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do you plan on making the spouses, (adult) children, siblings etc. of npcs real and meetable at some point?
There are several obstacles to this.

#1 - The age of consent in Evil 2 is 16 years old. The child would have to be at least 16 years old before you would be allowed to interact with them.

#2 - How would you meet them exactly? I'm not saying it isn't possible but there needs to be a reason and purpose to it. I guess if you are dating someone and they have a 16+ year old child, then it would make sense.

#3 - The vast majority of children in the game are younger than 16 years old. Time goes by slowly in Evil 2 and you'd have to jump a lot of years in the future in order to interact with most children.

#4 - If players want to interact with children younger than 16 years old, there is no code to handle child interactions and child dialog. It would have to be developed from scratch. I'm not convinced it would be worth the time investment.

I'll have to think about this but I'm not sure it is worth adding a bunch of code to allow players to interact with children that are 16 years and older which are rare to begin with. I'm happy to listen to ideas and suggestions however.
 

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There are several obstacles to this.

#1 - The age of consent in Evil 2 is 16 years old. The child would have to be at least 16 years old before you would be allowed to interact with them.

#2 - How would you meet them exactly? I'm not saying it isn't possible but there needs to be a reason and purpose to it. I guess if you are dating someone and they have a 16+ year old child, then it would make sense.

#3 - The vast majority of children in the game are younger than 16 years old. Time goes by slowly in Evil 2 and you'd have to jump a lot of years in the future in order to interact with most children.

#4 - If players want to interact with children younger than 16 years old, there is no code to handle child interactions and child dialog. It would have to be developed from scratch. I'm not convinced it would be worth the time investment.

I'll have to think about this but I'm not sure it is worth adding a bunch of code to allow players to interact with children that are 16 years and older which are rare to begin with. I'm happy to listen to ideas and suggestions however.
I get plenty of NPCs with offspring aged 16 and older, below that they can and definitely should stay abstracted away and non-interactable.

The people in social circle already have the "ask for an appointment" action to meet other rich people. No reason to not have some "meet husband/wife/daughter/son" action with 1-2 lines of text - maybe use that as a basis to build some further blackmail/cuckold/threesome/etc options later on.

One problem this would also alleviate is that the only convenient way to meet new non-rich males for gang etc. is in the strip club which is somewhat limiting.

/add: It would also make the world feel more alive and connected. Married, children, sibling texts are basically meaningless fluff at this stage.
 
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I get plenty of NPCs with offspring aged 16 and older, below that they can and definitely should stay abstracted away and non-interactable.

The people in social circle already have the "ask for an appointment" action to meet other rich people. No reason to not have some "meet husband/wife/daughter/son" action with 1-2 lines of text - maybe use that as a basis to build some further blackmail/cuckold/threesome/etc options later on.

One problem this would also alleviate is that the only convenient way to meet new non-rich males for gang etc. is in the strip club which is somewhat limiting.

/add: It would also make the world feel more alive and connected. Married, children, sibling texts are basically meaningless fluff at this stage.
For now, I fixed it so that you can get male contacts from the Theatre also. I'm not sure why this was blocked before (there was no reason for it that I could see).

Keep in mind that I have a full plate until I release Part 2 of the 'Family Trouble' storyline on August 17th. Feature requests right now are going to be on hold unless they can be implemented quickly.

I should have another alpha build to release soon. I just need to test it a bit first...
 
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For now, I fixed it so that you can get male contacts from the Theatre also. I'm not sure why this was blocked before (there was no reason for it that I could see).
I think a lot of stuff was coded with gender and alignment conditionals copy and pasted so a number of the casual meet a stranger situations act as if you are being a flirt trying to pick up the target.
 

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Alpha build 4 - unpublished - the OP will not be updated.

Bug fix patch only. There are some debug messages in this build so if you come across any, give me steps to duplicate so I can reproduce it. You'll know since you'll get a pop-up message.

All reported bugs should be fixed with this build. Let me know if they aren't fixed. Please report any non-gang related bugs and I'll take a look at them.

You'll notice several changes and improvements to the legal businesses as I finished overhauling this portion of the game. I also rebalanced costs and earnings as it seemed unbalanced to me. Having a product store is no longer a complete waste of time and money. It is also easier to earn money from factories. Recruiting new employees is easier and there is no longer a lot of employees that want to quit for no reason (if pay is at least average or better).
 

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Hi, first of all ty for reviving this game, it's awesome!

I'm having an issue with the brothel, I'm sure it has been brought up before, but whores are not working, I have them assigned, I also assigned a maddam but it says clients visit and nothing

Sadly, 99 customers could not be satisfied.
99 clients have visited your brothel.

Am I missing something or is this some known issue?
 

