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Alleykatt

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Maybe I didn't quite understand the question. I meant that the Wife's behavior will change depending on your decisions.
Ah, OK. I thought your statement "You going to do the boning" meant that only the MC (husband) would get to fuck the wife. But maybe I misunderstood.

For the record, though I prefer my NTR to be female led, sharing (of the type in Deliverance, where it is instigated by the husband) is also good.
 

defd©™

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Thank you for your good advice.
you are welcome ;) ... but don't forget this is your story... and when you finish this you can start a new different story..
as I understand you have also a lot of short stories that are included in the basic version...

maybe some of those short stories will become a new game some day?

... you can also add new characters in this one to expand the story with some thrilling situation
to add a kidnapping case where Steve has to investigate and maybe ... and in the meantime Nicole in her job as an office lady may be involved in blackmail situations only to discover that the case of the kidnappers are involved with the company where Nicole works...
I think that the story is very important and even if the couple loves swinging and fetish NTR or cheating there must be a reason to justify that they love each other and the fact that they also love to have sex with others too but they will be loyal and will always tell the truth about their adventures

surely it's not the tags that make a game successful or not.. you can use also NTR BDSM or whatever you like but only if the story is well written and the female character is lovely (you have a very lovely Nicole) the game will be a success (also renders are not so important when the story is good)

I think today the trend is create more episodes with the main successfull characters (like Chloe18 that have a lot of of sequels and spinoff)

the main thing is create one great character that people will love.
I think the secret to expand your supporters is create one or two characters that they will love.

this requires time and patience but if your female (or male) character enters in the hearts and in the pants ;) of the audience .. surely your supporters will grow

Good Luck
 

demidemon

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This is the same problem I keep trying to explain to people over...and over again. There is a fundamental breakdown in communications on the basic concept of cuckold as it pertains to the fetish.

You cannot use proper dictionaries as references to define a fetish instead of practical modern usage of a given word, to say it’s an antiquated definition is putting it lightly…and yet it’s common place around here.

I’m sure dictionary.com and Cambridge and oxford dictionaries will provide a very incorrect and incomplete definition of words like: extra, bet, fire, cap, shade, lit, lewk, lowkey, flex, periodt, wig, fit, slay, salty, shook, thirsty, yeet …and the list goes on and on and on…That word list becomes even more inaccurate when you start getting into sexual slang in a culturally puritan proper society like America and then dictionary references become even less accurate then ever.

There is a very big difference between traditional 1.) cuckoldry/cuckold (cheating deceptively and often laughing behind your back), 2.) cuckold as a fetish (prevalent within the last 20 years and more accurately a form of swinging) and 3.) calling someone a cuck (highly offensive and derogatory term). Three VERY VERY different meanings. Heck it took decades for proper dictionaries to add the word "cool" to mean anything other than temperature reference, and that word has been being used slang for 60 years.

Look at the word fuck. It can mean dozens of completely different and opposite things and can be a verb, noun or adjective. Same with shit and many other words.
Example:
"It’s fucking awesome watching people get fucked up on vodka who then go fuck people up for getting in their way for trying to fuck their wives when all they had to do was ask if they could fuck them."

Putting cuckold fetish into any relation or sub-genre to proper NTR is akin to putting anal and oral in the same category because they are not the proper definition of sex(ual intercourse). Proper NTR (or Netorare) is just plain different from cuckold as a fetish. But NTR is very good at replacing the traditional and proper term of cuckoldry.. and that is where the basic fundamental problem arises. Not everyone has realized NTR has replaced the antiquated proper terminology as the times have changed to differentiate the two, but that does not mean one can sub for the other. Much the same way that you will not find a lesbian game in this site that uses the gay tag here, even though technically and proper term, gay would be a correct tag. Furry and beast both also mean very different things as well as many other terms. You can say 100% of the tags are all related because they are all sexual in nature if you want to look at it that way, and some are more related than others, but it is misleading and offensive to many to blindly label fetishes in the wrong category and that is where most of peoples beef lies with 99% of this entire “NTR war”.



I’ll leave it with this. The English language is a motherfucker, and that’s before anyone even gets to the slang part of it all. So here is an image for your brain to pop while you ponder…. Or maybe I’m just shook and salty.



TLDR: This is just another attempt to explain the difference between cuckold and cuckold, so now you can carry on to your safe space and skip this rant. You’re welcome.
I agree with you that there's no way you can simply replace a japanese word with an english word
but your understanding of NTR and cheating seems completely off to me
and the reason why I need to bring up an answer from a japanese native speaker, a dictionary or vndb.org is because I'm trying to let you know that "NTR/Netorare" is way closer to cuckold than cheating in meaning.

