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i am thoroughly convinced that all renpy game devs have top secret contracts with mouse manufacturers, that's why they put so many mini-games and make sandbox games so you end up having to get a new mouse cuz you wore out the buttons.....
Yeah I'm overall tired of that tag whenever i see it. They ain't even sandbox games, most just involve dealing with arbitrary clockwork and calendars tiered events, randomly clicking everywhere, time-wasting mechanics going through rooms at even set times or after some events. And of course every devs using those mechanics will defend themselves with "don't worry mine is just fun and really core to the game, and there is no grind involved"... they all say that, and most are lying, either to us or themselves as well.
 
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Yeah I'm overall tired of that tag whenever i see it. They ain't even sandbox games, most just involve dealing with arbitrary clockwork and calendars tiered events, randomly clicking everywhere, time-wasting mechanics going through rooms at even set times or after some events. And of course every devs using those mechanics will defend themselves with "don't worry mine is just fun and really core to the game, and there is no grind involved"... they all say that, and most are lying, either to us or themselves as well.
In defense of our "sandbox", it's quite literally just a little puzzle you have to solve. We are well aware of how some sandbox games force a whole "grind to play", however ours is literally just a few mini-games you gotta play in order to advance. Or else this wouldn't be much of an escape-room kind of game
 

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Hi, Im here to complain about not being able to get my muscle mommy. Although I like it more when the MC is dominating the muscle mommy. I hope the lesbian stuff will be optional or just with the MC present. Anyways, I actually enjoyed the game so far but I did use the walkthrough to skip the tedious stuff. Also Yuki is the best girl and I look forward to the content with her the most. One thing I dont like is the explaination of the MC's power is bad. From what I understand, everyone around you is more powerful and your power is just to summon them to fight for you. This power is simply lame af. To me everyone else is OP and the MC just summons them to fight. If the MC himself gets powerful with each bond then thats cool, otherwise our MC is just a weak man relying on his harem to fight his battles. Besides this I actually do enjoy the girls and scenes. The sandbox is really not a big deal if following the walkthrough.
 

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In defense of our "sandbox", it's quite literally just a little puzzle you have to solve. We are well aware of how some sandbox games force a whole "grind to play", however ours is literally just a few mini-games you gotta play in order to advance. Or else this wouldn't be much of an escape-room kind of game
You cant please everybody. haters gonna hate, complainer gonna complain. so forth.
Some like mini games and puzzles and some don't. cant really do much about that.
If your game involves having puzzles, stick with your guns. Don't lets people tell you otherwise.
They can make their own game if they hate puzzles so much. :p

Ofc there is always room for improvements regarding puzzles.. provide clear hints etc.
better hint system. ie. after N failed attempts give more clues and so on.
 
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Hi, Im here to complain about not being able to get my muscle mommy. Although I like it more when the MC is dominating the muscle mommy. I hope the lesbian stuff will be optional or just with the MC present. Anyways, I actually enjoyed the game so far but I did use the walkthrough to skip the tedious stuff. Also Yuki is the best girl and I look forward to the content with her the most. One thing I dont like is the explaination of the MC's power is bad. From what I understand, everyone around you is more powerful and your power is just to summon them to fight for you. This power is simply lame af. To me everyone else is OP and the MC just summons them to fight. If the MC himself gets powerful with each bond then thats cool, otherwise our MC is just a weak man relying on his harem to fight his battles. Besides this I actually do enjoy the girls and scenes. The sandbox is really not a big deal if following the walkthrough.
Hey, F here, first things first, we are really sorry B, the splendid writer didn't want to give us (me included, I mean who doesn't want his muscle mommy) but I promise you we will make it up for ya :)) Glad to hear the walktrough helped. About the MC power, it will develop more with the story. Anyways, glad to hear you enjoyed Eden, and we promise to keep improving the game chapter by chapter!

PD: YUKI IS BEST GIRL I AGREE.
 
