The problem with making them optional is that it can increase the number of scenes you have to render exponentially. You either have to render each scene for every combination of girls possible, OR just not include the scene if the player chooses not to have any girl-girl action, which takes away from the total number of scenes available for the non-girl/girl players. There is no perfect solution, so I say the author should just tell the story they want, and if i player doesn't like it, they can go play something else. I do think though that EVERY game dev should make clear, from the initial release, what tags they plan to include, so that people who are adamantly 100% against a certain tag don't get sucked in and then have it forced on them. I personally like the girl/girl stuff, but I still play plenty of games that don't have it. I also play a lot of games that include stuff I'm not overly fond of (futa/TG, NTR, femdom, etc) because the story and/or other scenes make it worth putting up with it.
u should maybe make it will be optional,otherwise they will keep ask u about it.U can by the same occasion make a list of tag not planned.
my question what kind of monster we will have? Some dev exaggerated with ugly demon,creature…
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if I miss not seeing the optional scene I don't like, then it's fine. Rather not see it. I'm fine with 1 less scene
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he said it's avoidable, that means it's your option too skip or not. Optional
not my point after 20-50 pages,people will ask him the same question.
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that means he needs to add the tag on the OP and say it's avoidable.
As mentioned it’s a harem game,hope the thread stays without drama lol
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That's retarded, devs want to make money for their game, this whole " IF yOu dONt liKE iT DonT PlaY" is just reddit lingo for losers or for delusional Hollywood stars that are already rich and don't care if their movie fails.
If making something avoidable will bring in more players/supporters then it is definitely worth doing it, specially when it is something that's not really the main focus of the game. If this was a female protag game with female LI then asking for it to be avoidable would be absolutely retarded, or going to a ntr-focused game and asking for it to be avoidable, because there's barely anything left if you take out those fetishes.
But here lesbianism is not supposed to be the focus, at least from everything we've seen from the game so far, I get there are cucks who want a lesbfest poly relationship instead of a harem, just like there are a lot of people who hate that, but even if that content makes it into the game, it is going to be a small part of it so it shouldn't be an issue to make it avoidable.
A lot of devs do that already since there are more and more people everyday getting annoyed at the retarded "every single woman is lesbian" trope in these games.
Same as with the femdom/golden showers, etc stuff, if a dev adds something like that in a game where it is not the focus, 99% of times they make it avoidable because they know a lot of people don't like that shit, and if he forces it into the players he is just putting off people with a scene that is like 1% of the game, is that worth it? Nah, it would be stupid.
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Not exactly the point I was going for. Lets say you have the option of 3 girls. If I want to make optional scenes covering all of the girls, you have to render the same scene 9 times. Even if there are only 10 renders for the scene (and that's HIGHLY unlikely), and even with a powerhouse PC capable of 5 minutes per render, you just went from just over an hour spent rendering to around 8 hours of render time for that one scene. And that isn't including the time needed to pose, any post work that needs done, etc. I'm not by any means saying never do it, I'm just saying that sometimes, it is unrealistic to expect a dev to make everything optional. In the case above, that's over an 8 hour time investment, for one scene that would have taken 1 hour if not for all of the options. Granted, it's a little extreme,
Yes, devs want to make money for their game, but unless the dev already HAS a shit-ton of money, most have to do things like work a full time job etc on top of making games. Making every little thing optional increases the development time for every scene, often exponentially. And no, it's not reddit lingo, it's how the world works. KFC isn't going to change their recipe because you don't like it. If you don't like it, you go somewhere else. Making every little thing in a game optional on the off chance that someone doesn't like it is what actually kills a lot of these games, because it increases the required work load so much that the dev, who is possibly workling a full time job - plus has a family - doesn't have enough time to EVER finish the game. If a dev is making an adult game just to get money, they chose the wrong field, because most of these games make jack shit overall.
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everything you say is true only when the dev is making alternate scenes for the example you mentioned. all Vortex@ said was that the scene doesnt happen. it is technically "skipped" but it reflects in the story as never have happened ie avoidable.
taking your example, if a player doesnt wish to to follow one of the 3 girls, then he choses "No" and the scenes/path/ whatever, doesnt show and plot wise it never happens. the dev still renders the scene so he cant avoid that, but the player who doesnt want it, doesnt see it and plotwise, it has never happened.
the only thing dev has to keep a mind on is the dialogues. for example if you get the option to either kiss or not a girl, and you chose to not kiss her but four scenes later the dialogue plays as if you kissed her. this is something the dev has to be on top of, if/when they go the road of optional/avoidable.
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" OR just not include the scene if the player chooses not to have any girl-girl action, which takes away from the total number of scenes available for the non-girl/girl players. "
Your words, I commented I'm fine with getting 1 less scene I hate. The point is, a lot of people would gladly have a few less scenes than other people if it's something they hate. It's up to the dev if he feels gung-ho enough to add alternative scenes, if not, no biggie. More options can mean more subscribers. And the 3 girls you mention, if someone chooses no to one, guess what, the dev still has to render those scenes anyhow for the people that did choose her, so he is doing no extra work. The player just chose to avoid those scenes
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Wish if the update was longer,MC fingering Alice and groping her boobs at cinema was good.It sad that lucie caught before he go sleeping,she cock blocked him lol
Which is fine, except that it's not really very likely to BE only one less scene, it's very likely to be multiple lost scenes, depending on how the author intended the story to go. Most people would be a bit upset if they went 2 or 3 updates with only the content they don't like, and therefore skipped, and ended up not getting any content they DID like. You can't make everyone happy, so, as an author/developer you really need to decide what is more important, your wallet or your artistic integrity. Do you try to please the masses, or do you tell your story the way you want to tell it? There has to be some compromise if you expect to make a living at it, but there also have to be limits to how much you compromise or you basically lose any joy in your art.
No, not ONLY in the example i mentioned. Because if they are trying to keep everyone happy, and if, for example, they release an update with nothing but the content you choose not to see, then you basically get no content. So they HAVE to make some alternate content IF they want to keep the people that DON'T want that content happy, thereby increasing the workload.
Again, not saying that some content shouldn't be optional IF THE DEV CHOOSES TO DO IT. But expecting or even demanding they make something be optional just because you don't like it is a different thing altogether.