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Big Rooster

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Please, don't invoke that dark juju here, dimajio doesn't abandon games - even games he clearly got tired of.
I was being facetious, but both games went awol, at the same time... Although I can understand both of the developers struggles, because I know it's a shit-ton of work making these games, without insurance of any return on investment.
 
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In terms of physical attractiveness alone, I think it's a close call between Julia from Pineapple Express and Emma from Exploring the Big Apple. Of course, there will be people who prefer the physical characteristics of one versus the other (such as hair color/style, facial features, breast size, body shape, skin tone, etc.), but I think that it's altogether a close call.

However, I feel that Julia has a sexier personality, which makes her overall hotter than Emma. Julia is better at teasing and says things that are more of a turn-on than Emma, and with the exception of the cheating path, I also find that Julia is more comforting in expressing her feelings toward the MC. However, even on the cheating path, Julia cheats in part in response to the actions of the MC, and she does not conceal her cheating for long and ultimately demands honest communication; whereas along the cheating path for Emma, she thus far has concealed all sexual interactions with Martin from her husband.
You know when it comes to Emma VS Julia it's weird for me I do think Julia has a better personality and more appealing sexually to me. But there is something about the way Emma acts I can't quite put my finger on that makes me prefer her and I don't even know why or what it is. Kind of bugs me tbh.
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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You know when it comes to Emma VS Julia it's weird for me I do think Julia has a better personality and more appealing sexually to me. But there is something about the way Emma acts I can't quite put my finger on that makes me prefer her and I don't even know why or what it is. Kind of bugs me tbh.
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In looking across Pineapple Express and Exploring the Big Apple, another thing that bothers me is in regard to the character development of the FMC (Julia and Emma), specifically, their willingness to do things with other men that they were not willing to do with their partner. In both PE and ETBA, the FMC allows a man from outside of their relationship to have anal sex with them when they were not willing to do this with their partner. This makes little sense from the standpoint of fairness and wanting to please one's partner, but it also makes little practical sense, as the men who they gave their anal virginity to are noted as having a larger penis than their partner has. Also, in PE in particular, Julia is described as not having been very enthusiastic about giving her partner blowjobs, yet she is very enthusiastic about giving Cornell blowjobs.

I'm guessing the story-consistent answer for why this happens is supposed to be that these other men bring behaviors out of them which their partners did not. Besides not making sense from a fairness and practical perspective, however, their choice to be selective in displaying certain behaviors to where their partner is excluded would undoubtedly affect the excitement of their partner in bed. What I mean is that if they're less energetic about performing certain behaviors with their partner (such as giving a blowjob) or are less willing to be sexually adventurous or try new things with their partner (such as anal sex), then this without a doubt would affect the sexual excitement that their partner would experience, which in the moment and over time could result in their partner not being as passionate in bed as they otherwise would be.

Beyond that, in both games the MC and FMC do not have a discussion about if anything is off limits in sharing with others. Without discussion or hesitation, the FMC allows another man/other men to cum inside of her, have anal sex with her, and engage in double penetration with her. So although the FMC may make it out to be like she's willing to do things with other men to fulfill her partner's kink, her primary focus clearly seems to shift from wanting to please her partner to wanting to please another man/other men (and of course herself).
 

psychedevil

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Wow. thanks for this detailed answer. i didn't expect that. I like PE better, but unfortunately the end is over too quickly. I hope this game gets a remastered version or a sequel. I think it would be very well received.
You're welcome! I'm glad you appreciated my response.

Pineapple Express has grown on me over time, despite some initial and continuing reservations. I initially deleted it from my computer after my first time playing it, but then I ended up downloading it again and keeping it. In thinking about it now, I did the same thing with Exploring the Big Apple. Generally speaking, I also have had to warm up somewhat to NTR-focused AVNs, in part by learning to ignore or minimize some of the typical tropes/aspects that I tend to dislike.
 
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I mentioned this a while back. I think the developer should take the 3wives from his last games and have them meet up for some fun time. They could introduce the other women to their bull. It could be a one off. No developing story no corruption just straight to the fun times
 

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In looking across Pineapple Express and Exploring the Big Apple, another thing that bothers me is in regard to the character development of the FMC (Julia and Emma), specifically, their willingness to do things with other men that they were not willing to do with their partner. In both PE and ETBA, the FMC allows a man from outside of their relationship to have anal sex with them when they were not willing to do this with their partner. This makes little sense from the standpoint of fairness and wanting to please one's partner, but it also makes little practical sense, as the men who they gave their anal virginity to are noted as having a larger penis than their partner has. Also, in PE in particular, Julia is described as not having been very enthusiastic about giving her partner blowjobs, yet she is very enthusiastic about giving Cornell blowjobs.

I'm guessing the story-consistent answer for why this happens is supposed to be that these other men bring behaviors out of them which their partners did not. Besides not making sense from a fairness and practical perspective, however, their choice to be selective in displaying certain behaviors to where their partner is excluded would undoubtedly affect the excitement of their partner in bed. What I mean is that if they're less energetic about performing certain behaviors with their partner (such as giving a blowjob) or are less willing to be sexually adventurous or try new things with their partner (such as anal sex), then this without a doubt would affect the sexual excitement that their partner would experience, which in the moment and over time could result in their partner not being as passionate in bed as they otherwise would be.

Beyond that, in both games the MC and FMC do not have a discussion about if anything is off limits in sharing with others. Without discussion or hesitation, the FMC allows another man/other men to cum inside of her, have anal sex with her, and engage in double penetration with her. So although the FMC may make it out to be like she's willing to do things with other men to fulfill her partner's kink, her primary focus clearly seems to shift from wanting to please her partner to wanting to please another man/other men (and of course herself).
All I can say is... you're reading too much into their behaviour. You're not incorrect in your assessments, mind you, but you're going deeper than you should.

