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Abere Lucifer Productions

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One thing I will say, and I genuinely hope you take this in spirit in which its intended, 'cause I'm in no way attacking you, but...

The lipgloss look you've been trying on Abere just doesn't work in my opinion. It just makes her lips look weird to me. That said, its your game, and its not like I have the skills to do what you do.
Oh, I agree with you. It was a preset skin that I'm still working on some. They should be fixed in the next update.
 
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One thing I will say, and I genuinely hope you take this in spirit in which its intended, 'cause I'm in no way attacking you, but...

The lipgloss look you've been trying on Abere just doesn't work in my opinion. It just makes her lips look weird to me. That said, its your game, and its not like I have the skills to do what you do.
Is this better? I got rid of the shine and reflection on her lips.

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Is this better? I got rid of the shine and reflection on her lips.

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Honestly? It kinda looks like she has an std or something. They look dried out and that red spot in the middle of the bottom lip makes her look like she caught something. I think you're right in that the gloss was too strong. It stood out too much and drew attention in a way that was unnatural.

(I don't need to state the obvious that I'm not attacking you or anything do I?) :)
 

Abere Lucifer Productions

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Honestly? It kinda looks like she has an std or something. They look dried out and that red spot in the middle of the bottom lip makes her look like she caught something. I think you're right in that the gloss was too strong. It stood out too much and drew attention in a way that was unnatural.

(I don't need to state the obvious that I'm not attacking you or anything do I?) :)
I'll see what I can do. It's cool. I know your not attacking me. I'm always open for honest criticism and ideas to improve my games. It's how I've become a better developer.
 
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Honestly? It kinda looks like she has an std or something. They look dried out and that red spot in the middle of the bottom lip makes her look like she caught something. I think you're right in that the gloss was too strong. It stood out too much and drew attention in a way that was unnatural.

(I don't need to state the obvious that I'm not attacking you or anything do I?) :)
I think this is the best I can do without redoing all of her skin.

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I think this is the best I can do without redoing all of her skin.

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Is there no way you can edit that bottom lip at all? I think its that red spot that's the issue. Can the image file used for the lips texture be edited at all? Granted, I have no experience with Daz, but I have played around in VAM and even some old games like Skyrim where you would basically attach a texture file to a certain part of a model(creation kit). I'm going to assume that Daz probably works in a similar though more complex fashion.

If it can't be done, or it will just take too much effort then its not the end of the world or anything.
I only brought it up because it stood out to me and kinda spoiled the rest of the image a bit.
 

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Is there no way you can edit that bottom lip at all? I think its that red spot that's the issue. Can the image file used for the lips texture be edited at all? Granted, I have no experience with Daz, but I have played around in VAM and even some old games like Skyrim where you would basically attach a texture file to a certain part of a model(creation kit). I'm going to assume that Daz probably works in a similar though more complex fashion.

If it can't be done, or it will just take too much effort then its not the end of the world or anything.
I only brought it up because it stood out to me and kinda spoiled the rest of the image a bit.
There is but I worry about messing it up too much. It may also be the lighting. I'll look into it.
 
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I was going through the Extra Credit models to make sure they were all working well, preparing to restart work on it and I ran across Kitty's old original flesh model. God damn that's a major upgrade!! Jesus! It's not even close to how good New Goth Kitty is. LOL!
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I was going through the Extra Credit models to make sure they were all working well, preparing to restart work on it and I ran across Kitty's old original flesh model. God damn that's a major upgrade!! Jesus! It's not even close to how good New Goth Kitty is. LOL!
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Maybe it's the facial expression and the eye color, but I like the first better. Can't see the body of the original, so that overall look might be better, but not able to make a direct comparison here. Also was wondering about Abere - I guess I just really liked her original form, but got used to the second version. The latest is looking like she's hitting 40+ (yeah, I understand her "real" age is measured in centuries), rather than the fresh-faced 20-something. The new version is giving me "Ellen Page deciding to be Eliot" vibes...¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Don't go cutting off her tits, okay?
 

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Maybe it's the facial expression and the eye color, but I like the first better. Can't see the body of the original, so that overall look might be better, but not able to make a direct comparison here. Also was wondering about Abere - I guess I just really liked her original form, but got used to the second version. The latest is looking like she's hitting 40+ (yeah, I understand her "real" age is measured in centuries), rather than the fresh-faced 20-something. The new version is giving me "Ellen Page deciding to be Eliot" vibes...¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Don't go cutting off her tits, okay?
I promise I won't cut her tits off. I'm trying to make the game characters look more realistic. Niki and Eve look real enough. I can move lighting around to make them look pretty realistic. Some of the other characters like Abere and Kitty I had to change the skin mapping. Abere is still kind of a work in progress.
 
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So one of the reasons I was going to end Extra Credit was because I had kind of written myself into a corner and the only way out was to end the story. Oops. I thought taking some time off of the game would help me figure a way out of that corner....and I did find a way out. I found an exit to keep on going. I'll hopefully be able to explain more once the game gets to that exit. I don't want to spoil anything. Lets just say when I figured it out I was jumping for joy. I'll tease that it has to do with lore from 23 Sisters that couldn't be changed...or so I thought. I found another loophole! LOL! Anyway, stay tuned... 555.png
 

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So one of the reasons I was going to end Extra Credit was because I had kind of written myself into a corner and the only way out was to end the story. Oops. I thought taking some time off of the game would help me figure a way out of that corner....and I did find a way out. I found an exit to keep on going. I'll hopefully be able to explain more once the game gets to that exit. I don't want to spoil anything. Lets just say when I figured it out I was jumping for joy. I'll tease that it has to do with lore from 23 Sisters that couldn't be changed...or so I thought. I found another loophole! LOL! Anyway, stay tuned... View attachment 4442734
Is it time travel? I bet it's time travel.

Or not.
 

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I leave my apartment for a few hours yesterday and I'm already sick. Those damn outdoor germs!! Hopefully I'll be feeling better by Saturday so I can start work on Extra Credit. I got the Tomboy update out right on time. Yes, I'm switching back to Extra Credit Fun Renders. You'll be seeing a lot more of Niki, Eve and Abere. View attachment 4449171
She could have at least taken off her pants before collapsing. ;):LOL:
 
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