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Hi, first of all ty for reviving this game, it's awesome!

I'm having an issue with the brothel, I'm sure it has been brought up before, but whores are not working, I have them assigned, I also assigned a maddam but it says clients visit and nothing

Sadly, 99 customers could not be satisfied.
99 clients have visited your brothel.

Am I missing something or is this some known issue?
You should slap the shit out of Your whores to make them suck harder, dude)
 
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Hi is this version still similar to original Evil 2 with shemale transformation disabled?
This is answered in both the 'Overview' and 'FAQ' on the OP. I updated them both personally and the entire OP has been updated and is correct.
 
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Hi, first of all ty for reviving this game, it's awesome!

I'm having an issue with the brothel, I'm sure it has been brought up before, but whores are not working, I have them assigned, I also assigned a maddam but it says clients visit and nothing

Sadly, 99 customers could not be satisfied.
99 clients have visited your brothel.

Am I missing something or is this some known issue?
Brothel whores/slaves have been working for me. Have you tried visiting the brothel in the red district and convince each of them to work harder? Do this once a day for a week and they will be at maximum motivation.

If this doesn't work, please attach a save game for me to review.

Make sure your game is fully updated and you are using the Alpha Build 4 posted above.
 
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Brothel whores/slaves have been working for me. Have you tried visiting the brothel in the red district and convince each of them to work harder? Do this once a day for a week and they will be at maximum motivation.

If this doesn't work, please attach a save game for me to review.

Make sure your game is fully updated and you are using the Alpha Build 4 posted above.
I was noticing the same issue with brothels as well - didn't test out the motivation though so that could have been my issue too. For me, only about 4 or 5 of my whores were consistently working even though I had about 10 in the brothel. Will try what you suggested about motivation once per day for a week and see if that solves it.

Also - thank you for rebalancing the legal businesses! I'd tried them in most of my playthroughs but to your point, they always just seemed like a waste of money. I get that the point of the game is to reward the player for being evil, but it's still nice to have options. :)
 
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Read the 'Requirements' section on the OP. It will answer your question.
Wait so is it completely eliminated like Evil 2 or just disabled as a starting option? Because I think the problem many had with Evil 2 was disabling shemale transformation in entirety, if it's just starting option disabled I think no one would have a problem.
 

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not really gamebreaking, but for some reason I started getting these messages when I started the new Alpha build 4 (the save I used is from Alpha build 3).
 

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not really gamebreaking, but for some reason I started getting these messages when I started the new Alpha build 4 (the save I used is from Alpha build 3).
Yea, my bad. I was working on the 'Family Trouble' storyline and hadn't closed off my 'if' statements yet with an 'end'.
 

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I was noticing the same issue with brothels as well - didn't test out the motivation though so that could have been my issue too. For me, only about 4 or 5 of my whores were consistently working even though I had about 10 in the brothel. Will try what you suggested about motivation once per day for a week and see if that solves it.

Also - thank you for rebalancing the legal businesses! I'd tried them in most of my playthroughs but to your point, they always just seemed like a waste of money. I get that the point of the game is to reward the player for being evil, but it's still nice to have options. :)
For your information, the motivation has a lower maximum, if the girl is married, if she has a job or if she is still a student. Moreover, do more than one motivation a day, just to have fun :cool:

And yes, legal activities (when I fixed them) were meant to be less interesting than illegal activities. Only the factory can be very profitable, but you have to invest time and caps in it ! :p

PS : I don't have try the 0.56beta, but I try actually the 0.55beta and it is a very good version ==> Well done Noobtrain ! ;)
 

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Evil 2 - Version 0.57 - QSP Update only

I'll do a full changelog once I release Part 2 of the 'Family Trouble' storyline on August 17th. This is a bug fix patch only (0.55 Beta base game is still required and is the only required file/version for this update). I feel it is stable enough to remove the alpha and beta status from the version number.

All player reported bugs should be fixed.

Save games older than version 0.55 Beta won't be compatible. You may experience some bugs the first several days in-game. Try running this console command if you run into issues (it may take up to a week in-game for all the new code to be read in fully):

gs'dyn' & gs'dyn2'

The OP has been fully updated and everything on it is correct to the best of my knowledge. I added more info to the FAQ. I also updated the console command list in the 'Developer Notes/FAQ'. There are a few new ones that players have requested.

Want to prep any NPC to accept being a whore?

dynamic $d_instant_whore

Want to send that high society bitch to the farm and train her as a slave?

dynamic $d_kidnap

Progress is going well towards the next major update (scheduled for August 17th). I am still working hard on it. The story portion of the update is 90% completed - coding 50% completed - asset development (pictures and videos) 40% completed.
 
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