These are NTR stories, and one of the hallmarks of NTR stories (or paths) is the FMC's debauchery rising to such a level that she is more sexually comfortable with her "bull" than she ever was with her original partner, the MC. It dabbles into the "cuckolding" and humiliation aspect of true NTR, where the woman is happier and more satisfied with the antagonist who "stole" her, so it would make sense that the FMC is more willing to indulge the bull's sexual tastes (like the aforementioned anal & creampie sex).
 

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You're welcome! I'm glad you appreciated my response.

Pineapple Express has grown on me over time, despite some initial and continuing reservations. I initially deleted it from my computer after my first time playing it, but then I ended up downloading it again and keeping it. In thinking about it now, I did the same thing with Exploring the Big Apple. Generally speaking, I also have had to warm up somewhat to NTR-focused AVNs, in part by learning to ignore or minimize some of the typical tropes/aspects that I tend to dislike.
I have to say that PE unfortunately gave away a lot of potential, even though I still really like it. I miss some scenes like in the shower in Cornell's bedroom. The development between MC and Cornell's sister had more potential. MC saved pictures of her on his cell phone, after that the story with her was almost over. Then the pregnancy path. To this day, nobody knows who the child is from? I would have liked to have seen how it developed.
 

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All I can say is... you're reading too much into their behaviour. You're not incorrect in your assessments, mind you, but you're going deeper than you should.

These are NTR stories, and one of the hallmarks of NTR stories (or paths) is the FMC's debauchery rising to such a level that she is more sexually comfortable with her "bull" than she ever was with her original partner, the MC. It dabbles into the "cuckolding" and humiliation aspect of true NTR, where the woman is happier and more satisfied with the antagonist who "stole" her, so it would make sense that the FMC is more willing to indulge the bull's sexual tastes (like the aforementioned anal & creampie sex).
I get what you're saying and understand that this is part of the history/common themes of the NTR genre, but does it necessarily have to be that way? Can't a female partner crave having sex with another guy because it's a different or novel experience rather than an altogether better or more satisfying experience? We all like some variety sometimes to keep things interesting and thus sometimes will seek out new experiences, which does not amount to seeking one thing that's better than the previous thing; sometimes people just crave something different.

Also, if the female partner feels more willing to perform certain sex acts with another man when it's something that her significant other desired to do but was denied, then it would seem like either it's time for a conversation about why she's denying her loving partner this experience (and ideally figure out what can be done to share this experience with him) or it's time to let her partner have the experience he's being denied with another woman. Otherwise, it comes off as being selfish and insensitive in relation to her partner's desires.

Speaking of the humiliation aspect of NTR, this is the main reason why I have had difficulty warming up to the genre. If I were to have some kind of arrangement with my female partner like that, I would try to take care not to say things that might make her feel as if I want another woman more than her or that she's inferior to some other woman in some way, and I would expect her to try to do the same (and of course maintain open communication). However, I know that not everyone feels the way I do, so I'm just expressing my opinion/personal preference when it comes to imagining myself to some extent as the FMC's partner.
 

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I get what you're saying and understand that this is part of the history/common themes of the NTR genre, but does it necessarily have to be that way? Can't a female partner crave having sex with another guy because it's a different or novel experience rather than an altogether better or more satisfying experience? We all like some variety sometimes to keep things interesting and thus sometimes will seek out new experiences, which does not amount to seeking one thing that's better than the previous thing; sometimes people just crave something different.

Also, if the female partner feels more willing to perform certain sex acts with another man when it's something that her significant other desired to do but was denied, then it would seem like either it's time for a conversation about why she's denying her loving partner this experience (and ideally figure out what can be done to share this experience with him) or it's time to let her partner have the experience he's being denied with another woman. Otherwise, it comes off as being selfish and insensitive in relation to her partner's desires.

Speaking of the humiliation aspect of NTR, this is the main reason why I have had difficulty warming up to the genre. If I were to have some kind of arrangement with my female partner like that, I would try to take care not to say things that might make her feel as if I want another woman more than her or that she's inferior to some other woman in some way, and I would expect her to try to do the same (and of course maintain open communication). However, I know that not everyone feels the way I do, so I'm just expressing my opinion/personal preference when it comes to imagining myself to some extent as the FMC's partner.
What you are speaking of, is NTS or Sharing. And it sounds like NTR is not your jam - which is fine.

But NTR inherently invokes negative emotions, and deals with such "darker" topics (like inferiority complex).
 

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I get what you're saying and understand that this is part of the history/common themes of the NTR genre, but does it necessarily have to be that way?
NTR (Cuckold) is like a very bitter tea. And those who enjoy this genre savor that bitterness. All the things you mentioned are part of that bitter taste. If you remove them all, it's just bland hot water.

Discomfort, unpleasantness, sometimes even anger, heart-wrenching jealousy, and at the same time, intense sexual desire. The stronger these conflicting emotions are, the better the NTR.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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haha to bad im an assman so I rarely care about boob size unless it's to damn big like in some AVN's . Very rarely a women makes me perfer their breast but it does happen once in awhile.
im a boob man but i HATE how in these parts that's assumed to be "more = better", no i hate cow/cartoon boobs it's about shape mostly.

And Emma has fantastic boob shape :love:
 

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im a boob man but i HATE how in these parts that's assumed to be "more = better", no i hate cow/cartoon boobs it's about shape mostly.

And Emma has fantastic boob shape :love:
honestly both is great on her tho I find my self to perfer the sex scenes that show off her ass or her face more. I actually think her face is my favorite feature of her appereance
 
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