KingBel

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thanks, but im playing this game from the start, i just cant find that exit
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The entrance to her room would be just left of where she is standing.. but if you are seeing her in the foyer, then you have not waited enough time.. try going to sleep and coming back the next day
 
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The entrance to her room would be just left of where she is standing.. but if you are seeing her in the foyer, then you have not waited enough time.. try going to sleep and coming back the next day
thanks, thats help a lot
 

Dfgjjkl

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That's exactly what I find to be extremely strange - while he certainly makes unique quality game and invests a lot of time and effort into that, but at the same time he can't be arsed to write just a couple of lines of a simple changelog, which in comparison with a game development is a miniscule amount of time and effort. It's especially strange when we take a look at the other adult games at his level - there are mostly some changelogs to every version, that give at least some brief picture of what has been done and added for each new one.

For example I write code as a self-taught software developer - there are always a history of changes that I made in a code throughout one time point to another. And I can always describe (if anyone needed) things that was done during any time period, like:

"Yeah, at this point such functionality was added. And then another one on another day\couple of days\week, and so on. Then there was some refactoring here and there, bugfixes about this and that. "

To aggregate these things in a couple of lines doesn't take much time, geez - just take a look at what you did during a latest time and describe it with a words, lol. Takes less than a 10 minutes. 3D-modelling and animations take days, in comparison with that. So it doesn't really slow anyone down and it's written only once, before a release.

It's just a common sense, to report a summary of results of your work periodically - if you make a product not only for yourself, but also for others and with a commercial incentive, and if you want to attract investments\crowdfunding to your ongoing project. That's why I've written a post above - it's questionable he even cares about his audience and his income, this way. As you said yourself he gets "a shamefully low reward for his work". So I highlighted one of a possible factors that could've caused this.


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Yeah, I'm disappointed that there's no new MS content, especially for Steven but there's a lot of characters and things need to move forward story wise sometimes

When it comes to money, I really think that he should make the updates shorter but make sure they come out each month or 45 days. When you update the game every 3 months it's really hard to build momentum. Yeah, it's the same amount of content either way but I think knowing that you're getting something for your money each month makes a lot of people consider supporting the game
 

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Yeah, I'm disappointed that there's no new MS content, especially for Steven but there's a lot of characters and things need to move forward story wise sometimes

When it comes to money, I really think that he should make the updates shorter but make sure they come out each month or 45 days. When you update the game every 3 months it's really hard to build momentum. Yeah, it's the same amount of content either way but I think knowing that you're getting something for your money each month makes a lot of people consider supporting the game
Considering that testing of each new version normally takes a week and packing & uploading takes 2-3 days, I'd say pushing an update every 3 months is a wise and deliberated decision. It also feels reasonable and natural that each update steadily includes 2 new major sex scenes for each protagonist, which also requires 3 months to complete.
 

apsentibus

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A practice of publishing changelogs is considered useless, as it seems for people in this thread and for developer of the game. Is it really that hard to write a small amount of words, to give a quick general overview of what exactly was added and changed in the newest version?

Downloading ~13 GB of the game and getting quests done for just looking at what is new looks like a hassle and a waste of time, if the newly added content wasn't worth it.

Facts:

1) Not all people have a luxury of having that much time for doing that
2) From a consumer's (of adult content) point of view there's a desire to know what to expect, at least approximately:
- to get what we want in the end
- to not end up unsatisfied after wasting time

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After all, we come here to fap. All other aspects carry supplementary roles, only to enchance a fapping experience. If we wanted to play only, we would've play conventional video games. If we wanted a story only, we would've read a book or watch a movie. To not know what's in the content we download is akin giving people unknown food to eat after they've waited in queue for their turn, without letting them know about what it's made of. Some food is plain and unsatisfying, some food is bad nutrition-wise or health-wise, some food is disgusting for the individual taste and provokes vomiting.

