VN Ren'Py Completed Exploring the Big Apple [Ep.7] [Dimajio333]

[xcalibar4]

Here, I posted about it previously.

I think Emma started to fantasize about Martin from Day 1 in any less than pure route. Even in pure route she does things and hide things from Patrick. She is more honest and open in cuck route (even the route selection is way later) but even in that route she hides things from Patrick.

I think dimajio333 is good in writing from bull perspective for a cuckold couple like Lost in Paradise bull route. But in every other game it's always the FMC is like closet slut and closet is stuck in the ceiling and the moment the FMC sees another man's dick they will fall from there right into dick.

I agree with others that dimajio333 couple is a cuck and hotwife couple in most games but to me it's like all those Amazon hotwife stories where the wife wants to have cake and eat it to and to do that they will do anything to reel the hubby into cuckolding and if he didn't get reeled in then she will just cheat.

Also isn't refusing hubby his relief or cage him falls into humiliation? His every game has this, where hubby is waiting for wife while she is fucking somebody/anybody and it's implied he can't have the pussy. I have read/played few cuck theme games from jap what I liked in them it clearly shows the wife giving hubby a handjob while reporting it and when he comes she will tell "oh I thought you will last longer and you get to reclaim the pussy but now I may have to go the bull again to get satisfied" and hubby gets another erection and with a playful smile she tells "I see someone is excited to hear it, oh you're so hopeless, what would I do with you" and then happily rides him. But the western devs always tries NTS, cuck or sharing (even swinging) games get more into humiliation side.

 

[Noviush]

I'm on day three of the game and I fully support psychedevil and xcalibar4's posts. From personal experience, I know that "open-minded" marriages require complete honesty, trust and loyalty . When secrets appear, hiding one's own feelings, fulfilling hidden fantasies behind the partner's back - this definitely leads to the end of the relationship.

I don't know how big the percentage of guys who like to feel lied to, humiliated and ignored is, but personally I have the impression that it is quite small. And this is the main thread of dimajio333's games.

If dimajio333 wanted to create a path with true Sharing, then first of all, both spouses have to be 100% honest with each other, act TOGETHER, and be the most important to each other.

This is what I miss most in dimajio333's games. There are too many lies, cheating and deception. And there is a lack of honesty and trust in them. Yes, many men fantasize about their wife having sex with another man, but very few of them want to be left out and humiliated while doing so.

In my opinion, the Sharing path should look like this:
When MC and Emma notice Martin's interest, they should both have the option to choose whether Emma will tease him and to what extent. Whether they decide to take it further, whether MC wants to be present, and both should discuss it with Martin. Anything else leads to the Cuckolding/Cheating path.

Edidt:
I finished day 12 on the Sharing path. Emma hides most of what happened between her and Martin, no mention of fingering in the jacuzzi or morning cunnilingus. She lied that she stopped Martin after kissing her buttchick. That's not SHARING, that's CUCKOLDING/CHEATING.

 

[Adamska]

So are we going to get to murder Martin at some point, or should I stop checking back in on this one?

 

[Dessolos]

So are we going to get to murder Martin at some point, or should I stop checking back in on this one?

I mean the next update is the final update , so if you played all the content might as well play the next update even if you don't get what you want but otherwise yeah if you don't like something might as well just drop it.

 

[Adamska]

I mean the next update is the final update

I'm joking and will be playing (but also want a murder Martin DLC).

 

[psychedevil]

I think Emma started to fantasize about Martin from Day 1 in any less than pure route. Even in pure route she does things and hide things from Patrick. She is more honest and open in cuck route (even the route selection is way later) but even in that route she hides things from Patrick.

From personal experience, I know that "open-minded" marriages require complete honesty and trust. When secrets appear, hiding one's own feelings, fulfilling hidden fantasies behind the partner's back - this definitely leads to the end of the relationship.

