VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.6 Public] [Caribdis]

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Dorfnutter

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First, it proves that Orion focusing on the mission over the girls' wants (in this case, having a conversation about muffins) isn't something new. Hence his behavior to Nova isn't something that came out of nowhere.

Second, that scene with the courtesans is me refuting your argument that Orion has "overwhelming tunnel vision" for the girls. If that were true, then he would've focused more on thinking about the potential danger Nova and Alex are in and would've jumped on that portal without second thought. Except he didn't, even negotiating with Caly to stay there "forever."
 
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Dorfnutter said:
Him revealing his plans to Garrington and revealing Caly's ability to him as if he were gloating. Him deciding either to use his name or alias and then hoping it'll spread far. All signs pointing to that throwaway line being present and consistent with some of his actions, percolating until all of those wins and conquests put that line of thinking into the forefront this patch.
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Dorfnutter said:
He tagged along with Luna and Penny because of the NPC disturbance in Ekabar. Or are we just going to ignore that?
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Only after they realize that getting what they want will result in negative consequences so they course correct or experience a redemption arc. Orion got shot because he let said wants get to his head, and it's obvious that he's about to get a redemption arc. Or do you think that he didn't deserve to get shot back there?
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Oh, so now we're ignoring the Syndicate? The implication from Idriel's dialogue that she's been monitoring Orion if he's still in "the right path" and her constant coaxing for him to "break the chains" and "keep moving forward?" The dead who've plagued Orion's dreams since the beginning of the story asking for his help?
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Also, "not defined by his ambition and thirst for fame." You really want to reduce Orion into a self-insert who has no personal desires or flaws despite the story saying otherwise? Despite me pointing out instances where they've shown but you continue to ignore because they apparently aren't important enough for you or "major enough" to warrant a look.
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Okay, it's over the top clear that you're completely ignoring the entire premise of what I say and straw manning your way again and again. The MC gloating to Garrington is not proof of his ego and arrogance dwarfing his involvement with his harem. You keep posting and citing examples of him being cocky, not his cockiness overshadowing his ties with his harem. You're frantically trying to shift the goal posts and straw man your way through, pretending that I'm claiming that the MC doesn't have an ego. That's not what I said and the lines you throw up don't make MC ditching the date unilaterally and suddenly taking Nova for granted any less jarring. I'm done repeating myself with you. There clearly is no point.
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Am I? My position has been that Orion's behavior towards Nova didn't come out from nowhere, that there were moments in the story where his negative aspects sometimes come to light and are a product of goals that you dismissed as "throwaway lines" when they show consistency of character. Just because they don't highlight it as well as you personally like like the LI events (because gods forbid a porn AVN tries to focus on the buildup towards the porn) doesn't mean they're not there.

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That is not a requirement for character arcs and progression. Often, the stated wants aren't the actual wants of characters. Very often, in fact. You're acting as if the stated wants at the start of a story are always true and only change after a character crashes and burns. That's simply not true, and plenty of character arcs don't conform to that formula.
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It remains true until stated otherwise. It's shown to still be true when Orion decided to either use his name or take an alias back in 0.6.

Doorknocker said:
What does the Syndicate have to do with anything I've said? Are you just grasping at straws now? And you know that the MC doesn't remember any of his dreams, right? You've picked up on that?
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You're the one who said that Orion is constantly stringed along by the girls in their adventures as if he doesn't have agency or purpose or being watched by various factions/major characters with their own vested interests, not me.
 
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i really like this game it has amazing jokes its funny scary and has lewd stuff as well as serious stuff i mean the lore behind that scary olace where head or tails appear everytime is just crazy and yeah i like this game its my top one game in the 18+ category
 
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Forbesi said:
Which of the main girls are virgins except Nancy?
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Atm, Annie, Dalia and Luna (the first two are due to get awaited their sexy time in v0.8). While Alex, Nova and Penny had theirs in v0.6 and v0.7 respectively. :)
 
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Forbesi said:
Which of the main girls are virgins except Nancy?
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Annie, Dalia, Nova have been confirmed to be virgins (Nova is no longer a virgin as of this latest episode). Luna is heavily implied to be one as well but not confirmed. Alex and Penny are ambiguous (not including their sex scenes). They definitely don't "act" like virgins but knowing who this game caters to in the context of this topic, it wouldn't surprise me if they were this entire time. I'm personally not a fan of this idea of making all/most love interest virgins except the MILF but the story and characters are done well enough to where you can almost ignore it if you don't like it. And enjoy it if you do.
 
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