VN Ren'Py Elleria [v1.3.3 - Wheel of Fate] [M.C Games]

[indio68]

Lyria's character is more flawed then you make her to be, she isn't perfect. If anything, she relatively forces these feelings and cultural differences onto main character.

Did he accept? Course he did, cause that's kind of the type he is. But Lyria was very self-centered, focused and selfish in terms of her overall feelings. And she made em a burden for him. But, that's fine, cause that's how it was meant to be and was supposed to be.

And no, as I said. She was initially written for 3rd Elleria to come back. She has an appearance in second one, by my plans anyways.

But she does send occasional letters through the whole thing to Eliot and keeps in touch. So here and there, there's a scene when he reads her letters and what's she's up to, and where she is etcetera.

well.. i think she was better than you describe her...really, seems like you hate her..and she was gorgeous , expecially in her first look, with tattoo and pink hairs....hope she maybe become more understanding regarding The night goddess that is bound with MC , that's for sure...so she can be with her love for ever soon enough.thanks

 

[Mystic]

well.. i think she was better than you describe her...really, seems like you hate her..and she was gorgeous , expecially in her first look, with tattoo and pink hairs....hope she maybe become more understanding regarding The night goddess that is bound with MC , that's for sure...so she can be with her love for ever soon enough.thanks

I don't hate any character I create. I like some more, some less. Yes. But hate? None. Never. And I also dislike playing favorites, if I don't remain neutral in this field, one character would always have more screen time over another. Which... is bad.

Also, if that statement was true I'd ditch her and she'd never be seen again. Or I'd kill her off in 1000 different ways I can conjure in my head.

 

[LaShou23]

The choices are related to how you play the MC and it will shape the world. There is no choices about which girls you will romance and/or have sex with.

Isn't a kinetic novel, by definition, a story with no choices at all?

 

[Mystic]

Isn't a kinetic novel, by definition, a story with no choices at all?

In a dictionary or some such shit anyway. Here? Who's to say, definitions are here whatever the fuck the loudest people want. So, given some very annoying and loud people.

I've slapped a kinetic on it. Cause, apparently, if "hurr durr I can't pick who I fuck and who I don't fuck" means it should be kinetic! So, there we have it. Yes. Its kinetic.

 

[Vortex@]

Naturally. As Eris mentioned, despite it being long time, they're both in good and healthy condition. He just needs to catch up on stuff!

And he's a busy bee, but answer is a resounding YES. Don't worry about it!

So she's back......but not back....sigh lol. Could have said she wasn't going to be a main Li or even stick around

 

[Mystic]

So she's back......but not too stay.....sigh lol. Could have said she wasn't going to be a main Li

What can I say, I like drama. Point is, she comes back, eventually, and then she stays. But till then? She serves the story purpose she serves. And when she makes a return again, she'll serve her purpose as she did before. But, she won't leave.

That's the only and best answer I can give, honestly, this particular topic has been hammered to the death.

 

[MiltonPowers]

Isn't a kinetic novel, by definition, a story with no choices at all?

True, but most people here play for the girls not the story, (well the loudest anyway, if not the most). So, I actually like the honesty of the Dev to put that tag on so people know the girls are forced.

It's a lot better, than some devs that throw in a single choice in the entire game whether to put on your left shoe or right shoe first so they can avoid the Kinetic Tag. I'm exaggerating of course, but fake choices happens far to often just to avoid the tag.

 

[Classy_Turtle]

Getting an error right after the MC accepts the contract from the misterious priestess at the start of the game and finds Lyria sleeping at the Inn.

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
NameError: Name 'P' is not defined.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "01Chapter1.rpyc", line 726, in script
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\ast.py", line 2557, in execute
    Say.execute(self)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\ast.py", line 615, in execute
    renpy.exports.say(who, what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\exports.py", line 1493, in say
    who(what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\character.py", line 1376, in __call__
    what = self.prefix_suffix("what", self.what_prefix, what, self.what_suffix)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\character.py", line 1290, in prefix_suffix
    return (sub(prefix) + sub(body) + sub(suffix))
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\character.py", line 1270, in sub
    return renpy.substitutions.substitute(s, scope=scope, force=force, translate=translate)[0]
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 368, in substitute
    s = interpolate(s, kwargs) # type: ignore
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 86, in interpolate
    raise e
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 78, in interpolate
    value = renpy.python.py_eval(code, {}, scope)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\python.py", line 1209, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\python.py", line 1202, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "<none>", line 1, in <module>
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 310, in __getitem__
    raise NameError("Name '{}' is not defined.".format(key))
NameError: Name 'P' is not defined.

