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That's just not true, though. You can make more believable characters in a harem game. Being ok with an harem isn't some magical thing that instantly destroys a character's believability. Going into a game like this everyone will have a certain suspension of disbelief and that suspension of disbelief will generally extends to all the hot women being strangely very ok with a harem. Noone is saying that the girls aren't allowed to be ok with a harem. The problem isn't that Eternum is a harem game, the problem is how Eternum goes about it's harem elements. You don't need endless drama to write a harem more believable than it is currently in Eternum.

There isn't really anything wrong with most of the girls development so far. Nancy, Dahlia, Alex and Nova have pretty much all established that what happened so far is not part of a serious thing. Even if they don't really mean it, there's no real problem there with Orion doing it with other girls as well. Annie is just the outlier here. He's started seriously dating her and hasn't mentioned the other girls to her or even just thought about her with other girls. It doesn't need drama, but it would have helped if he had given annie a heads up. When they made the date arrangement or even after the date. He wouldn't even need to directly mention doing stuff with other girls. For example he could have asked her if she wants them to be exclusive and given how nervous annie is about dating orion and how she tries to downplay stuff it would have made sense for her be like "Oh, it's chill, all cool, don't worry about it."

I don't disagree that Eternum is fun the way it it. We wouldn't be commenting here at all, if we weren't invested in the game. But that doesn't mean it's devoid of things to critisize. And I do heavily disagree witht the assessment that more believable character interactions in harem games need drama. That's one way to write them, but it is by far not the only way to write them.
That was not what the original discussion was about though. I was arguing against the need to take things slower and that the progression of sexual content is fine the way it is. I think the issue you are pointing out is an issue I agree with - the MC can be a bit more considerate. I also want the MC to be more open to annie and the game establishing that either annie is ok with the MC seeing other girls (I am sure she is ok but I want the game to be more explicit about it) or making it clear this is not 1:1. I also did not like the way he was willing to throw away money she had been saving up for him on some random whore - he came off as a complete asshole to me in that scene. But this is not what I am trying to talk about.

What I am trying to say is the girls advances towards the MC is fine the way it is and does not need to be changed. I dont see anything wrong with Dalia willing to give the MC a blowjob or Nancy flirting and being open to the MC's advances in the roman server. I am perfectly ok with the pace of the sexual content and I dont think it needs to be slowed down for the sake of realism. The change that I think needs to happen is within the MC and not within the girls.
 
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That was not what the original discussion was about though. I was arguing against the need to take things slower and that the progression of sexual content is fine the way it is. I think the issue you are pointing out is an issue I agree with - the MC can be a bit more considerate. I also want the MC to be more open to annie and the game establishing that either annie is ok with the MC seeing other girls (I am sure she is ok but I want the game to be more explicit about it) or making it clear this is not 1:1. I also did not like the way he was willing to throw away money she had been saving up for him on some random whore - he came off as a complete asshole to me in that scene. But this is not what I am trying to talk about.

What I am trying to say is the girls advances towards the MC is fine the way it is and does not need to be changed. I dont see anything wrong with Dalia willing to give the MC a blowjob or Nancy flirting and being open to the MC's advances in the roman server. I am perfectly ok with the pace of the sexual content and I dont think it needs to be slowed down for the sake of realism. The change that I think needs to happen is within the MC and not within the girls.
I disagree, the argument was not about taking things slower, or about the progress being off. Go back a couple of pages and you'll see that I started this discussion, and your first post about it was a response to me.

I clearly said this:
Did anyone else find the Dalia beach scene rushed? And the Nancy one as well but less so.
I think all other scenes are spot-on.

Dalia went from nothing to surprised she kissed MC to a BJ in an hour, it felt very rushed.
This discussion was exactly about that, i never said things need to taken slower.
Look at the Penny scene for a second, Orion is shocked she is even TALKING ABOUT TOPLESS PICTURES, he is dumbfounded and you can clearly feel he is so scared of saying anything to mess this up so he just says "uhh hua"

That's all think was missing in the Dalia and Nancy scenes (not THAT exactly, but pacing for those scenes individually), otherwise, i too am ok with those scenes just like you are!

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I also did not like the way he was willing to throw away money she had been saving up for him on some random whore - he came off as a complete asshole to me in that scene.
I can actually somehow get this.
At this point in the story he is a virgin that pretty much hasn't ever touched a woman, being sold on the idea that an extremely attractive woman that REJECTED many others, is interested in him. It's funny but i find it understandable.
 
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This discussion was exactly about that, i never said things need to taken slower.
I do not understand. Doesn't a complaint about a scene being rushed imply that you want the progression to be slower? Or am I misunderstanding something? I am saying that I think the scene with dalia/nancy are fine the way they are and I dont think it needs to go slower.

I can actually somehow get this.
At this point in the story he is a virgin that pretty much hasn't ever touched a woman, being sold on the idea that an extremely attractive woman that REJECTED many others, is interested in him. It's funny but i find it understandable.
I felt like it is the equivalent of spitting on Annie's face - she spent months/maybe even years saving up for Orion (presumably to eventually get him a chip) and he is happy to throw it away for an hour of fun on some whore he just met. Virgin or not I dont think his behavior can be justified. Can I understand his behavior? Yes. Does it make him look like a complete piece of shit in my eyes? Also yes.
 
