VN Ren'Py Falling Undercover: Nox Syndicate [v0.06.0] [Azienda]

[NTRforLife]

Don't think there would've been this much discourse if they put the whole silhouette thing one update later. This update could've been just her first deepthroat and one deep fuck. Luna hadn't done anything that hardcore so completely hiding her first time doing all that bummed out a lot of people

it would have been more logical because then we would have experienced the first crucial scenes with Luna regarding new things before an event like this occurs from Aidens POV

 

[eaudecologne]

I wont, but he lied, that's an undeniable fact, the only thing i did was drop from supporting.

Well i hope the update didn't hurt you too badly. It's been a few days and you're still going on about it. Will you survive?

 

[ButterscotchJackson]

It only stings so much because we're all now desperately waiting for a full month for the next release. The person who buys the full game nine months from now isn't going to think anything of it.

 

[Terix3]

It only stings so much because we're all now desperately waiting for a full month for the next release. The person who buys the full game nine months from now isn't going to think anything of it.

Naturally if game don't end there it won't feel as bad but some things are lost. Her first multi orgasm sex, first in front of hubby and most importantly her first deepthroat. I'm not even into it all that myself but I still think its a crime to miss it. She is gulping on a fucking LOG and all her thoughts we get are "I need to do something"?!?!. People will notice that even when there are more DTs after.

 

[Miracle.]

I actually don't quite understand why there is a deadline? It can't be that if the project isn't completed by this deadline, people won't pay. On the contrary, if they say they want to add more episodes, everyone will be very happy because they can see more of the downfall. If it's because of a vacation or something else, they can take a half-month break in the middle and then continue. I believe no one will complain. At present, it seems that most people actually still hope that the game can last longer. If the game content is simplified due to rushing, it really makes no sense.

The thing is the release for each episodes last like what, 30 days? And depending on the amount of work that needs to be refined and polish he has to put into each part of the story, Azienda feels compelled to release an episode because this is what he promised to deliver.

Also I didn't mean that if Azienda didn't put out the work on time no one wants to support it or buy it, it's just I believe this will affect the quality of his work especially when he is forced into this certain timeframe to complete the work that is needed to be done. I don't know what page number is it in this thread but it's also stated that IF Azienda did work on Luna POV then it would be much more resources and the EP will be delayed to release.

Nothing wrong with setting an expected release date per episode but what worries me is that it will affect what kind of CG's and dialogue were getting for each segment of the story and the fact that a lot of people has expressed dissatisfaction with this patch says a LOT. And honestly people are fine anyways if EP. 6 gets delayed if the things were getting doesn't feel shafted or cut loose.

 

[Miracle.]

Might have? They definitely cut corners. We're missing an entire perspective as Luna gets the ever loving shit fucked out of her in the presence of Aiden. She repeatedly gets off to it, to the point where she has now had more than twice as many orgasms from Vargas as she has from Aiden and on top of that she actually lost a point of emotional attachment to Aiden. On top of all that the tit sucking scene is recycled artwork from an earlier scene. The events of this update are a big deal and we get a shadowed outline instead of the actual scenes from Luna's perspective. This is an obvious scenario where Azienda bit off more than they can chew and instead of telling their supporters that the update is going to take longer they tossed out a half baked update. I wouldn't be surprised for a second if Luna's perspective becomes smaller and smaller as the game progresses. I fully expect an update where Luna is getting railed by Vargas in a room Aiden is standing outside and instead of seeing the scene from her perspective we just see him stand outside the door all "Golly gee whillikers I wonder where Luna is?"

To be fair with what we have saw from the past episodes (1-5), I didn't think Azienda would force his hands into having cut off a major part of the POV knowing that from the first 5 parts of the story everything was going well, he is the dev anyways and he could've just extended the release date of the episode so that he won't rush in completing this segment of the story.

 

[Oriandu]

Probably a hot take but I respect it. Creators vision should be number one. Catering to peoples whims doesn't work 99% of the time. I feel like this issue mostly comes down to the patreon model of playing games by tiny bits. As we see in the comments here about guys holding their seed since last update... And then you don't see mommy nurse Luna take it every which way, of course id go mental too. This is something I dislike about the patreon model of game development so much, ultimately either you stick to what you want to create and receive a barrage of hate or if you cave in to their demands, you end up releasing updates just to pacify your customers whims, which is what so many devs do and why most games just straight up suck.
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None of that logic flies when you're working on a crowd funded project. IF you piss your audience off you stand a good chance of losing money. The patreon model requires satisfying your subscribers or you may wake up one morning and find that your monthly income is suddenly significantly lower than it was. It's happened to better developers than Azienda.