Imagine the frustration of a man that waited long in queue only to end up with something he doesn't even want. That's where a food list options and a food components labels take place! The same story is with a tags and a changelogs... A baker who cares about his audience and his money income would've let people know what's inside the new pie he made. Thus I question whether the baker (game creator) cares about both of these. Because people will stop coming to that certain bakery after they've experienced being fed up pies with unknown content. I dunno, maybe only omnivores who like the thrill of unknown taste and the thrill of finding a scattered pieces of puzzle as a prerequisite of getting their (cream)pies are going to be left as the said baker's market.

But oh well, since there's NTR tag now, I guess I'll leave this thread and this game, lol.
I think Nenad has stopped visiting this F95 thread for quite some time. You could talk to him on his discord channel if you might want him to read these.
 

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I think Nenad has stopped visiting this F95 thread for quite some time.
I can understand why, to reduce the amount of distractions and to focus on his creation. I've made a search query through this thread with a word "changelog". I wasn't the first one and he could've seen people questioning\complaining about this (and not just once) even back at the time when he was still coming here. Still, it's a very strange logic from his side, because even at his patreon page I haven't seen any changelogs in his posts, at the first glance (as a non-subscriber and from what I could've seen as one at the patreon page).


You could talk to him on his discord channel if you might want him to read these.
What doesn't allow him to copy-paste the changelog info from a discord chats to a patreon releases pages then? =D After all, most changelog info on f95 comes from the patreon releases pages. I don't want to join a discord chat from my usual account (need to separate a shadow porn life and a usual daily shit with real-life people) and c.b.a. to make a new one just for this one question. So anyone who wants may copy-paste the arguments I've written and this question, to a discord chat with him.
 
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I've completed everything for Jade.

I've completed all of drake's quests but I can't find the dolls (I found vanessa's bronze doll) I think the others might be Alison and Kiera but I can't see them anywhere.

Freya/Cain I think I've completed all the quests but as Virginity remains white and doesn't show any info what-so-ever I can't be sure. I am however missing one of the sweet memories (I've got the Freya/Harper scene) unless it's the Freya/Cain flashback in which case there is a bug as it doesn't show up in Sweet Memories.

Edit: I've now got kiera's and alison's gold dolls (the spreadsheet has been updated) but I'm still missing 2 dolls - anyone know who and where they might be?
 
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I've completed everything for Jade.

I've completed all of drake's quests but I can't find the dolls (I found vanessa's bronze doll) I think the others might be Alison and Kiera but I can't see them anywhere.

Freya/Cain I think I've completed all the quests but as Virginity remains white and doesn't show any info what-so-ever I can't be sure. I am however missing one of the sweet memories (I've got the Freya/Harper scene) unless it's the Freya/Cain flashback in which case there is a bug as it doesn't show up in Sweet Memories.
Brother, how do I pick the lock and find the princess?
 

Dfgjjkl

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Every quest is done, but Sidneys Secrets. Says i need to talk to mom but i cant find her at home anywhere.
If you go to the Pool area and hold space it will show you an exclamation sign towards the end of the area. She is supposed to be there but some quest needs to be completed before that
 

watermankaku

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I've completed everything for Jade.

I've completed all of drake's quests but I can't find the dolls (I found vanessa's bronze doll) I think the others might be Alison and Kiera but I can't see them anywhere.

Freya/Cain I think I've completed all the quests but as Virginity remains white and doesn't show any info what-so-ever I can't be sure. I am however missing one of the sweet memories (I've got the Freya/Harper scene) unless it's the Freya/Cain flashback in which case there is a bug as it doesn't show up in Sweet Memories.
Brother, how do I pick the lock and find the princess?
talk to orha to prepare a lockpick then click on the lockpick in your inventory and then click it on the door
Thanks!
 

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I've completed everything for Jade.

I've completed all of drake's quests but I can't find the dolls (I found vanessa's bronze doll) I think the others might be Alison and Kiera but I can't see them anywhere.

