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VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.0] [Caribdis]

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yinAzura

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Klezyr said:
Just like you , i have some theories too that the author can choose from now:

1 - MC actually dies and becomes an NPC in Eternum (it would be really insane and the most "realistic" thing to happen, it would also be revealed how death interacts with Eternum since the MC would experience it firsthand, but I think it's still too early to this happens and the only person who could notice this and find him would be Calypso, if their "connection" remains active and MC not lose his memories).
2 - Just like Idriel changed dimensions, MC has already had several "living dreams" which is him increasing his affinity with Eternum and perhaps this allows the MC to either teleport to Eternum and heal himself as happened previously in the bar with Calypso, OR, the gift from the "founder" activates, as it saves you from death 1 time "no matter what happens".
3 - MC just doesn't die because of his "power" and it is finally explained why he is "special" (i think it's the worst choice).
4 - Calypso was in her ritual for a loooong time to gain knowledge and perhaps she will gain more power too at the end, as it was revealed that she "feels" the MC energy change/presence, even though it is unlikely, she could create a portal to seek the MC before the police arrive at the scene and save him in Eternum, if Idriel can why can't one of Eternum's "Secret Weapons"?
5 - The woman who is "following" the MC in the shadows, she appeared briefly at the end of the Hunters vs. Demons, for me she is a total stranger, which could be a player, if so the chance of her also following the MC outside of Eternum is high, she would end up being able to save him from death if she was there.
6 - "THE DOPPLEMORPHER!"
This is by far the most bizarre theory, but we've already had several flashbacks explaining various events and actions, even though it's crazy it wouldn't be so unbelievable that the MC or the girls do something with the artifact to change or prevent the MC death...
7 - MC goes to "limbo" and together with Idriel he will "break the chains", I don't know exactly what Idriel's speech means, maybe it's changing the future that is already written or "breaking" the barriers that separate the dimensions of Eternum, this is the most confusing thing but Idriel made it clear that it is better to die than not "get" to die, maybe this is related to the death of the MC but it would also be a strange thing to happen, since this implies that Idriel led the MC to death.
8 - I'm just raving about it and it's totally unlikely to happen, but...
"IF" what Idriel says is completely true, that there were several attempts before and they all failed, "MAYBE" the MC could be a reincarnator, which would explain his power having activated after the near death of Thanatos, because Idriel says "you won't remember anyway" so many times and because "only" the MC can save Eternum. The problem with this is that it would raise the possibility that they wanted to save Eternum before the "founder" found out, as it would take several years for so many attempts to fail.
I only really thought about this shit hypothesis because in the dance scene with Penny on the Vampire route, the MC openly says that "HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW HE DOES EVERYTHING HE DOES, BUT HE EXECUTES EVERYTHING HE TRY PERFECTLY", just like he never learned to dance, but he dances easily guiding Penny in a random very old music AND would this also explain why Luna can't see the MC's future, perhaps because he isn't "human"?...

Regardless of the route, the most curious thing for me is why the frequency that Idriel appeared and influenced the reality around the MC so many times recently, the impression it was giving was that Idriel was manipulating the MC "mind" and the dimension but this ending got everything confusing, Idriel said that she knew everything about the future but this event wasn't planned...
We just couldn't trust her so blind anymore.
0.8 could be the pinnacle of the story and there will definitely be a lot of interaction with Idriel.
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The problem right now is that there is a confirmed scene that will happen very soon (if not 0.8, then wouldn't be pass 0.9) and that is the Ski Trip and Dalia's Birthday. Which in my opinion, those should be held in the real world rather than in Eternum, which means the NPC Orion is most unlikely (it also scraps my vegetable Orion theory completely too). And factoring in mind that he is still in student exchange program timer (thanks to Dorfnutter), Orion has to somehow continue the Pirate server and gathering Gems as normal if Caribdis wants to have the entire story held within the exchange timeframe.

So, with the ending of 0.7, I'm fairly confident that the only way to progress forward in 0.8 is Orion still retains his body in real world in some way shape or form, and must be supernatural because there's no way he can recover normally within that timeframe, according to this lovely guy's explanation.
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A gut shot is a gut shot! The blood loss that was visible indicated a lot of torn tissue. If the hero doesn't get medical help quickly, nothing in the real world can save him.
In order for the hero to be able to heal himself in some way, a complex process in the body would have to be initiated and extremely accelerated. A healing process is not a conscious process, but rather various automatic processes that intertwine. That's why I would push any explanation that the MC heals himself within minutes into the realm of fairy tales and myths.
In the game with Update 0.8, if an ambulance doesn't come rushing around the corner right at the beginning, the MC is dead. And even if this were the case, our hero would be out for weeks if not months. Of course our hero can also play in the hospital without a suit, ha!
Unless the so-called “real” world turns out to be “only” virtual. Then of course everything would be possible. Def Held would just have to rewrite its own code a bit.
I don't know what card game trick Cari will pull out of her hat, but if the hero suddenly heals himself in the real world, I'll just laugh.
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Now the only open ended question will be; Will Orion get anything from this incident?

This is where most people think he will be stuck in the Limbo for some time before his body is fully recovered, or somehow he got help externally like having Calypso port his body into Eternum and heals him that way (the second option in pure Deux Ex Machina imo). As much as the 0.7 ending is super great, it poses a big problem to fix, and potentially a big plothole to patch.