I don't know how big the percentage of guys who like to feel lied to, humiliated and ignored is, but personally I have the impression that it is quite small. And this is the main thread of dimajio333's games. If dimajio333 wanted to create a path with true sharing, then first of all, both spouses have to be 100% honest with each other, act TOGETHER, and be the most important to each other.

This got me thinking that there would be no need for the plot device of a secret camera or a camera that was left on by accident in these kinds of games, to where the MC has to somehow react in order to prevent his female partner from doing something or allowing something to happen, if the story was not slanted toward his female partner otherwise failing to maintain appropriate boundaries with another man.

 

[Noviush]

I realize this is an NTR game, but I'm only talking about the Sharing path. We have other paths to choose from, Cheating, Cuckolding, Hotwifing...
By choosing the Sharing path, I'd like to not feel like my partner is a deranged nymphomaniac trying to humiliate me as much as possible.
Again, from my own experience, Sharing, while maintaining loyalty, openness and trust between partners can be more exciting.

On a completely different note, why does the MC in dimajio333's games always have a smaller penis???

Back to the game:
Day 14
- Interview. Emma left out the most essential (sexual) part when she talked to MC. She's lying to him again.
- Threesome with Martin after the photoshoot. MC basically acts as a background, he licked Emma and had very brief intercourse with her, 80% of the sex was between Emma and Martin. After such a threesome I would have a very serious conversation with my partner, if I didn't pull her out of Martin by the hair...

 

[Justaphase]

On a completely different note, why does the MC in dimajio333's games always have a smaller penis???

It's to please the cuckold or hotwife enjoyers, who prefer to see the wife or girlfriend getting fucked by a guy with a bigger dick. It usually goes along with the trope of the husband or boyfriend being unable to satisfy them.

 

[psychedevil]

It's to please the cuckold or hotwife enjoyers, who prefer to see the wife or girlfriend getting fucked by a guy with a bigger dick. It usually goes along with the trope of the husband or boyfriend being unable to satisfy them.

Yup, we all know from porn that the man with the biggest dick invariably provides women with the most sexual pleasure. It's even true for AVN games like Exploring the Big Apple, Because I Love Her, The Adventurous Couple, and Paradise City, where the MC does not have a smaller than average penis; it's just that his dick is not quite as big as some other guy's, which of course makes all the difference.

It's rare among AVN games for there to be any kind of consideration among women about how the ideal penis size for them may not be on the larger end (or rather how a larger size may even be uncomfortable), or about all the other things that can increase sexual excitement and satisfaction that have nothing to do with penis size (or having a penis for that matter).

Having sex with someone new can increase excitement merely due to the novelty of the experience and being desired by someone different, and that alone is something that any long-term partner will lack in comparison.

 

[Noviush]

Okay, I've finished the current update in two paths: Sharing and Vanilla.
Sharing, as I wrote earlier, has too much of the Cheating/Cuckold vibe. Emma constantly hides most of the juicy parts from the MC. She's more of the dominant side who subjugates her partner. All the threesomes with Martin are focused on him and not her husband. She takes too many liberties behind her husband's back, despite his consent.
Vanilla is again too... vanilla. And even though she doesn't have any sexual action with other guys, she still keeps most of the juicy parts a secret from her husband. It seems that every path in this game is supposed to make her a cheating bitch who supposedly loves her husband but has no respect or trust for him.

As for the MC, just like in other dimajio333 games I've played, he's a complexed mama's boy who has no idea how to act with a woman. Too bad, because the possibilities of this story are really big.

 

[psychedevil]

All the threesomes with Martin are focused on him and not her husband. She takes too many liberties behind her husband's back, despite his consent. Vanilla is again too... vanilla. And even though she doesn't have any sexual action with other guys, she still keeps most of the juicy parts a secret from her husband. It seems that every path in this game is supposed to make her a cheating bitch who supposedly loves her husband but has no respect or trust for him.