If you are cheating, it means you are having an affair. If you are in a relationship but are forced or blackmailed to have sex with someone else, you are not cheating you are being raped.

For NTR, the protagonist's love interest would be having sex with someone else.
 
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Budokai

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Loving it, looking forward to future releases.
Am i the only one finding some resemblance to Anne Hathaway in girl? Totally diggin it! Too bad she is not maintaining the bosom from the original... Hehe
 
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matthww

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Apparently there are 2 types of ""NTR"" lovers. 1 - the guy who likes sharing without submission (more like a swinger); 2 - the guy who likes sharing with submissive elements (more like a cuckold). I really don't see why the dev would have to choose a single path, if he can explore both niches

If i creating contents on these two routes, it would be (in corruption order):
1 - Swinger couple
1st - exhibitionism
2nd - sharing, rarely watching
3rd - swinging
4th - dominant\versatile MC

2 - cuckold couple
1st - exhibitionism
2nd - sharing the wife with a bull and predominantly watching
3rd - size matters
4th - submissive swinger (like a swing that the MC only watches)


I really think that few contents separate a swinger couple and a cuckold couple. For swingers there are no bulls, the fetish is simply sharing and swinging without submissive competition.

For cucks, submission and bulls are a important element. But in this case, submission is not what we are used to seeing in pornography: cheating, blackmail, etc. It's more like encouraging your wife to have sex with bulls, accepting that she will, sexually, prefer them to you and, finally, having a more secondary role in threesomes and swings. Something like watching, oral sex, dirty talks, kissing, touching and sometimes fuck.
 
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Please add the possibility to change the James of the Protagonists!
Very good Game but at the Moment i cant See that any decision influences the Story in any way
 

Guter Reiter

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Apparently there are 2 types of ""NTR"" lovers. 1 - the guy who likes sharing without submission (more like a swinger); 2 - the guy who likes sharing with submissive elements (more like a cuckold). I really don't see why the dev would have to choose a single path, if he can explore both niches

If i creating contents on these two routes, it would be (in corruption order):
1 - Swinger couple
1st - exhibitionism
2nd - sharing, rarely watching
3rd - swinging
4th - dominant\versatile MC

2 - cuckold couple
1st - exhibitionism
2nd - sharing the wife with a bull and predominantly watching
3rd - size matters
4th - submissive swinger (like a swing that the MC only watches)


I really think that few contents separate a swinger couple and a cuckold couple. For swingers there are no bulls, the fetish is simply sharing and swinging without submissive competition.

For cucks, submission and bulls are a important element. But in this case, submission is not what we are used to seeing in pornography: cheating, blackmail, etc. It's more like encouraging your wife to have sex with bulls, accepting that she will, sexually, prefer them to you and, finally, having a more secondary role in threesomes and swings. Something like watching, oral sex, dirty talks, kissing, touching and sometimes fuck.
It makes sense, I'll think about it. Anyway, first of all this game is about finding new sensations and fetishes. I don't want to focus on one topic.
 
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Guter Reiter

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Please add the possibility to change the James of the Protagonists!
Very good Game but at the Moment i cant See that any decision influences the Story in any way
Each decision will give its result. It's just still in the future. However, you should not wait for the branching of the plot as in visual novels built on sprites. In the case of the game built on the render, each new path multiplies the amount of work by two. As far as possible I will try to do it but within reasonable limits.
 

matthww

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It makes sense, I'll think about it. Anyway, first of all this game is about finding new sensations and fetishes. I don't want to focus on one topic.
I typed this in because the guys are hating each other in the comments and because I think it's possible to embrace a compromise that is good for everyone
I don't know if you follow other threads, it's always like that. At some point, one party leaves disappointed with the game because the dev prioritized one path over the other
 

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I agree with you that there's no way you can simply replace a japanese word with an english word
but your understanding of NTR and cheating seems completely off to me
and the reason why I need to bring up an answer from a japanese native speaker, a dictionary or vndb.org is because I'm trying to let you know that "NTR/Netorare" is way closer to cuckold than cheating in meaning.

If you are cheating, it means you are having an affair. If you are in a relationship but are forced or blackmailed to have sex with someone else, you are not cheating you are being raped.

For NTR, the protagonist's love interest would be having sex with someone else.

Well I never claimed to be any kind of expert on Japanese language, so if you are a native speaker you are one who would know much better. But what I can tell you, is that the vast majority of translations to English are pretty much in line with what I stated ( ). Weather or not that is the best translation to how you understand it, means less over what it has become accepted as I guess is what I mean. It wouldn't be the first time a foreign language has adapted and tweaked anothers language word as their cultures own interpretation, it certainly won't be the last time it happens either.
 
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