But reading your 8th assumption, I wouldn't pass that possibility. I'm not saying that "Orion is the SCP guy" is an optimal option, but doable nonetheless.
 
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MAGO-DAG said:
You don't appreciate her...
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She's useless. Hasn't amount to anything other than trigger the harem arc for Lunes. Thats about it. She's trash.

Doesn't mean I don't appreciate her though. Just stating facts.
 
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SerHawkes said:
Either reincarnated as one of our possible child (Alex, Nova, Penny) or (Geralt From Rivia) if your no engaged in pro-creation your fucked and reincarnated as Maximo's kid.

Or the most amount of pussy either from the hospital or Eternum pussy via Caly save.
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To be reborn, Cari will have to work hard on a temporary change and embody the adults Alex, Nova or Penny... is the developer ready for the time jump? this is unlikely..
 
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MAGO-DAG said:
To be reborn, Cari will have to work hard on a temporary change and embody the adults Alex, Nova or Penny... is the developer ready for the time jump? this is unlikely..
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Stop ruining my tease job of reincarnation damn it!!!
 
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SerHawkes said:
Stop ruining my tease job of reincarnation damn it!!!
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I just wrote the true logic, everyone is so confident in Orion’s reincarnation, but they forget that he will also have to grow up, and while he’s running around in diapers, will Eternum survive? :coffee: :HideThePain:
 
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MAGO-DAG said:
I just wrote the true logic, everyone is so confident in Orion’s reincarnation, but they forget that he will also have to grow up, and while he’s running around in diapers, will Eternum survive? :coffee: :HideThePain:
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Clearly, the cheat code will be Caly, who will probably sense the new Orion, and power level the kid to level 9000. It was all foretold.
 
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Klezyr said:
I'm new to this post, but I saw that you're a genius with theories, I'd like to discuss with you what I have in mind, are you up for it?

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I'll have to preface this by saying that I'm not a genius, I'm just a slightly unhinged theorycrafter who's dug a little too deep in trying to piece together the lore of this game.
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(PS. To anyone wondering: yes I wrote this on the phone. Yes, my thumbs fucking hurt. Brb, going to dunk them on ice to numb the pain. :HideThePain: )
 
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MAGO-DAG said:
May be. But what about milfs such as Orion's mother (Alex), aunts Penny and Dalia, as well as adult babysitter Annie and grandmother Nancy? :HideThePain:
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Naturally they all hook up and marry each other. Penny with Lunes. Nova and Annie. Alex and Dalia. And Nancy totally looks after them all.
 
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yinAzura said:
The problem right now is that there is a confirmed scene that will happen very soon (if not 0.8, then wouldn't be pass 0.9) and that is the Ski Trip and Dalia's Birthday. Which in my opinion, those should be held in the real world rather than in Eternum, which means the NPC Orion is most unlikely (it also scraps my vegetable Orion theory completely too). And factoring in mind that he is still in student exchange program timer (thanks to Dorfnutter), Orion has to somehow continue the Pirate server and gathering Gems as normal if Caribdis wants to have the entire story held within the exchange timeframe.

So, with the ending of 0.7, I'm fairly confident that the only way to progress forward in 0.8 is Orion still retains his body in real world in some way shape or form, and must be supernatural because there's no way he can recover normally within that timeframe, according to this lovely guy's explanation.

Now the only open ended question will be; Will Orion get anything from this incident?

This is where most people think he will be stuck in the Limbo for some time before his body is fully recovered, or somehow he got help externally like having Calypso port his body into Eternum and heals him that way (the second option in pure Deux Ex Machina imo). As much as the 0.7 ending is super great, it poses a big problem to fix, and potentially a big plothole to patch.

But reading your 8th assumption, I wouldn't pass that possibility. I'm not saying that "Orion is the SCP guy" is an optimal option, but doable nonetheless.
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MC can still become an NPC and leave Eternum, he just can't lose his memory and not be able to see the system like other NPCs, because he is "special", has the help of Calypso and other tools besides the girls , it's not that unrealistic that this could happen, it would still be a way for him to discover the truth about death's interaction with Eternum...

Your theory of him staying in vegetative mode is also not unrealistic, he could stay in a "coma" for some time, even if it's just hours, since he would probably be taken to limbo and there "time" does not exist, he could face anything there for years and also get answers from Idriel before returning to reality without time passing...

This is the exact problem that I mentioned earlier, these small flaws in the story that have not been explained from the beginning until now are what allow all of this to be viable and possible.
However, I started thinking again about my theory n.8 and it increasingly makes more sense and would also be even more interesting and complex to have in the story, it literally fills in all the gaps and would delve deeper into the mysteries of Astral energy even before the interference of "Founder".
 
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yinAzura

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SerHawkes said:
Either reincarnated as one of our possible child (Alex, Nova, Penny) or (Geralt From Rivia) if your no engaged in pro-creation your fucked and reincarnated as Maximo's kid.

Or the most amount of pussy either from the hospital or Eternum pussy via Caly save.
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I'm still not having enough with any of those girls at their teens, not to mention Annie, Luna, and Calypso. So no, I'll pass.

 
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