I fail to see how a person speaking for himself is kink shaming others...But to be fair, some of our desires, fantasies and fetishes are bone killers to other people too. I doubt Joshy's cum kisses are a favorite in this forum; and somebody told me my feet paraphilia is disgusting fungus orgy.
As long as there are options is fine, no need to kink shame (intentionally or not)
They should come in dms automatically. He's not random about them - as they're always sent out in regular increments to the appropriate tiers. (that's not to say you're off base, I dunno, maybe he forgets sometimes and that'd be worth mentioning to him)
Welcome to progressive orthodoxy. First time?
It probably will be. The MCs reaction to her telling him she wants to regulate him and doesn't want him to fuck her was optional to. The player has the option to say no to that. BUT she was not pleased to hear that.
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True. But that is why I said intentionally or not. The phrasing can matter. Calling something bone killer, disgusting, etc. Is a language that can, unintentionally, be felt as shaming for some, especially if it gets lots of approval by others.
It's a good thing then that this situation is not supposed to be more about her pleasure than his...although that of course is how it tends to become slanted over time.
Description of game: "Join a young couple on their adventure..."
Yet what is the MC being allowed to do beyond with anyone but her? Having her involve other guys is supposed to amount to equivalent freedom/adventure for each of them? He gets no play with other women, but she gets to throw herself in the direction of any other men she chooses? Does she not enjoy seeing her partner be pleasured by others?
Anyway, yeah, yeah, there's only so many paths that can be developed, got it. That doesn't mean I'm not going to wonder about why no matter which path is followed, the net gain is to allow the FMC to mess around with other men yet not allow the MC to have anything with any other woman, not even while in her presence.
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Okay, then I'll rephrase it. Not every cuckold likes chastity. So yes, I want it to be optional.
What you say here (if I understand it correctly - I'm cautious!) follows the rules of sharing. But if you take cucking as a fetish, this in itself is supposed to be pleasure for him. He derives pleasure out of being denied pleasure. I find this difference to be in the background of a lot of discussions and misunderstandings here, so also here with the cage.
(and all this isn't even my personal fetish, I just see that a lot of people who are concerned about equality in pleasure see it the way you do and this is not the way I and many others understand the fetish. Cucking isn't sharing)
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But I actually admire you Joshy92. You are very transparent and confident with your taste, in a sea of antiNTR comments
I'm speaking of the game as a whole. Even on the sharing path, the only sharing that's happening is with her messing around with other men. There is no involvement of other women. Also, she has engaged in sexual behavior with Martin and the professor at times even without having gotten permission from him, yet the MC has not had any play with another woman on the sharing path whether with her permission or not or in her presence or not.
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Not always. Some like clean up, some like chastity and some don't.
The list goes on.
And just to counter the possible argument that cucking is somethng completely different than denial: Cucking as watching is in itself a first step of self-denial: you pull out of the option of fucking your wife and sit back: you deny yourself in that moment what another guy is allowed to do. You could have done it yourself, but you don't do it.
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It is a delicate balance between soft and hard NTR. It usually begets many a heated discussions. I think as long as the story and characters are consistent with their behavior, desires, it can go either way.
I do not think cuckolding is sharing. The husband or wife becomes a voyeur and derives pleasure from watching, from being a witness, he/she is no longer a protagonist of the sexual action, merely secondary. You participate as an appendix
.Sharing is equal I think. You participate in the intercourse with your partner, more or less than the invited person, but you are active.
But narratively it is weird, making an exaggerated example, when the wife goes from nun to nymph, from caring to dominatrix, in a few days, wanting to ride the whole town, while, abruptly, keeping the husband locked in a chastity cage.
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And then if the guy fucks her? (aka reclaiming) look cuckold isn't a catch-all word. And all you do is try and make some philosophical debates about things like that in these threads.
They are poorly written porn games, not a view on the fetish in real life, or if they are, it's cranked up to a hundred.
Re-claiming is exactly that: you claim something after you have temporarily renounced it. And trust me - this isn't philosophical at all (I wouldn't get personal here so why do you?)
Yes, I find that quite peculiar as well. It has gone from her voicing the most concern about having to share a temporary residence with another man to it seeming like she is the one driving the sexual encounters with other men (on any path).
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It is actually hard to define and limit... Somebody needs to write A Critique of Pure Cuckoldry a la Kant
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It got personal when you said the dev shouldn't give the option out of it, which is selfish.
Big kinks like that should always be optional.
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especially cause cucking can mean something different to someone else. For me it implies humiliation / something close to being in the realm of Femdom where the wife / girlfriend is the one that denies the MC or makes him watch. I rarely see self denial as being a cuck ( depends on the context and relationship) While to others just the act of watching is being a cuck.It is actually hard to define and limit... Somebody needs to write A Critique of Pure Cuckoldry a la Kant
Never said that. I just dared to hint at the practical difficulties for the dev. I even reminded all that the dev indeed had given options just minutes ago. And why selfish? it isn't my kink. And you weren't even in the thread when I wrote that yesterday so how is it personal?