lop333

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Hi everyone,

I've played through this game just now because I wanted to see a lewd game with elements of horror.

I was actually baffled by how short it felt, and when I've looked through previous comments of this game; people here posted screenshots and solutions to parts of the game that seem to have disappeared from the newest version.

I was also unsure if I might have just played the game wrong, and I tried to repeat it again, but it seems as though there's no more stuff you can see/unlock.


So the game really feels as though it were supposed to be something bigger, there were plenty of paranormal as well as conspiracy involved. The MC seemed to have forgotten events about what happened to his sister and her friend.
But ultimately there are no explanations, and the characters just refuse to provide explanations. The MC's behavior is also never explained as to why he just decides to rape two girls in this game.

Now were this intentional part of the story, where there are no explanations/answers provided, and you have to make do with what you were given to make your own conclusions that would be fine. But the amount of things that the story provides is so bare that it's really hard to derive anything rich or meaningful from it, other than to make huge assumptions on everything which seems like a huge shame.

Were the old versions longer? Is it still possible to get the old version of the game so I could play that instead?

Please let me know
Yes the game used to be less of a visual novel and more of a puzzle game with sex scenes you got to chose.
You would expiriance the story as you explored the town whiel doing work for the restaurant lady.
That version of the game stopped development at some point and author game back with this more visual novel version focused more on story.
So yes it used to be pretty diffrent more of a rpg.

I understand where your disappointment comes from. But rpgm has really gotten to me. When I released v9, I spent an entire weekend testing and it didn't help. There are not just some minor flaws in there, but entire softlocks that break the game to death. And if I try to fix it, something else breaks. And that really pisses me off.

As you correctly pointed out all the variability has been cut out. This was done not only because I didn't have enough time to fill in the variation well, but also because I didn't want the whole game to be broken again.

A couple days ago I had an argument with my older brother about v10. He hasn't played the V10 game, nor any of it's versions, but I briefly described to him what I did. And he got exactly the same reaction as you. Here's what he said: "You think your game belongs to you and you can do whatever you want with it and do as you like, but it's not fucking true, once you put everything on the net, now it belongs to the coomers and doomers and they tend to want the same things but more, not less. Naturally, if I were playing, I'd ask for the old version first and then the one with everything cut out." He's right, I realize that I did wrong, but.... That's how it is.
Its not that deep
Its not just "coomers" and "doomers" its not as harsh as the sentence makes it, people just liked the older version better due to how it was structured with how it was more open, there wasnt much to doom about since the artstyle was great and game just needed more to do.
This version could 100% work as its own thing or even just optional download or option in the orginal version, there was no reason to abandon the whole orginal idea.
I mean its a rpg maker any softlock can be fixed so i dont really see a reason to change a whole game because of that
I mean people love black souls
 

fatefruit

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i wish there was a gallery for this because the art is so unique and different from what we're used to. I hope you are working on a patch for a gallery room, it'd be greatly appreciated. Lovely game.
 
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BlackNightWish

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Is there a walkthrough of the newest version? Or can someone tell me how I get past this valve? It says I cannot open it and I searched the whole building multiple times. At first it was fun, but thats just frustration. nearly 2 hours I am searching now. Please help me. If anyone has the CGs I would also take them at this moment.
 
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chengue

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I apologize for disappointing you. Unfortunately, because of the way my life is going right now, I don't have time to do it right (do some justice to this project I mean). I'm Sorry.

So I had two choices:

-Rewrite the game from scratch. Remove all the bugs (and other stuff :( ) and get a stable experience, albeit not a good one.

-Or spend a few more years working with rpgm and maybe get something at the end (still not very good hihi).

And because rpgm turned out to be a monster trap for a newbie with unclear ambitions (me), as I later discovered. I decided to go with the first option. Rpgmaker is good, you can do G R E A T stuff with it, but it drives me crazy. I'm not a programmer, I'm not an artist, English is not my primary language. And besides the last two problems, the constant compromises with rpgm (cause I don't know js) have affected my overall mood a bit( :mad: ). Sadly, the choice was obvious. And as I wrote earlier. if I'm not going to cut anything then it's too much work to do.

