pic "swallowed" a lot of the detail of her dress. I don't think it looks like a simple bath robe at all.
Here's the current iteration of her sprite, so you can see it better:
Now you may be right about her hair/lack of a hood. But I feel the rest is totally fine.
This game is really nuts, one of the best games I've played on this site. On par with and in some ways even better than behind the dune. Only complaint is that there is not enough of it, a lot of it is perfect.
Like other people, not a fan of the future Daz3D move at all. Usually AI art looks very mediocre in games, but this is one of the only games I've seen where the AI art is pretty much done perfect and it's clear you guys put a lot of time and love into it.
It sounds weird for me to say this, but it would be pretty upsetting to see you guys move on from the current art style to Daz.
Otherwise I'm pretty excited to see where this will end up in a few years. I'd like to mod it sometime in the future, add some cool features. Particularly a feature that procedurally generates NPCs with image support like what I'm doing for the game I'm currently developing.
Like other people, not a fan of the future Daz3D move at all. Usually AI art looks very mediocre in games, but this is one of the only games I've seen where the AI art is pretty much done perfect and it's clear you guys put a lot of time and love into it.
It sounds weird for me to say this, but it would be pretty upsetting to see you guys move on from the current art style to Daz.
Otherwise I'm pretty excited to see where this will end up in a few years. I'd like to mod it sometime in the future, add some cool features. Particularly a feature that procedurally generates NPCs with image support like what I'm doing for the game I'm currently developing.
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I think I can speak for the three of us when I say I'm extremely happy that you like it so much! Most of the AI merit goes to lmno , who is the master of prompts. Also the fact you want to get into modding the game make as me feel humbled, and proud that you like it so much! Can't wait to see what you do with it!!
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The AI was incredibly limiting as to what we wanted to show (as well as some loose legality regarding AI content in general). You may notice the decline in the number of images between Ch1 and Ch2p1 as we weren't able to get any of the images to generate to our standard, which was incredibly frustrating.
Although moving to daz3d may remove some of the artistic nature of some of the images, it allows us to do and show more, which should benefit everyone.
Out of interest, what in particular about the Daz3D designs to you not like?
Yeah I’ve been using AI the past 4 months and AI can be very limiting. I managed to get passed the posing problem by using base daz models to serve as reference images for specific poses, it works very well and has near 1 to 1 pose accuracy. Though I think the only way you can really create accurate faces is if you create a lora or modify the pictures manually with photoshop so I see where you guys are coming from there.
As far as the daz models go, they really don’t do natural big breasts well imo. And the natural big breasts just look way better on the female characters in 2D, to me. On top of the fact that I just much prefer 2D characters for 2D games and 3D characters for 3D games, with some exceptions.
If you don’t mind, I’d really like to know which checkpoint and lora you’re using for the characters, though I understand if you’d rather keep it to yourself else other people start generating similar stuff to you
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It was a custom one I made from merging several checkpoints together, I'll let you know when I can find it again.
Nice, I’d love to use it to create the mod! I'll see if I can get a similar art style using pony. From what I've seen pony checkpoints tend to do nsfw very well.
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Cool. I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with. I'm really curious about the procedurally generated NPCs. Care to elaborate on that?
Yeah me too.
The AI was just way too limiting in a variety of ways. The technology would have to improve a lot for us to even consider going back. Maybe some day we will be able to just feed our Daz renders to an AI and get a perfect copy in a 2d style of our choice, without having to tinker for days.
Here's the progress made so far:
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I had to switch focus to my own game (need money lol) but I'll return to it later. The main files are CC Male and CC Female. They show the base character configurations with around 50 configurations I think, at least for the female. The female has 5 different breast sizes, wider hips, 2 skin colors, 6 eye shapes, 7 eye colors, 7 outfits (breast sizes not configured yet), 10 hairstyles and 4 hair colors. I haven't really started the male yet but all the files to set up male are already included, I just have to photoshop them. The fingers and some of the clothing and hairstyles need polishing.
The 2D Character Creation.html is the code that would in the future allow character editing/creation/generation.
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Wow, I want to have a closer look at that, but you seem to have done tons of work there!
Yeah I hope I can get back to finishing it soon. The idea is that there will be an infinite game loop in terms of content so people don't have to wait a month or two for updates. Kind of like the original game except there is always new fremen girls & guys to meet, always new harkonnen girls/guys to meet, always new girls at the brothel to meet, and people in the city to meet as well.
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Yeah and would allow the player to customize himself/any character
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