The husband-and-wife scenes are made less exciting due to being briefer and not including animations. The only time that sex is animated on any route is when Martin is having sex with Emma, and even in the "threesome" scenes, the only part that's animated is when it's Emma and Martin; when it's Patrick and Emma, there is no animated component, and as you noted, Martin gets about 80% of the action (including uninvited anal). Emma and Martin are even animated while exercising together! Also, if one sticks to the "vanilla" path, there are altogether less sex scenes. Thus, the "vanilla" route is placed in a position of being less interesting due to the sex scenes being briefer, less frequent, and less animated.

The moving-in threesome creates an especially stark contrast: By the time her husband walks upstairs to find them on moving day, Emma has already given Martin a vigorous blowjob downstairs and then is in the middle of receiving vertical cunnilingus from Martin in their upstairs bedroom. So despite never having sexually interacted with another man outside of her husband's presence, she can't wait until he gets back from returning a rental car to start a sexual encounter with Martin.

And yes, even on the monogamous path, Emma is walking in her underwear in the hallway (and falls in front of Martin's dick), peeking into Martin's bedroom while he masturbates, wearing a skimpy bikini for a photoshoot, allowing Martin to place his dick between her ass cheeks without saying anything, and getting into a hot tub with two men naked, none of which she shares with her husband. Then after all that, Emma again leaves their bedroom at Martin's home only in her underwear and stops to converse with him in the hallway as he's obviously gawking at her and comments about how lucky he is to have caught her dressed like that (which who knows how long would have continued if not interrupted by Patrick).

 

[xcalibar4]

I always find it funny with MMC lead NTR games specially if it's mystery NTR or Sharing/Cuckold genre, where the MMC's decision leads to his SO fall into another man. Like if there is no porn logic in it then what happened to the wife/gf brain, Before her fall every decision is made by hubby, after fall every decision is made by bull!!

Games that uses porn logic in somewhat believable way is much more enjoyable like Hard Days. SAO parody is also a great example where it uses porn logic to max.

I came across NTR/Cuck genre way later as extension to corruption genre. Though I read NTR themed manga before but most of them were from female pov so I guess it's not much of NTR/Cuck in that sense. And as a fap material manga/comics are good with 1-2 line thought bubble compared to VN's large essay thoughts.

In the 90s there were more swinger erotic movies where innocent couples slowly joins the circle, because it's a movie things needs to happen fast but even the bad ones have some pacing and good ones had drama, corruption, fallout, reconciliation. I came from this swinger genre to full NTR and later cuck genre and played some jap VN's like My GF is Blue Collar Worker. As a NTR VN it showed consequences for both hubby and wife. And I really liked it (though it had too much text and buildup).

Sorry my thoughts are spilling everywhere, I am not good with words like psychedevil but the thing is if a swinger genre movie can pull out sex scene, drama, fallout, reconciliation in 1 and half hour why can't western VN. I know reading takes much more time but complete VN's huge in most cases 7-8 hours at-least. One can argue that the swinger couple has swinging tendencies from beginning but it still spice things up with drama.

 

[fbass]

The husband-and-wife scenes are made less exciting due to being briefer and not including animations. The only time that sex is animated on any route is when Martin is having sex with Emma, and even in the "threesome" scenes, the only part that's animated is when it's Emma and Martin; when it's Patrick and Emma, there is no animated component, and as you noted, Martin gets about 80% of the action (including uninvited anal). Emma and Martin are even animated while exercising together! Also, if one sticks to the "vanilla" path, there are altogether less sex scenes. Thus, the "vanilla" route is placed in a position of being less interesting due to the sex scenes being briefer, less frequent, and less animated.

The moving-in threesome creates an especially stark contrast: By the time her husband walks upstairs to find them on moving day, Emma has already given Martin a vigorous blowjob downstairs and then is in the middle of receiving vertical cunnilingus from Martin in their upstairs bedroom. So despite never having sexually interacted with another man outside of her husband's presence, she can't wait until he gets back from returning a rental car to start a sexual encounter with Martin.