Take the main character's sister, for example. To do her honor I'll have to come up with at least three (I think...) more proper events with her, and most likely, because of the way I write, it still won't be enough. Because of how much time is spent on even the smallest of things (fun information, from v1 to v9 I worked on average 6+ hours a day on the game, huge amount of time, and it doesn't even show lol), I realize that it is, alas, impossible in this situation. EMPTY-66822 is a narrative game (...and there is more to it, but I can't write about it without derailing in some drama story). I mean, it's basically just letters, lots of letters. No game element in the game lol.

And I'm no great writer. I'm no one. Just a sad person.

I apologize deeply for my whining. But unfortunately, my situation can't be described without “whining”.

...Also think I lost the point I was trying to make hihi ^)

Anyway. Thank you. Thanks especially for the v9 walkthrough THAT I LOST SOMEWHERE.
you know you could have use rpg maker vx ace torotro made his game from that old engine and it turn out great i don't know why everyone is so obsessed with using rpg maker mv
 

lop333

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Is there a walkthrough of the newest version? Or can someone tell me how I get past this valve? It says I cannot open it and I searched the whole building multiple times. At first it was fun, but thats just frustration. nearly 2 hours I am searching now. Please help me. If anyone has the CGs I would also take them at this moment.
Its a trap you dont need to open this valve just got progress deeper into the building turn on the water then return to this room click all the valves then the coputer and turn it on
 
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ojae

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Its a trap you dont need to open this valve just got progress deeper into the building turn on the water then return to this room click all the valves then the coputer and turn it on
hey youre still on this site, i loved your game
 

jawaunw1

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After playing this I decided to go over the old version. Honestly they're about equal there's definitely flaws for both but this version improves in a lot of things. The old version of was confusing and very tedious at times. This version is a lot quicker and well you can tell what you need to do more easy.

And a story standpoint though that's where things get a lot harder. The old version was chaotic and Float from piece to piece Without Really any understanding. This version is blindingly fast very much to its detriment but it does improve that the fact that the old version was kind of hard to follow up. I do miss the fact that a lot of the old characters got speed ran through or just were completely missing.

Overall I think the Creator did a fine job I thank them for continuing at the game I really actually liked it.
 
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lop333

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hey youre still on this site, i loved your game
Not sure how genuine that is but thanks wasnt the proudest of it, im working on some cool projects but im stalling for now since one day you are in the mood to make something then the other not so much.
I do love this games art style i do wish this game expanded to be more of a rpg, like black souls or something.
Hope one day the dev makes some kind of rpg in this art style.
 
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Not sure how genuine that is but thanks wasnt the proudest of it, im working on some cool projects but im stalling for now since one day you are in the mood to make something then the other not so much.
I do love this games art style i do wish this game expanded to be more of a rpg, like black souls or something.
Hope one day the dev makes some kind of rpg in this art style.
completely feel you, even if nothing bad has happened recently your mood is still on and off for some reason and it really hurts creative processes
 
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Januar1

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Would it be possible for someone to share one of the older versions of the game here? I just finished v10 and was hoping to compare it to the previous version. I enjoyed both the art and the story this game had to offer, however I’m left bit confused with the latter. Half of the characters were left nameless, and their backgrounds were left unexplored. It felt like a fast forwarded movie: you’re able to infer the main points but all the details are lost in the speed and you can’t come to a fully satisfying conclusion.
 
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Kurotsuno

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played on the newest version and after finishing it somehow the only word staying in my head for now is just "wtf"
 

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Dropped a review after playing through this in an afternoon, Lonery-Moon

Now, I don't really know the full details behind the development of the game, what you removed or what your ambitions truly were coming from the mouth of others. All I know is that it's obvious that you put a lot of passion and effort into it regardless of the end result, you've got talent and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.

But said talent needs to be explored and improved upon to achieve something truly great.
Hope to see it in your next project.
 
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