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So like, is it fun to lose?
I've updated a new version to my Patreon/GD, mainly lowering the game difficulty and adding game instructions. You can give it a try.

 
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I understand that there are people who do not want to accept the existence of neural network content as creativity. But I will try to give an example from my life to convey my idea and possibly change your opinion. I work as an educator, and I had a time when I worked at a college. Among the directions there is a CNC worker, which stands for "computer numerical control." This is a machine that is controlled by a computer using a special program. The movements of the machine (movement of the working parts, speed, feed, etc.) are set not by the operator manually, but by a pre-written program containing numerical data. This data, commonly referred to as G-code, tells the machine how to move, what operations to perform, and at what speed. The principle of operation of such a machine is the same as that of neural network generation.But for some reason, most people don't want to make this analogy, citing various reasons. For example, someone might refer to the creative aspect, saying that AI is working for them. However, as I mentioned in another post, the neural network does not set its own tasks or prompts; this is done by the operator. And technically, using a neural network is like using another tool, and you can even create your own model for generation, just like the game's creator made the OG character and likely has a custom model for it.
P.S. while writing the post I received your message that you do not agree with my comparison, and used a rude expression in my address. I regard your messages as deliberately rude, and arguing with you is a useless occupation, since you are stubborn as a ram. As for the engineers, I consulted with them about AI, and they agree with my point of view, but since there are so many people with so many opinions.
P.S.S. If you are a hypocritical supporter of "true creativity", you may leave your "valuable opinion" under games with "real porn" tag, when people use stolen videos for game as NSFW assets. I'm pretty sure you might like Fapocalipse developer.
So, you think rolling dice is creative? Randomness is equivalent to purposeful creativity? Sure, see how far you get with that chief. You're trying to compare CNC machine running code, which is a semi-automated but is still knowable and predictable thing to a machinist, to the unknowable black box of a probabilistic image generator. Does the CNC code need to be train on millions of other stolen piece of work to get it's job done? No. Are people using CNC machines by simply text prompting it for 'make me Garfield with tits' and walking away with no other input? No. A CNC machinist has a very specific end-goal they are trying to create. That end goal is the project files that were already created before anyone goes near a CNC machine. If the machine or the the machinist makes a mistake, you can stop and learn from your mistakes. Maybe the machine can't reach to make a particular cut with the current setup, so you have the machinist on hand who knows what they are doing to correct that.

None of this is analogous to LLM's or image generators. Text prompts are not analogous to an artist's brush; they're analogous to an art director telling his artists what they want to see. Is an art director the person responsible for the art the people working for them create? Do they get to slap their name on the work of others and take credit for it? Hell no! Prompting Gen-AI is not art, it is commissioning work. It's seems clear that both you and everyone else you claimed to have talked to have ZERO education in the humanities. You've never taken an art or philosophy class in your life. I'm sure Plato's allegory of the cave would blow your fucking mind.

Also, yes, using real porn can be more or less creative. The dev using it is not the one making the porn, so how do they show creativity? By showing how much work they put into selecting the images, and how well they use them. A lot of real porn games are very uncreative, with a cavalcade of random animated GIF's with no rhyme or reason. But not all of them. Some creators have in-depth narratives, dedicating specific actresses to the characters in their story. Now they're beholden to find specific matching clips of real people, and they're limited by the scenes they have available to them (e.g. if Alexis Fawxs has never dressed up in cosplay for a scene, then you can't do a scene where your assigned character does, without breaking kayfabe). The creativity is on how much work they put into using those clips well. If they're going to have a character go to a gym, can they get clips of the actress fucking in a gym? If not, then maybe in something that looks like a communal shower? Something gym adjacent? How does the writer work around those limitations, so that the available assets mesh well with the story they want to tell; and how well do they stick that landing? At the end of the day, is that a means to be creative? Absolutely! Doing that well requires far more work, thoughtfulness, and intentionality than just prompting an image generator and asking for exactly what you want. The fact you'd try to denigrate that and use it as a cheap gotcha, belies once again your complete lack of education in the humanities. You seemingly, fundamentally, do not understand creativity. Which is par for the course with Gen-AI boosters. It's why you don't ask hogs at the trough for their opinions on the culinary arts.
 
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