Windows-10-10.0.26100 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.2.0.24012702
Elleria 1.0
Thu Feb  6 21:30:32 2025

 

[sanitarium]

Funny how what one person may find annoying, another finds interesting. I for one am very fond of those philosophical dialogues between MC, the Queen, etc. The flow of the dialogue could be better, more "natural", sure, but the ideas being presented are really thought provoking and insightful.

 

[Narutoxcx]

umm is this game completed?

 

[MiltonPowers]

umm is this game completed?

No. Just Book 1 of Elleria 1.

 

[Mystic]

umm is this game completed?

Book 1 is.

 

[Mystic]

Getting an error right after the MC accepts the contract from the misterious priestess at the start of the game and finds Lyria sleeping at the Inn.

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
NameError: Name 'P' is not defined.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "01Chapter1.rpyc", line 726, in script
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\ast.py", line 2557, in execute
    Say.execute(self)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\ast.py", line 615, in execute
    renpy.exports.say(who, what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\exports.py", line 1493, in say
    who(what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\character.py", line 1376, in __call__
    what = self.prefix_suffix("what", self.what_prefix, what, self.what_suffix)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\character.py", line 1290, in prefix_suffix
    return (sub(prefix) + sub(body) + sub(suffix))
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\character.py", line 1270, in sub
    return renpy.substitutions.substitute(s, scope=scope, force=force, translate=translate)[0]
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 368, in substitute
    s = interpolate(s, kwargs) # type: ignore
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 86, in interpolate
    raise e
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 78, in interpolate
    value = renpy.python.py_eval(code, {}, scope)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\python.py", line 1209, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\python.py", line 1202, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "<none>", line 1, in <module>
  File "C:\Users\hamme\Desktop\elleria-1.0-market\renpy\substitutions.py", line 310, in __getitem__
    raise NameError("Name '{}' is not defined.".format(key))
NameError: Name 'P' is not defined.

Windows-10-10.0.26100 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.2.0.24012702
Elleria 1.0
Thu Feb  6 21:30:32 2025

And that is why I told uploader to calm the fuck down, and I told them to give me time to patch game before they leak it.

As I patched this problem today on Steam. But, hey, don't listen to me.

 

[OnlyFriend]

Switching Protagonists

indeed it was really disappointing

 

[Merlin-Magic]

Switching Protagonists

indeed it was really disappointing

I on the other hand, thought it was inspired. I am no genius for sure, but the reason was not that complicated. And you can always think of it a multitasking .

 

[JJJ84]

Switching Protagonists

indeed it was really disappointing

lol I'm guessing you haven't played any games with multiple protagonists tag?

Not saying I'm necessarily a fan of that tag, but if you're so heavily against that you're gonna miss out on some great games; such as Desert Stalker by ZetanDS.
That game, by having second playable protagonist brought opportunity to explore a lot more of the lore, more characters and new locations which might have been likely limited a bit by its primary protagonist.

Dev is doing the same thing here.

Eliot (MC) can't literally be everywhere.
So places he may not be able to go for whatever reason?
He sends Silas on his behalf.

You may not like it, but for some games, a secondary protagonist may be needed/helpful to flesh out the story and the world more.

 

[duckydoodoo]

lol I'm guessing you haven't played any games with multiple protagonists tag?

Not saying I'm necessarily a fan of that tag, but if you're so heavily against that you're gonna miss out on some great games; such as Desert Stalker by ZetanDS.
That game, by having second playable protagonist brought opportunity to explore a lot more of the lore, more characters and new locations which might have been likely limited a bit by its primary protagonist.

Dev is doing the same thing here.

