VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.9.4] [Caribdis]

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1tomadeira said:
I know that. I also understand that the MC is respectful to the women, unlike many other adult games. I didn't speak for the MC's point of view, I spoke about the player's view. Let's be frank, while we all (mostly) love the game due the story, most also see the girls as pieces of meat (it's fantasy after all, not real life). While Caribdis is an outstanding dev, and his game is stellar, let's not ignore that the game also grew in appeal due it's adult content.

As much as I like Caribdis approach in terms of how women are treated in general in his games, this isn't a lovey-dovey game at most. The girls assets are exceptionally drawn to please the player, besides their personality.

I'm not trying to disdain your argument btw, what you said about feminism in real life it's still true (and I've studied feminism at university btw), and it's true that the game is much more respectful to women than comparing to other games in the same genre, but in the end, the game also has the objective to please the player with the girls. It's a bit as fan service in anime, the MC can be extremely nice to the female characters in anime, but that doesn't mean there isn't some objectification because it sells, it that comparison makes any sense to you, to see what I was trying to say.
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Do bear in mind, though, that "player" does not equate "men", at least not 100% :p
 
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1tomadeira said:
I know that. I also understand that the MC is respectful to the women, unlike many other adult games. I didn't speak for the MC's point of view, I spoke about the player's view. Let's be frank, while we all (mostly) love the game due the story, most also see the girls as pieces of meat (it's fantasy after all, not real life). While Caribdis is an outstanding dev, and his game is stellar, let's not ignore that the game also grew in appeal due it's adult content.

As much as I like Caribdis approach in terms of how women are treated in general in his games, this isn't a lovey-dovey game at most. The girls assets are exceptionally drawn to please the player, besides their personality.

I'm not trying to disdain your argument btw, what you said about feminism in real life it's still true (and I've studied feminism at university btw), and it's true that the game is much more respectful to women than comparing to other games in the same genre, but in the end, the game also has the objective to please the player with the girls. It's a bit as fan service in anime, the MC can be extremely nice to the female characters in anime, but that doesn't mean there isn't some objectification because it sells, it that comparison makes any sense to you, to see what I was trying to say.
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Creating easy female characters, always taking the initiative to take off their clothes in front of men even in public, always taking the initiative to crawl into men's crotch even when he hasn't touched or stimulated them much, always taking the initiative to aim straight at men's cocks uncontrollably... I don't think that's the way to create beauty for feminism ^^! And that is not seem like respectiful to the woman ...But yes If it makes the male character look more feminine and less dangerous, then that's true. ^^
 
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Why do people mention feminism here? I don't see the connection! Because men and women both have proactive and shy people, many different personalities and can change depending on the situation! And making the female characters too proactive towards the character Orion, I think it's just the Dev's preference to build the game like a dream for the boy Orion! Maybe the dev wants to target players with the same personality, circumstances and dreams as the character Orion! If you want to honor feminism, you have to build female characters that are arrogant, innocent, pure and difficult to conquer, less lustful and less proactive! Instead of making the female characters lewd and active, we should create more lewd and evil male characters if we want to honor feminism.
 
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pknight7 said:
Why do people mention feminism here? I don't see the connection! Because men and women both have proactive and shy people, many different personalities and can change depending on the situation! And making the female characters too proactive towards the character Orion, I think it's just the Dev's preference to build the game like a dream for the boy Orion! Maybe the dev wants to target players with the same personality, circumstances and dreams as the character Orion! If you want to honor feminism, you have to build female characters that are arrogant, innocent, pure and difficult to conquer, less lustful and less proactive! Instead of making the female characters lewd and active, we should create more lewd and evil male characters if we want to honor feminism.
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Basically something like this:

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But I think your explanation is also true, that many players just like proactive girls now, as it absolves them from risking something. But that preference is also a result of feminism and the changes in male/female dynamics in our societies.

wiseold6996 said:
Huh most of the sex scenes are rough. Like the nancy scene in elevator or alex scene n her home or penny scence in the studio or the nova scene in her home. The scenes had the girls started off as dominant but mc took over afterwards. Only scene that you can say is soft femdom is calypso but after hearing mc's monologue he will have his getback later. I think cari is a assman because there are spanking scenes. Or he is not confident enough to animate tits because I don't remember any titijob scenes either
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Sadly its often the "I'll dominate her so hard by giving her exactly what she wants"-variant. The ending of the swimming pool changing room scene with alex was funny, though.
 
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I’d be surprised if we don’t encounter some characters ranting about feminism within the next two updates. Yeah.. I can almost imagine how incredible they’ll turn out to be.
 
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pknight7 said:
If you want to honor feminism, you have to build female characters that are arrogant, innocent, pure and difficult to conquer, less lustful and less proactive! Instead of making the female characters lewd and active, we should create more lewd and evil male characters if we want to honor feminism.
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I strongly disagree with this, but I think we might be derailing the thread, so let's stop there and agree to disagree.
 
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Opa Wants said:
According to Caris Discord between 4 & 5 updates till completion.;)
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So, depending on how it goes, a few years then not that it is a bad thing as the story is developed nicely as well as the music and animations. It is funny that I enjoyed this game for a while without knowing the developer made once in a lifetime.
 
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