And yes, even on the monogamous path, Emma is walking in her underwear in the hallway (and falls in front of Martin's dick), peeking into Martin's bedroom while he masturbates, wearing a skimpy bikini for a photoshoot, allowing Martin to place his dick between her ass cheeks without saying anything, and getting into a hot tub with two men naked, none of which she shares with her husband. Then after all that, Emma again leaves their bedroom at Martin's home only in her underwear and stops to converse with him in the hallway as he's obviously gawking at her and comments about how lucky he is to have caught her dressed like that (which who knows how long would have continued if not interrupted by Patrick).

What you're saying is correct but I see all of that as a good thing in an NTR focused game.

 

[xert13]

Yup, we all know from porn that the man with the biggest dick invariably provides women with the most sexual pleasure. It's even true for AVN games like Exploring the Big Apple, Because I Love Her, The Adventurous Couple, and Paradise City, where the MC does not have a smaller than average penis; it's just that his dick is not quite as big as some other guy's, which of course makes all the difference.

It's rare among AVN games for there to be any kind of consideration among women about how the ideal penis size for them may not be on the larger end (or rather how a larger size may even be uncomfortable), or about all the other things that can increase sexual excitement and satisfaction that have nothing to do with penis size (or having a penis for that matter).

Having sex with someone new can increase excitement merely due to the novelty of the experience and being desired by someone different, and that alone is something that any long-term partner will lack in comparison.

The reason, I believe, the penis size is so prevalent in these adult VNs is twofold: First it preys on male insecurity and second, it is much easier to blame dick size then personality or overall attraction. Apart from a small minority of women, penis size, unless abnormally small, does not the quality of sex make. Unlike men, women are not quite as visually oriented- a man’s personality and how he makes her feel is of more import to a woman than whether he has a 10 inch wang. In fact, many women find oversized penis- I’m talking the Mammoth sizes you see in pornos and VNs as painful and NOT enjoyable. Yet, the trope continues. Another reason it is so prevalent is that it is easier to film and/or depict visually. The average penis size is 5.5 inches. Much easier to visually show a 10 incher making a connection than an average size.

 

[Gato negro]

bro this is a game. why y'all acting like its real. Do any of you would do what you're talking about in real life? Personally i enjoy ntr games. But i'd never bring any of this fantasies in my life. I'd knock the shit out if someone look the same as i am to my gf or wife.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Sorry my thoughts are spilling everywhere, I am not good with words like psychedevil but the thing is if a swinger genre movie can pull out sex scene, drama, fallout, reconciliation in 1 and half hour why can't western VN.

On the contrary, I'd theorize the themes captured in avn games are heavily influenced by eastern tropes, and this is the driving force behind the paradigm you're describing. The concept of strict social hierarchies is MUCH more common in eastern media, where we see absolute rules on who's in control and who wields power. (this is ofc excluding western ir-cuckoldry, where those same strict social dynamics are rigidly enforced by the authors)

IMO the reason you see less fluidity in swinger/sharing/cuckold/group sex western games is because the playerbase of these games is usually comprised of swinging fans, general corruption fans, ntr fans, and fem protag fans. Of those 4 subgroups only the first wants what you're describing, the other three are very much okay with the rigid format of "wife gets corrupted, because a whore for every preselected alpha male character."



Separately, does anyone know if the next update is planning on being the last? Or are there two more to wrap things up?

 

[666terror666]

Here, 666terror666, I posted about it previously.

thank you

 

[packard1928]

Not much chatter on the game ... been out for 5 days...

 

[Ashira13]

Not much chatter on the game ... been out for 5 days...

are you sure you are posting in the right thread?

 

[packard1928]

are you sure you are posting in the right thread?

I guess it was a status that was not posted here... on his patreon