VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.9.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[ChipLecsap]

Brother, Alex’s whole personality and relationship with the MC revolves around him being the first guy she really opens up to and trusts. Based on how she treated him when they first met, it felt like she treats every guy the same, and no one before him ever broke through that wall. That’s exactly where the whole thing about “Prince Charming” she was waiting for revolves around, at least for me.

That’s why my headcanon is that she was a virgin until she met him. And honestly, I wouldn’t care if she’d been sleeping around like Quinn (white hair, tattoos, and baggage so a good example) if that setup wasn’t part of Alex’s arc.

It’s not about some virgin-worshipping cult nonsense. I treat Eternum like a novel, and when the writing is good, the story matters. That’s the whole point I’ve been making. And like you said, yeah, they’re pixels, but for me, it’s a story.

Sure, Sure whatever you say,
But you do know , I hope, that the Bold part is literally Orion relationship with every other girl in the game.

 

[Dorfnutter]

You're the one who needs your own " headcanon " for confirmation of Alex virginity, otherwise some how it mess with your view of her.


I simply said that you don't need to search some hidden clue, in an unrelated context, to feed your own imagination, since it is an Unwritten Rule in 99,9 % of these games , that they are all virgins.


As for Nova, just purely for to annoy you, She was literally Confirmed Virgin by the Game itself, without search for any hidden clue or headcanon

Remember ?!
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4 line literally took out of context. The whole scenario was basically about Orion wanting to fuck her, and Alex was playing coy because originally she not planned to give in, so she come up with these coy plays. " Just the tip " " only 30 second ", blah blah, and then of course that was thrown out of the window and we all know how the rest went on

I think there's some merit in the argument that Alex could be a virgin due to how she's characterized, tho. Like, Cari wouldn't add the traits that she's unapproachable and "waiting for her Prince Charming" (the last one being a big deal for her given her flashback with her Nana) if she was someone getting back on her parents by sleeping around. Especially given how anal Cari is when it comes to his character's traits...



Like people arguing that Nan should've shown more panic and Cari be like "my brothers in Christ she is the ADULT in the group, she's not gonna be like Nova."

 

[ChipLecsap]

I think there's some merit in the argument that Alex could be a virgin due to how she's characterized, tho. Like, Cari wouldn't add the traits that she's unapproachable and "waiting for her Prince Charming" (the last one being a big deal for her given her flashback with her Nana) if she was someone getting back on her parents by sleeping around. Especially given how anal Cari is when it comes to his character's traits...

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Like people arguing that Nan should've shown more panic and Cari be like "my brothers in Christ she is the ADULT in the group, she's not gonna be like Nova."

But overall it doesn't matter , only for Virgin obsessed ones. No matter how much they deny this. and as I said, Caribdis Knows his audience, so technically you don't need headcanon or wodering about this, of course like I said, there ones who need direct confimration , if they would not need it, they would not even bring the subject up .


Me personally I wouldn't mind if the Girls had experience, I like the "I'm better than anyone before me " more than "I'm the only one they ever gonna experience with it" trope, I think that is more satisfying

 

[Julius Kingsley]

But overall it doesn't matter , only for Virgin obsessed ones. No matter how much they deny this. and as I said, Caribdis Knows his audience, so technically you don't need headcanon or wodering about this, of course like I said, there ones who need direct confimration , if they would not need it, they would not even bring the subject up .


Me personally I wouldn't mind if the Girls had experience, I like the "I'm better than anyone before me " more than "I'm the only one they ever gonna experience with it" trope, I think that is more satisfying

Honestly, it’s my fault for jumping into a conversation without realizing you struggle with basic reading comprehension. I’ll stop here and head back to my cave to worship some virgin pixel pussy in peace.

 

[ChipLecsap]

I’ll stop here and head back to my cave to worship some virgin pixel pussy in peace.

 

[Dorfnutter]

But overall it doesn't matter , only for Virgin obsessed ones. No matter how much they deny this.