 

[eaudecologne]

None of that logic flies when you're working on a crowd funded project. IF you piss your audience off you stand a good chance of losing money. The patreon model requires satisfying your subscribers or you may wake up one morning and find that your monthly income is suddenly significantly lower than it was. It's happened to better developers than Azienda.

Well it is the next morning today isn't it? Everyone's played the update and azienda seems to be afloat still. So looks like you're just talking crap? I'm sure azienda knows how patreon game development works they've been at it for a while I think. You seem to be almost praying for their downfall like the update hurt you personally or something. I hope the evil update doesn't mess with your sleep at night

 

[Jarmovd11]

Its always the small minority that shouts the loudest, are people that spoiled nowadays as this is genuinely one of the best OVERALL games out there.
There have been so many bad and mediocre games and I am sure the people who have gone through those are surely appreciative of this game.
Also, there are supposed to be 15 episodes and maybe a few more according to Azienda, so the game is literally not even halfway, we are literally at 40% (!!) off of a finished product and people have the audacity to act like they are owed something if one thing dont go their way while the objective correct choice is to sit back and try to enjoy it and if you are dissatisfied, at least wait it out before continuously jumping to conclusions.
Writers, artists, directors, producers whatever have their own unique style and supporters are there to support and not dictate them like a puppet to do X and Y. Let them do their work and behave with some decency.

I genuinely hope the writer(s) of this game do not get influenced by the small and loud toxic audience and can create their artpiece in patience.

I only have been playing VN/RPGMs/NTR games for a few years but if you have been playing these kinda games for some time, you know how many shitty and mediocre games there are along with many abandoned ones as well, this current game is the true exception

 

[firebird36]

It was not the best update, but we just have to be patient. Hopefully, they will drop the Povs for Luna for the next update.

 

[FRVN]

Hopefully, they will drop the Povs for Luna for the next update.

They will not. Unless they change their minds, but based on their other comments that were shared here, I highly doubt it.

 

[SenMizeri]

...the true exception

The true exception would suggest it's the only good one... and that's far from the truth buddy. They write bad cucks, other NTR games don't. They have their weaknesses, and they decided to focus their story on said weaknesses. They're a good dev no doubt...

Its always the small minority that shouts the loudest....

Oh yeah, they "always" get this kind of blowback on every one of their updates. You just need to check their patreon to see which comments are getting the most likes, same on here. It's not just some "loud minority", otherwise this raging debate wouldn't still be going on (or it'd have a raging debate every single update).

I checked their patreon stats, only thing that can be said conclusively, is that interest in the game has dropped, but that doesn't equate to paid members leaving. I don't wish them ill, because they don't scam their patreons like other dodgy NSFW devs, but it's fictional to say this is just a minority (less than 15%). It's been a pretty big issue in this update, and a lot of people haven't been happy with it.

It is what it is. Excitement for the game has gone down, but that doesn't mean it's a failure yet. And considering Azienda tends to improve, I somehow doubt they will do an update like this ever again in their next games. Waaaay too much controversy. No one's posted their latest WIP on this thread for example, it's just this debate still going on.

 

[luccel]

The true exception would suggest it's the only good one... and that's far from the truth buddy. They write bad cucks, other NTR games don't. They have their weaknesses, and they decided to focus their story on said weaknesses. They're a good dev no doubt...



Oh yeah, they "always" get this kind of blowback on every one of their updates. You just need to check their patreon to see which comments are getting the most, same on here. It's not just some "loud minority", otherwise this raging debate wouldn't still be going on (or it'd have a raging debate every single update).

I checked their patreon stats, only thing that can be said conclusively, is that interest in the game has dropped, but that doesn't equate to paid members leaving. I don't wish them ill, because they don't scam their patreons like other dodgy NSFW devs, but it's fictional to say this is just a minority (less than 15%). It's been a pretty big issue in this update, and a lot of people haven't been happy with it.

It is what it is. Excitement for the game has gone down, but that doesn't mean it's a failure yet. And considering Azienda tends to improve, I somehow doubt they will do an update like this ever again in their next games. Waaaay too much controversy.