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That is also kind of missing with Annie - how is this going to go about in future update? would we need to break her heart out of nowhere? i think some of the prep he made was a good start (with how they will just go with it) but with the way things are going right now, only Nancy is on board with "a more the merrier", the rest i can see working out, and Annie would probably be devastated.
I'd honestly really hate it if Annie is just written to believe "oh well, my boyfriend's been banging other people behind my back and he won't stop, i like this idea". She's an innocent girl who said herself she imagines her relationship to play out like a Disney movie, so I don't know how well written the inevitable "Annie finds out" scene will be, other than a "I'll join a harem for the sake of harem" situation.
 
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I'd honestly really hate it if Annie is just written to believe "oh well, my boyfriend's been banging other people behind my back and he won't stop, i like this idea". She's an innocent girl who said herself she imagines her relationship to play out like a Disney movie, so I don't know how well written the inevitable "Annie finds out" scene will be, other than a "I'll join a harem for the sake of harem" situation.
I do not expect it to be some long drama filled scene. I think it is going to be like once in a lifetime where lauren+judy found out about each other. I think Annie is just going to be ok with it. She has a crush on Dalia as well so maybe the dev can use that to make her more ok with the harem.
 

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Yeah I agree, that's the thing, OIALT and the other harem games I've played all have a casual feel to them. But for Eternum, Caribdis wrote a more serious relationship story with Annie that plays out like a normal relationship between young people (minus the spontaneous thighjob). So it feels weird writing-wise for MC to do all this casual flirting and sex, while also giving him a traditional dating path with a girl who's none the wiser.
The current update is next for me to play (delayed gratification and other games ahead of it and all), but Annie is the only IRL relationship right now that has included contact (at least as far as I've played) and other sexy times have been within Eternum. Unless and until that dynamic changes, he's effectively playing a harem game himself, while having a single LI IRL.
 

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I do not understand. Doesn't a complaint about a scene being rushed imply that you want the progression to be slower? Or am I misunderstanding something? I am saying that I think the scene with dalia/nancy are fine the way they are and I dont think it needs to go slower.
I think the argument was more about Orion reaction/dialogue rather than the scene in itself. His overconfidence and the lack of doubt and double check on his part during those scenes. Orion could have been a little bit more uncomfortable (at first at least) like during the photoshoot with Penelope, and the progress would have been the same in the end.

Maybe saying the scene was rushed makes the explanation confusing though. Dalia and Nancy are less jittery than Annie so Orion didn't need to be that overconfident to result in the same actions in the end with them. He could have been less rushed, with the scene playing out anyway, resulting in no consequences on the progression of the relationship.

Well that's what I think horndog is saying.
 
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Since im new with the game, how are the updates set up?
Monthly releases with few scenes?
 
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Since im new with the game, how are the updates set up?
Monthly releases with few scenes?
Currently the game is updated every 4 months (give or take a few days) with each update having at least 3 H-scenes + 2-3 hours of gameplay depending on how fast you read/scroll. And it has been pretty consistent with this update pattern since its first day.
 

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Currently the game is updated every 4 months (give or take a few days) with each update having at least 3 H-scenes + 2-3 hours of gameplay depending on how fast you read/scroll. And it has been pretty consistent with this update pattern since its first day.
hahequ What he said, and if you scroll back a few pages you'll see the most recent update showing 44% complete, which puts us on a pace for a late December/early January release for the next installment.

Well worth your time to play this game: great story; great graphics; nice balance of "move the story" to "lewd interlude" for most. Not all will agree, but most enjoy the speed at which this game moves and balances actions. One of my favorite scenes isn't lewd at all, but is in, I think, Ep2 with the Nova directed conference call. Good balance of character dev, amusement and a little madcap - the music ties it all together and gave it a Benny Hill vibe for me. ;)
 
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Eternum...
This is, by far, one of the best written stories I have encountered. The tale is beautiful, the renders are magnificent, the humor is spot on, personalities are all captivating... I'm literally running out of descriptives on how well this game is put together. Thank you so very much for sharing this absolute work of art with us. It's become one of the games I will definitely keep an eye on.

P.S. Nova for life! Crazy hacker stole my heart from the gate.
 

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Eternum...
This is, by far, one of the best written stories I have encountered. The tale is beautiful, the renders are magnificent, the humor is spot on, personalities are all captivating... I'm literally running out of descriptives on how well this game is put together. Thank you so very much for sharing this absolute work of art with us. It's become one of the games I will definitely keep an eye on.

P.S. Nova for life! Crazy hacker stole my heart from the gate.
The beaver shot is always my favorite. Especially if it has a little bit of fur left on it.
 
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Years ago, when I first got into this hobby, I was confused why people will play eroges. Why would you sit through hours of story just to get 3 or 4 hentai CGs. I've played them purely for the story and just CLT skip past all of the porn scenes.

This game made me understood how eroge lovers feel now. Goodness, I'm invested in these characters AND I would love to see their titties.
 

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Years ago, when I first got into this hobby, I was confused why people will play eroges. Why would you sit through hours of story just to get 3 or 4 hentai CGs. I've played them purely for the story and just CLT skip past all of the porn scenes.

This game made me understood how eroge lovers feel now. Goodness, I'm invested in these characters AND I would love to see their titties.
For me it's...been the opposite...

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