Eliot (MC) can't literally be everywhere.
So places he may not be able to go for whatever reason?
He sends Silas on his behalf.

You may not like it, but for some games, a secondary protagonist may be needed/helpful to flesh out the story and the world more.

at the same time, game is mostly kinetic, so why give the power of protagonist to silas, when we could just as easily watch the events that happened to silas in a variety of ways that dont relegate him to MC. Considering some of the renders during Silas as MC are third person or bird eye view of Silas himself, it could easily have just been Silas reporting his mission while giving the reader/player visuals. The only reason Silas should be a protagonist is if the player can make Silas make choices against the Main Protags orders and wants. otherwise we are just watching Silas do what he was told to do by the actual protagonist. side characters get chapters and screen time, all the time without being consider protags.

personally i dont care what dev calls him, but if we are being honest about it, for now, the people against it seem to have a point. which only last until silas actually influences game play via choices that actually effect gameplay

 

[JJJ84]

so why give the power of protagonist to silas, when we could just as easily watch the events that happened to silas in a variety of ways that dont relegate him to MC. Considering some of the renders during Silas as MC are third person or bird eye view of Silas himself, it could easily have just been Silas reporting his mission while giving the reader/player visuals.

Oh I dunno, perhaps the dev just wanted to actually show Silas' story fully (with him actually roaming the places he goes to, describing fully what he sees and feels), instead of merely showing highlights/summary like you described in your "reporting mission" method?
Have you actually even thought about that? lol

The only reason Silas should be a protagonist is if the player can make Silas make choices against the Main Protags orders and wants. otherwise we are just watching Silas do what he was told to do by the actual protagonist. side characters get chapters and screen time, all the time without being consider protags.

where are you even getting this so-called "logic" from?
Silas is not a puppet of MC, he's MC's apprentice.

And while Silas believes MC and follows MC's orders, it is actually possible to shape him to take actions that MC may not necessarily take if good choice options are given (such as Zaton & Shani in Desert Stalker who are the primary & secondary protagonist in that game. You can shape Shani to have a bit of opposite morals to Zaton if the player chooses to).

So such a thing is not impossible.
Perhaps Silas may take an action in the future that MC would not take in same situation.

And what even are you referring to with the whole "watching Silas do what he was told to do by the actual protagonist." All MC gave to him in terms of instructions were "Go and spy on Falongor" and merely saying "If you get caught, I can't acknowledge you." (or something along those lines).
MC basically gave no instructions as to how Silas would go about his methods.

personally i dont care what dev calls him, but if we are being honest about it, for now, the people against it seem to have a point. which only last until silas actually influences game play via choices that actually effect gameplay

Disagree, cause I'll say this using example from Desert Stalker once again.
Yes, that game has choices (tons of choices actually), but regardless of how player chooses in terms of actions of secondary Protagonist Shani during her content, even if her actions contradict/go against what players have chosen against her father/mentor Zaton or not, it doesn't influence Zaton's arc as the primary main character, at least in major way.

So in the end, it's gonna depend on how the dev implements choices in the future Silas content.

Honestly, seeing how some folks are upset about this makes it seem like they think Silas is undermining Eliot (Primary MC of Elleria 1) or something, when that's not even the case

 

[duckydoodoo]

where are you even getting this so-called "logic" from?
Silas is not a puppet of MC, he's MC's apprentice.

lol, i dont remember calling Silas a puppet, but you are right he totally is. like all good sycophant apprentices who have zero autonomy and serve as their masters shadow. doing that in the night in which the master can not do during the day. i dont see a hand up his ass, but the main MC is certainly pulling his strings.

logic shmogic

 

[MiltonPowers]

So in the end, it's gonna depend on how the dev implements choices in the future Silas content.

Honestly, seeing how some folks are upset about this makes it seem like they think Silas is undermining Eliot (Primary MC of Elleria 1) or something, when that's not even the case

I'm not really a fan of Multi-protag, as a self-inserter it can get problematic inside my mind, but I'm sure I saw somewhere that Silas will not be interfering with Eliot's LIs (romantically or sexually), so I don't have a problem with following along with Silas for a while and exploring and seeing other things in the world.