Not necessarily. In my case it's more to do with character consistency: like if I wrote my character to have certain traits (i.e. waiting for Prince Charming because Nana said he will show up someday) then I wouldn't try to have them do something that would seemingly contradict that (i.e. being sexually promiscuous) unless there's a story/character reason behind it (i.e. Alex actually hating her Nana so she does things to besmirch her memory).

 

[elbo911]

Why not? That's kinda ridiculous. The fact she's emotionally reserved doesn't mean she has to be a nun.

See Dorfnutter's post just above, maybe he expressed it better.
Of course you can have casual sex without any emotional baggage or whatever. But probably not for your first time. Even if so, I'm not saying there'd be anything wrong with that, I just don't think picking up a random dude and letting him deflower her fits Alex' character. If she lost her virginity before Orion, I'm totally fine with that, my guess is just she didn't.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

*sigh*.... this eternal debate "is she a virgin or not a virgin" will never end...
But, no one mentioned one thing - Alex has the best ass too!

 

[agrdtcwa]

Brother, Alex’s whole personality and relationship with the MC revolves around him being the first guy she really opens up to and trusts. Based on how she treated him when they first met, it felt like she treats every guy the same, and no one before him ever broke through that wall. That’s exactly where the whole thing about “Prince Charming” she was waiting for revolves around, at least for me.

That’s why my headcanon is that she was a virgin until she met him. And honestly, I wouldn’t care if she’d been sleeping around like Quinn (white hair, tattoos, and baggage so a good example) if that setup wasn’t part of Alex’s arc.

It’s not about some virgin-worshipping cult nonsense. I treat Eternum like a novel, and when the writing is good, the story matters. That’s the whole point I’ve been making. And like you said, yeah, they’re pixels, but for me, it’s a story.

Realistically I can definitely see her sleeping around as a fuck you to William. I dont think that would be out of character. It is just as likely as her not being in a prior relationship imo.

But not like any of this matters. And its definitely not something the game will address. What matters is the MC is her partner now. What she may or may not have done in the past is of no consequence and is not relevant to the game in any way.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

Not necessarily. In my case it's more to do with character consistency: like if I wrote my character to have certain traits (i.e. waiting for Prince Charming because Nana said he will show up someday) then I wouldn't try to have them do something that would seemingly contradict that (i.e. being sexually promiscuous) unless there's a story/character reason behind it (i.e. Alex actually hating her Nana so she does things to besmirch her memory).

 

[elbo911]

*sigh*.... this eternal debate "is she a virgin or not a virgin" will never end...
But, no one mentioned one thing - Alex has the best ass too!
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There really was no debate, just ChipLecsap thinking it was.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Not necessarily. In my case it's more to do with character consistency: like if I wrote my character to have certain traits (i.e. waiting for Prince Charming because Nana said he will show up someday) then I wouldn't try to have them do something that would seemingly contradict that (i.e. being sexually promiscuous) unless there's a story/character reason behind it (i.e. Alex actually hating her Nana so she does things to besmirch her memory).

or may be along the ride as Alex grown up, that fairy tale faded away , but now that The Guy showed up it reminded her to that memory and to that dream, and may be it was not a fairy tale.

Whether she had sex with someone before Orion or not, does not change any of this. He not became any less special, in fact this makes him more special , if he Arrived when Alex was long has given up on that dream , what I belive would been more fitting and mature for her character anyway.
and Frankly this was the vibe I get.

 

[ChipLecsap]

*sigh*.... this eternal debate "is she a virgin or not a virgin" will never end...
But, no one mentioned one thing - Alex has the best ass too!
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[MAGO-DAG]

I think there's some merit in the argument that Alex could be a virgin due to how she's characterized, tho. Like, Cari wouldn't add the traits that she's unapproachable and "waiting for her Prince Charming" (the last one being a big deal for her given her flashback with her Nana) if she was someone getting back on her parents by sleeping around. Especially given how anal Cari is when it comes to his character's traits...