Freya/Cain I think I've completed all the quests but as Virginity remains white and doesn't show any info what-so-ever I can't be sure. I am however missing one of the sweet memories (I've got the Freya/Harper scene) unless it's the Freya/Cain flashback in which case there is a bug as it doesn't show up in Sweet Memories.
Search for the Alison's golden doll near the legs of the Villager (right side from her)
 

zackgaspar

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I'm showing all quests complete on the Freya route, but still missing one Sweet Memory. I saw someone else post this but couldn't find an answer - is there a new quest that needs to be triggered somewhere? In the memories page it's the 2nd to last entry missing.
 

Dude137

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A practice of publishing changelogs is considered useless, as it seems for people in this thread and for developer of the game. Is it really that hard to write a small amount of words, to give a quick general overview of what exactly was added and changed in the newest version?

Downloading ~13 GB of the game and getting quests done for just looking at what is new looks like a hassle and a waste of time, if the newly added content wasn't worth it.

Facts:

1) Not all people have a luxury of having that much time for doing that
2) From a consumer's (of adult content) point of view there's a desire to know what to expect, at least approximately:
- to get what we want in the end
- to not end up unsatisfied after wasting time

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After all, we come here to fap. All other aspects carry supplementary roles, only to enchance a fapping experience. If we wanted to play only, we would've play conventional video games. If we wanted a story only, we would've read a book or watch a movie. To not know what's in the content we download is akin giving people unknown food to eat after they've waited in queue for their turn, without letting them know about what it's made of. Some food is plain and unsatisfying, some food is bad nutrition-wise or health-wise, some food is disgusting for the individual taste and provokes vomiting.

Imagine the frustration of a man that waited long in queue only to end up with something he doesn't even want. That's where a food list options and a food components labels take place! The same story is with a tags and a changelogs... A baker who cares about his audience and his money income would've let people know what's inside the new pie he made. Thus I question whether the baker (game creator) cares about both of these. Because people will stop coming to that certain bakery after they've experienced being fed up pies with unknown content. I dunno, maybe only omnivores who like the thrill of unknown taste and the thrill of finding a scattered pieces of puzzle as a prerequisite of getting their (cream)pies are going to be left as the said baker's market.

But oh well, since there's NTR tag now, I guess I'll leave this thread and this game, lol.
Well said, and I've been critical of this sort of thing with other games, especially grindy games that give the player no clue as to what is achievable. Some games have gnarly grind mechanics designed, but the devs don't bother to mention anything like "Oh, hey, there are no scenes programmed into the game yet to reward your grind!"

However, with Nenad and EON, I don't think having a super specific changelog is needed. The quest system is already very detailed, and if you've played this game consistently, you'll know that two scenes are programmed for each character for each update. Yeah, I get that many people are busy and that they don't have time to play the game, so they only sign in hopes of seeing development with their favorite characters. But with Nenad's games, you get the potential of scenes with a bazillion girls since he puts so many in, so it's unlikely you'll get scenes with your select few anyway. But because there is so much variety, hey, maybe some other characters/scenes will pleasantly surprise you.

You also say, "Downloading ~13 GB of the game and getting quests done for just looking at what is new looks like a hassle and a waste of time, if the newly added content wasn't worth it" as a way to support the need for a specific changelog. And I agree that dl that much gb is a hassle--but there's an updater. You can't put forth that the game's large size necessitates a detailed changelog when you're not taking advantage of the updater.

You also go into an analogy about bakers and the importance of providing a detailed menu, but I'd argue you're giving way too much weight to the importance of having a changelog for attracting and maintaining an audience. I'd imagine people who decide to support these types of games probably do so because they find the content consistently good--even though the menu might vary considerably with each update (as it does with EON, since so many characters are involved). If others are sticking around only for content for a select few characters (as you imply you're doing) or fetishes and can't be bothered to play the game otherwise, then a changelog isn't going to spark more interest in a game for those people. What would need to change is an overhaul in the general content so that it aligns more with these players' interests.

If Nenad started producing a detailed changelog, would that get you to become a patron? Probably not.
 
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