 

[SenMizeri]

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Google Patreon stats yourself or look at their patreon comments.

Here's their patreon post when they released it - who's getting more likes? It's not a tiny minority, and Azienda would be a bit silly to carry on listening to the steady stream of complaints they've received over the years about their lack of a cuck focus, because it turns out, most people weren't complaining before this, because they were happy how they previously wrote their games.

No one complained like this before, because they had nothing big to complain about. It's led to a blowback listening only to the mystery NTR lovers. Corruption is a core part of the netorare kink.

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[luccel]

Google Patreon stats yourself or look at their patreon comments.

Here's their patreon post when they released it - who's getting more likes? It's not a tiny minority, and Azienda would be a bit silly to carry on listening to the steady stream of complaints they've received over the years about their lack of a cuck focus, because it turns out, most people weren't complaining before this, because they were happy how they previously wrote their games.

No one complained like this before, because they had nothing big to complain about. It's led to a blowback listening only to the mystery NTR lovers. Corruption is a core part of the netorare kink.

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there is zero way for you to reasonably prove that the people complaining are in any way not a minority with out seen a major drop in sub counts. in fact graphs show that they had a drop before the update came out and it has gone back up since the update. so you seem to be even more wrong about the people commenting not being a minority

 

[SenMizeri]

there is zero way for you to reasonably prove that the people complaining are in any way not a minority with out seen a major drop in sub counts. in fact graphs show that they had a drop before the update came out and it has gone back up since the update. so you seem to be even more wrong about the people commenting not being a minority


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Lol... I noticed you cut out the stats about interest.

Yeah so what, they had a bunch of new members at the release of the game. That's expected, it's called anticipation for the last release, not a good metric to use until a few more releases have come out.

I just mentioned about interest in their patreon page. I also said that doesn't translate to loss of members. But my main point stands, it's not "loud minority" - otherwise this blooming debate still wouldn't be raging on. By now, people are usually talking about their next release and posting their patreon posts (like their recent WIP). The side who are arguing it was a mistake are getting more likes in the community, than those saying it was a good decision. Anyone can count to 10 and see this in many areas of their community.

Azienda has never generated this level of controversy in their games before.

 

[The H-Game Connoisseur]

The more time passes the more I feel like the buildup to the behind-curtains scenes is just not enough.

This game is crazy hot but there's no actual cuckoldry here. There's gradual corruption, sure, but there's no... desperation. No raw extremes of emotions (and I don't mean her pulling an ahegao face at some point). This game gets so much right but doesn't commit to the final stretch.

It's weird. I think the developer is great, but for some reason, won't commit to the actual cuck fantasy. Make MC suck on her toes or kiss her feet, create the power imbalance, implement corruption in the power imbalance... Do something man, don't just get her fucked behind some curtains.

 

[monsterartisan]

Don't think there would've been this much discourse if they put the whole silhouette thing one update later. This update could've been just her first deepthroat and one deep fuck. Luna hadn't done anything that hardcore so completely hiding her first time doing all that bummed out a lot of people

To think that 2 CGs are wasted on foreplay stuff, instead of it being 2 things in the silhouette scenes.

 

[Polta12]

Lol... I noticed you cut out the stats about interest.

Yeah so what, they had a bunch of new members at the release of the game. That's expected, it's called anticipation for the last release, not a good metric to use until a few more releases have come out.

I just mentioned about interest in their patreon page. I also said that doesn't translate to loss of members. But my main point stands, it's not "loud minority" - otherwise this blooming debate still wouldn't be raging on. By now, people are usually talking about their next release and posting their patreon posts (like their recent WIP). The side who are arguing it was a mistake are getting more likes in the community, than those saying it was a good decision. Anyone can count to 10 and see this in many areas of their community.

Azienda has never generated this level of controversy in their games before.

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I noticed you searched the word azienda on google trends, but maybe you don't know that azienda is a very common Italian word, with Spanish origins. It's a bit like if a developer is called dog and you searched the word dog on google trends, results would be mixed with everything else, compared to a search like "Activision" that is not a common word.

 

[res987]

I noticed you searched the word azienda on google trends, but maybe you don't know that azienda is a very common Italian word, with Spanish origins

Exactly, that's why you (SenMizeri) should go to pages like "graphteon" that, although it may not be 100% reliable information, you can see the "trend"

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