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Like people arguing that Nan should've shown more panic and Cari be like "my brothers in Christ she is the ADULT in the group, she's not gonna be like Nova."

I never had any doubts that Alex was a "virgin" before Orion, purely theoretically. But you put it better, because that's what I had in my head!
The thing is, after seeing the flashback scene with her grandmother, it would be weird to know that she would give up her virginity to someone so easily, waiting for her normal prince...

and it's partly out of character, the most I can say is [Maybe] maybe she tried to date some guys and nothing good came of it... also, no one has cancelled the idea that she could also enjoy herself with toys or a dildo

 

[Dorfnutter]

Realistically I can definitely see her sleeping around as a fuck you to William. I dont think that would be out of character.

I'd argue it would be given how important her Nana was to her, so having her do that would only make sense if, say, at some point in her life she kinda faltered in that love because her hatred for her family is stronger (in which case that would likely be shown in a flashback while she was having a heart-to-heart with Orion during the Ulysses party, but that never happened so...). But given that it's shown that she likes to talk to her Nana via her cross, I don't think there ever was a case like that in the past.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

There really was no debate, just ChipLecsap thinking it was.

My brother Chip just hung out too much in badik, that's why he sees the world like that, but for him it's forgivable. I'll have to create something hot with Nova to calm him down

 

[Julius Kingsley]

or may be along the ride as Alex grown up, that fairy tale faded away , but now that The Guy showed up it reminded her to that memory and to that dream, and may be it was not a fairy tale.

Whether she had sex with someone before Orion or not, does not change any of this. He not became any less special, in fact this makes him more special , if he Arrived when Alex was long has given up on that dream , what I belive would been more fitting and mature for her character anyway.
and Frankly this was the vibe I get.

Finally an argument that really makes some sense and actually made me rethink. Well, that actually does make him and the whole thing more special.

 

[agrdtcwa]

I'd argue it would be given how important her Nana was to her, so having her do that would only make sense if, say, at some point in her life she kinda faltered in that love because her hatred for her family is stronger (in which case that would likely be shown in a flashback while she was having a heart-to-heart with Orion during the Ulysses party, but that never happened so...). But given that it's shown that she likes to talk to her Nana via her cross, I don't think there ever was a case like that in the past.

I guess its a culture thing. From my perspective, I dont think having casual sex is a big deal - you can bang people without being in love with them. Just because you sleep with someone does not mean its going to stop you from finding your prince charming or whatever in the future. Similarly just sleeping with a couple of people as a one off no strings attached sort of thing for whatever reason does not necessarily mean that it suddenly turns you into a slut who sleeps around every single day with strangers like some people here make it out to be.

And the idea of 'saving your virginity' for your prince charming does not make much sense to me either because its not like losing your virginity will prevent you from finding love in the future. In my playthrough Orion lost his virginity to Eva and he fucked Maat as well. But I dont think his I love you confessions to Annie, Alex, Nova etc are fake just because he slept with side girls with no strings attached in the past - it was just casual sex. Its no big deal and does not prevent him from finding true love in the future.

To me this is just one of those things that is going to be ambiguous and left to the player's imagination. Just make up your headcanon and go with what you want.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

Finally an argument that really makes some sense and actually made me rethink. Well, that actually does make him and the whole thing more special.

But again, she doesn't need to get pounded to realize they’re not what she was waiting for. So yeah, she’s still a virgin after all.

 

[agrdtcwa]

or may be along the ride as Alex grown up, that fairy tale faded away , but now that The Guy showed up it reminded her to that memory and to that dream, and may be it was not a fairy tale.

Whether she had sex with someone before Orion or not, does not change any of this. He not became any less special, in fact this makes him more special , if he Arrived when Alex was long has given up on that dream , what I belive would been more fitting and mature for her character anyway.
and Frankly this was the vibe I get.

This is exactly my thoughts about it. Except you explained it in a way thats significantly better