We are in agreement then.
You are being fairly hostile and keep twisting my words to interpret my words in a way to assume that I said something bad about Eternum, when I didn't.
So I won't argue any further.
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So I won't argue any further.
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Agreement in regards to how straightforward the plot seemingly is for now, sure. Cari could still throw a curveball though as the story is not even halfway done yet (one of his volunteer staffers said we're about 25-30% done with the main story as of 0.5).
Agreement that Cari is stringing events along with no underlying plan underneath (despite the plan not being as complex as, say, a DARK-tier plot) and everything is just a means to show off a "fun and chill" harem story? No.
I never said that though. I never said that there was no plan. I said that the plan of the 'Eternum mystery' serves as a framing device in order to easily connect the various events. It's clear that there is a definite plan, cari has been very consistent in ending each update with some kind of cliffhanger after all.
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Is this not what you implied in these quotes?
Because your earlier remarks make it sound like you're saying this VN is just OIAL 2.0 where - if you scrutinize them well enough - majority of the events that happen never really contribute to the advancement of the story, that they're simply fun events that contribute to relationship and harem building. And when story does happen, everything goes "REALLY SERIOUS, NOT REALLY FUN STUFF HAPPENING" and where inclusion of some characters leave much to be desired (like randomly having Iris just tag along in the Grimoire of Magnus hunt without any sort of buildup or whatnot, or Stabby Mike becoming absolutely crucial to a lot of stuff moving forward despite just being a random ex-con whom the MC frees out of momentary kindness).
Cari learned from that. It's fairly obvious based on how he's telling the story this time around (weaving SoL and plot advancement) and on how he's making sure every member of Orion's harem gets equal amount of screentime and a more natural inclusion to the overall story, instead of just being sidegirls that're elevated to the plot if needed but then discarded right after (looking at you, Aiko). You can say that Nancy's and Penny's inclusion is just two individuals getting stringed along into playing a VRMMO just to get close to the guy that they like, but you have to be naïve in thinking that the experience and stuff that they've gained from their respective first-time playthroughs won't contribute to the story in any way later on (especially Nancy's).
It is not. At least it's not what I meant to say with them. I'm not saying there's 0 story in those worlds.
I'm saying that the meat of those worlds is to provide the fun event. They may have some story-seasoning sprinkled in, sometimes they have quite a lot of story in there.
But the big main purpose of those scenes is the fun event. Warthogs happens because it's a fun event in a magical world, not because of a small story hint that you can get if you make a specific choice .
Also it seems that you have a lot stronger opinions on OIALT than I do. I can see how my somewhat vague arguments could lead to misunderstandings, especially if they hit a sore spot like that.
- May 21, 2017
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You and I see things differently so we'll just have to agree to disagree. You see these events for the fun stuff that they bring, I look close at these events and see how they move things forward. It's the reason why I think - going back to the topic that started this whole exchange - certain people didn't like 0.5: because they have that kind of mindset while playing through the story. However, I appreciate 0.5 more so than they do because some downtime is definitely needed after the major stuff that the gang went through (while also providing some hints that despite the much-needed break Orion didn't come out unscathed from his experiences in the game). And I'm of the opinion that, given that Caribdis is planning to go further in terms of story length, we will be seeing more of such updates in the future.
Don't get me wrong, I like OIAL and I think it's a diamond in the rough. But the rough parts (i.e. lack of music for the most part of the story, entire narrative feeling like a slog in the first 3 updates, certain characters feeling underutilized (i.e. Aiko, Iris, Asmodeus) while certain characters feel overutilized (i.e. Stabby Mike)) were DEFINITELY rough for me. Would probably rate it a solid 3-3.5/5 if I give it a review but I'm holding off until Cari either posts the long-awaited Epilogue (so I can add it to the review if need be) or announces its cancellation or something.
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I think you're under the misconception that what you prefer in Eternum is the main purpose of it. However, the way Caribdis tells the story and the "fun events" make the two intertwine in a way that neither of them "serves" the other, but each of them complete each other instead. The story serves its own "main purpose", while the "fun events" also serve their own main purpose. It's just so happens that Caribdis is good enough to mix the two in a way that neither is "more important" than the other. Instead, both the story and the fun events follow their own "main purpose" while completing each other in a satisfying way : the story allows the fun events to happen, and the fun events allow the story to be told. You can prefer one or the other, but neither is there just to "provide" the other with content. They're both independantly great and they're also nicely mixed together.
To use your own words, the "meat" of those worlds is to provide both the fun events AND the story. The big main purpose of story scenes is to tell the story and to allow the fun events to happen, while the big main purpose of the "fun events" is to have fun and allow the story to breathe. What you pay more attention to is just what you prefer, not what is actually the most important within the game.
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Im down horrendous checking Patreon everyday for the release window post
Break the chains of this cursed loop, free me please Caribdis!!
Break the chains of this cursed loop, free me please Caribdis!!
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Just hang in there partner. The dreaded Eternum withdrawal symptom should be over by July at the latest.Im down horrendous checking Patreon everyday for the release window post
Break the chains of this cursed loop, free me please Caribdis!!
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But there are so many other games out there where an incest mod makes sense, where it makes literal the implications the developer has put into the game. I'm not sure why some people seem hell bent on trying to turn EVERY game into an incest game.
If I recall correctly, the game doesn't have mods. Oialt used HS, this one uses HS2, and on both games Caribdis uses photoshop to put the girls more realistic possible and according to his own tastes.
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not every but well in this game you live with a milf and her two hot daugthers soo the setting for the incest is more plausible than in other games i know that several lines of dialogue (and someting more) would be to be changed. but like i said i enjoy the game without incest only that i think i would be fun.
and if summertime saga has a mod of sissification (xd) then i don't know why this game can't have a incest mod.
Mmm.. hard to believe I tried in my laptop...maybe true. I dont know much about photoshop
You can believe because it is what Caribdis himself said here... Otherwise I wouldn't take time to answer you. I just don't recall if I'm missing something more besides what I mentioned.
- May 21, 2017
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Some of the maps he uses for the game are commissioned works though. I know cause I've managed to stumble upon
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and some of the stuff he/she released on his/her Patreon were used in Eternum (though it seems that Cari gets first dibs as said modder publishes the maps later than the update where they were used).
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This is from SuscribeStar. There should be an update regarding progress soon. Maybe the last sneak peek will be released sometime later as well.
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If you're asking for progress of latest update, post above me covers that (81%, release date sometime next month).
If you're asking how far we are technically in terms of story, a volunteer staffer of Cari said that as of 0.5 we're currently about 25-30% done with the overall story.
If you're asking how many more updates there are before this game becomes complete, Cari said that the story length (past updates included) might end up being "somewhere between 12 to 20 updates...probably."
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ADZer and Dorfnutter have already answer you, but if the question is about if the game have enough content to play it and don't feel it like is incomplete then the answer is yes, the game had easily 6-8 game hours, every chapter feels complete and the waiting between updates is more like waiting new season from your favourite show.