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You cant please everybody. haters gonna hate, complainer gonna complain. so forth.
Some like mini games and puzzles and some don't. cant really do much about that.
If your game involves having puzzles, stick with your guns. Don't lets people tell you otherwise.
They can make their own game if they hate puzzles so much. :p

Ofc there is always room for improvements regarding puzzles.. provide clear hints etc.
better hint system. ie. after N failed attempts give more clues and so on.
I mean the puzzles in my opinion are not that hard, the clues most of the time are next to the puzzle lol. And even so that's why I've made a walkthrough, so you don't have to do them if you don't want to and just skip to the lore/sex part.

But thanks for the heads up, and as I always say, Eden is gonna get better chapter by chapter, at the end, we are still new into this and learning.
 

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Yeah I'm overall tired of that tag whenever i see it. They ain't even sandbox games, most just involve dealing with arbitrary clockwork and calendars tiered events, randomly clicking everywhere, time-wasting mechanics going through rooms at even set times or after some events. And of course every devs using those mechanics will defend themselves with "don't worry mine is just fun and really core to the game, and there is no grind involved"... they all say that, and most are lying, either to us or themselves as well.
haha yea almost no grind to some means you have to grind for at least 6 months before you can even think of kissing!
of course there will be tons of peeping inbetween... but does that make it better? also another thing devs do, no more events for the character, but no message or anything, they just disappear. WHY?!? btw i am not ragging on the devs of any game, just some mechanics i don't like... i might be able to write a story, but the rest, renpy, daz, etc nah i can't..
so keep doing what you do, just pay some attention to us who want the game to be better....
ie: it doesn't have to be a total fuckfest, tho that never hurts haha
 
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Shhh. That's something private hehe.
That's why we added the hover effect on interactionables items tho, to prevent players from spam clicking and destroying their mouse. Also the walkthrough gives you all info needed to complete the puzzles.
hahaha i can only laugh.. hahaha pretty good..
 
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So the dev seems to skip those who ask this question so I'd like to ask again if lesbian is avoidable?
I think we already answered that question however, yes, the lesbian scenes will be avoidable, tho we recommend activating them for the best experience and lore immersion.
 

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I think we already answered that question however, yes, the lesbian scenes will be avoidable, tho we recommend activating them for the best experience and lore immersion.
if I understand this correctly with my poor english, the lesbian scenes are ingrained in the story so even if you turn them off, they still happen in the background? because avoidable as far as I remember means they never happen, meaning there will be no lesbians in the story plot wise or mentioned.
 
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if I understand this correctly with my poor english, the lesbian scenes are ingrained in the story so even if you turn them off, they still happen in the background? because avoidable as far as I remember means they never happen, meaning there will be no lesbians in the story plot wise or mentioned.
Yes exactly, even if you turn them off they will still happen in the background, and we do it like that because it's part of the lore. So yeah the scenes can be skipped but they will happen "off-camera".
 

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Yes exactly, even if you turn them off they will still happen in the background, and we do it like that because it's part of the lore. So yeah the scenes can be skipped but they will happen "off-camera".
Then dont go around saying that garbage will be avoidable, if it happens regardless, it is not avoidable

I think we already answered that question however, yes, the lesbian scenes will be avoidable, tho we recommend activating them for the best experience and lore immersion.
Honestly, if that shit is so important for the "lore" then people who hate are not going to play it anyway, even if it is skippable, so you are wasting your time, either make it avoidable or just make it mandatory and make it clear that it is just a focus of the game.
 

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Yes exactly, even if you turn them off they will still happen in the background, and we do it like that because it's part of the lore. So yeah the scenes can be skipped but they will happen "off-camera".
Then don't say it's "avoidable" when it's not.

That is incorrect, and misleading.

so overall the "skip" function is the most useless thing ever cuz most people who don't want any type of content they don't like, do not want to just SKIP. I can just CTRL in that case.. People want to be able to avoid that content, as it don't happen at all. Not in the background.. Apart of the lore, or not.

Oh well yo game, do as you please.. Not for me then tho. But this just a heads up.
 
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