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They don't link the android port to the OP now, don't know the reason. You just have to search "android" in "this thread"
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MC is not going to be your typical "loser" in NTR games (pencil-dick, spineless, etc...), but I can see why you would think that. The state of NTR games is... not looking good. Which is why we are doing what we're doing.
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I have read a fair few of your posts, and I agree with lots of them so I'm looking forward to seeing what you do story wise dude.
I especially am excited about the Celes stuff she is so beautiful. She might even be in my top tier LI list.
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I actually think I like Celes more. And you know me dude I can't wait to see her hop on Cedric's big dick.
Maybe she'll eventually let me watch
Six likes in such a short time, clearly a lot of people aren’t fans of the pathetic MC. I’m glad this isn’t just another cuckolding thread focused on humiliating the MC
I’m really into NTR when the FMC and MC are fleshed-out characters with a deep connection. It hits different when they’re in a solid relationship, but some legit, complicated situation lead the FMC to engage in sexual encounters with other men
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im starting to come around Celes the more I think about her character. I think I just want to like Julia more lol but yeah the more I think about it Celes is better. But with that being said idk if Celes will ever beat my favorite girlfriend and wives in other games.I actually think I like Celes more. And you know me dude I can't wait to see her hop on Cedric's big dick.
Maybe she'll eventually let me watch
While Celes and the MC has a good relationship it just doens't feel the same to me when they have been dating or married for so long. The relationship with Celes is rather new for the MC so for me I don't think it will hit me the same as my favorites but I hope im proven wrong cause I do like her character alot so far. Plus she is a reverse Iseaki which I love and has a good story so far especially for a NTR game.
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I really like all the women in this but yeah, Celes is number one for me.
This game has quickly rocketed up my list Dess. I'm already excited for the next update.
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yeah I wasn't gonna buy this on steam just yet was gonna wait for 1 or 2 more updates but im really considering it.
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I honestly recommend buying it dude. It's cheap and in my opinion worth it already.
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Celes and MC will spend more quality time together before any real NTR starts, don't fret.
That's weird, I wonder why? I think a lot of ppl underestimate just how many play these type of games on their phones or tablet ect. I don't play these games unless it's a port. Much more easier and convenient. I mean I have a laptop, but I don't care to play porn games on it anymore.
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Your approach to implementing NTR reminds me of Elf، This reminder made me want to talk about his core principles regarding NTR games
I’m not sure if you know Elf or not—he stopped game development about 10 years ago. Many consider him a legend in the realm of Netorare
He paid meticulous attention to the depth of the MC and FMC's relationship and their personalities. Back then, when another man attempted to Deceiving/ Creating big problems for the FMC, it created an intense mix of sweet excitement, stress, and tension for the player
Unavoidable NTR can be excellent, provided that the MC, with the player’s guidance through "choices" manages to maintain an emotional and sexual relationship with the FMC. This means that while sexual encounters between the FMC and the others occur, the MC and FMC remain in a romantic relationship. If they were to become emotionally or sexually detached or lose the love between them, NTR wouldn’t deliver that same thrilling satisfaction as before, the only thing that remains is a feeling of despair
I hope "choices" in this context capture that crucial aspect effectively
This means that the MC (who, as you mentioned, isn’t a loser) can, in one of the two paths, by "choices" to maintain a deep romantic relationship and their personalities while also witnessing the FMC’s intense sexual encounters with other men for logically justifiable reasons
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Ok good start for a game. All the mains and sides are fun as well as the story, though if my supposed bff keeps pushing up on my "wife" he about to get knocked the fuck out.
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I tend to agree I think it's important for Celes & the MC to have an emotional connection throughout the game.
I'm with you on the meaningful bond requirement for good NTR, but I'm rather tired of almost every western NTR being some form of cuckoldry fetish.
Really, what logically justifiable reasons can even exist where a dude watches his girl getting banged throughout the story? The only obvious paths are beta cuck that enjoys getting cucked (like Joshy XD), and the spineless worthless MCs that hates being cucked but can't/won't do anything about it even though he understands exactly what's going on (and in many cases they get closeted cuck boners anyways). The former is willing cuckoldry, aka straight netorase, and it will appeal to those fans obviously, but not to hardcore NTR enjoyers that like betrayal and cheating aspect. The latter can be categorized as unwilling cuckoldry, which can be a subset of netorare, but the moment the MC learns about the NTR, the story and character development is put under immesnse strain to stay logical, and it gets repetitive very fast since this happens quite early in the story.
Personally, I prefer the oblivious paths where the MC remains blind to what's really going on for most of the story so that the FMC can be corrupted without his constant cuck shenanigans derailing the corruption arc.
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The last sentence was written broadly to cover both the Netorare and cuckolding routes, as it seems one of the paths in this game involves cuckolding
Here’s how I rank my preferences:
- 1st Rank: The MC doesn’t know, but the player does – this aligns with what you’re interested in
- 2nd Rank: Both the MC and the player know – implementing this can be tricky because in 99% of games that take this route, both the MC and even the FMC experience significant personality degradation, to the extent that the FMC ends up being reduced to nothing more than a worthless "slut"
- 3rd Rank: Neither the MC nor the player knows – I’m not a fan of this approach because it’s too mysterious. It leaves the player feeling confused and unsure of how to interpret the FMC and the other characters, making it hard to tell who’s a friend and who’s an enemy. as a result, the player doesn't know what feelings to have about the relationships, the people, or the story itself