Mfs download a porn visual novel and then bitch about the amount of text 
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Just because it is a visual novel that does not mean it has to be unnecessarily lengthy? People are not saying to shorten it to 1/5th. People are criticizing the PACING. More words does not equate to quality. People can criticize unnecessary details in a story that is not being used in the narrative.Mfs download a porn visual novel and then bitch about the amount of text
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Ya'll know where's else too many words for any person to read and follow the narrative? In the same type of discussion topic about previous Azienda's game - TTP. 5100 freaking posts of people who criticize this and that and than beg for hero to leak new portion of juice.
The problem of long text has great solution. It's called "Enable skip unseen and hold Ctrl". That's it. This easy. Don't need it? Don't read it.
It's not about the length in a vacuum? If that same length has essence, then sure? Lengthy text that are kind of irrelevant is questionable. As I have said, and I am not sure if you read, the PACING is important. The story dragging on without developing the characters NOR the settings/narrative is a bit too much. More text does not equate to quality. This is not an essay exam with a minimum word requirement...
OBVIOUSLY. It goes without saying that, the opposite, having as few words as possible does not mean it is good either.
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Honest question: Could you drop any suggestion to improve the pacing?
I'm still very early on FUNS but from TTP I remember issues like text that doesn't add characterization (mostly in Felix's route) or redundancy (mostly in Sophie's route).
What do *you* feel is lacking here?
I'm still very early on FUNS but from TTP I remember issues like text that doesn't add characterization (mostly in Felix's route) or redundancy (mostly in Sophie's route).
What do *you* feel is lacking here?
I have not played chapter 3 yet as I have stated in my previous comments. A couple of members already brought up that the drinking part is pointless and did not go anywhere, hence it is an unnecessary plot point. I have not played chapter 3 yet so I don't have much comment on that.
In chapter 1, the pacing of the intro is already gruelingly slow. You don't need this much set up and this much text just to introduce the world setting. A world setting that is already pretty common. Setting it up in a concise manner would suffice as your general player would already get the gist.
I would have to replay it again to give concrete examples, so I am merely going by what I can remember and what I felt during my gameplay.
Going by memory, there's just way too much interactions that does not really progress characterization nor narrative(sometimes it does but very very minimally and slowly). You could have a short dialogue of gratitude to establish that 2 characters have known each other for a long time and is in very good terms. Also, mission briefings are usually very short and simple. These people are supposed to be agents, so you'd think they would have that kind of talk, but "mission" related text are also very long?
Again, let me reiterate. I don't have any problems with a lengthy text. I have problems with text that are pointless. Some things that are overexplained can be shortened. Some interactions could be shortened as well.
Not to mention the quality of the script writing. The main bad guy is literally the "swearing makes you cool" type of character. Which is a bit too typical for me? The nickname calling is a bit lame too. I'd rather have a cunning "bull" than what we have right now on this game.
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I agree with what you like, but disagree with what you don't like. I'm with you on your first point, but I think some people prefer more action from other girls too, so I think Azienda is catering to that audience too. Fair enough, but I'll personally skip it for the same reasons you have.
I don't want Luna to cum too soon, I liked it how she only edged at best this time around, she got a taster for what was to cum... I mean come. Been the hottest element of those two scenes for me so far.
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Going through chapter 2 atm so I can't speak about it yet, but a few things on chapter 1:
I think it has the right amount of exposition. It even has a separate codex to infodump the elements of the setting that are mentioned but not elaborated since they are a common part of the characters' lives and universe. So, taking only the scenes themselves, you have:
- A scene that establishes who are the good guys, the bad guys, where are they, what they do and the main trio of heroes roles in that fight. How they conduct that fight and an outcome of that confrontation, a future main *conflict* for the future.
- A couple of scenes that expand on the setting of the good guys org (and their struggles that will motivate the main plotline right after).
- A couple of scenes that expand on characterization of the main trio, their overall temperament and their emotional bonds, all of that *justifies* their reasoning for the latter decision they make as a team, and the decisions they will make alone in the future.
- The bad guy org intro, and the bad guy himself.
So far, I think it was flawless for first chapter. Every scene adds, everyone is introduced properly, even if they are unlikeable.
Also: Vargas *is* a brute, that's the whole point, even if he has a stroke of genius later on (imo, if it turns out he was "just pretending" to be a fool that would be worse than taking him at face value, unless it is very, very well justified)
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People are pussin around like crazy. Finally there is one good new NTR game again in the middle of the draught (corona, state of the world and economy making it really hard for indie developer beeing an attractive job righnt now - and you can really feel it, as NTR devs start to dwindle) and this 'emotional crowd' abolishes itself and its own kink again.
If you didnt know: Nobody can cater all your little slimey needs (hell, I wouldnt even want to) and still a game can be considered good overall. World isnt black'n'white, so grow up. By the way: If I were the developer, I wouldn't even listen to a bit of your feedback, because you all disqualify yourselves. If you want your feedback to be taken seriously maybe try to be nice and constructive. Idiots. To hell with you all if you are the reason why NTR devs stop producing.
If you didnt know: Nobody can cater all your little slimey needs (hell, I wouldnt even want to) and still a game can be considered good overall. World isnt black'n'white, so grow up. By the way: If I were the developer, I wouldn't even listen to a bit of your feedback, because you all disqualify yourselves. If you want your feedback to be taken seriously maybe try to be nice and constructive. Idiots. To hell with you all if you are the reason why NTR devs stop producing.
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Good shit, mostly. Dig the slow burn. Too many words but like others have said, I can skip most of it and still know what's going on.
What really bugged me, though, was when Luna and Aiden went to get new clothes and Luna told the shop girl (Who personally knows Vargas) they were married. WTF?? Undercover, except when shopping, I guess. Would be easy to fix if it's a writing mistake.
What really bugged me, though, was when Luna and Aiden went to get new clothes and Luna told the shop girl (Who personally knows Vargas) they were married. WTF?? Undercover, except when shopping, I guess. Would be easy to fix if it's a writing mistake.
yes I also couldn't load the save of the old version of the game, I had to replay it from the beginning
You can always start from the start of an episode, try the "select episode" option in the main menu.
Although I have mixed opinions on this recent debate about the writing of the game, im glad we can all agree that the artstyle and animation are phenomenal, you can still notice the improvements comparing the previous updates with the current one even if the artstyle doesnt change or maybe have some minor adjustments, and the fact that we get art cg and animations with this quality like this each month is fantastic and deserves some respect.
Props to all the Artists working on this game.
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Props to all the Artists working on this game.
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Could you maybe put this into spoilers? Some people might want to play the game before.
I do agree with the art aspect. But for me art is secondary (while still beeing important). I prefer story and character development and a well-thought corruption process that is as logical and realistic as possible in the context of the world and characters of the story. Thats why I personally love the writing in FUNS. I do skip at the times but when I play again I read the parts that I havent, adding some kind of replayability to the game.
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I love the logic and Azienda manages to write it all very well. I also dont find it too lengthy personally. There is a lot of action already and from the feeling it has the same density of scenes and text as other top notch NTR games such as A Promise Best Left Unkept, Henteria Chronicles,...
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its fixed now, apologies to you all since im not used to some commands or controls in f95 zone.
I kinda agree with you on the general writing part, i love games with good story, impacts and plot that is consistent to the world they live in and the type of story theyre trying to tell us.
Speaking of the game again, i personally also like how the story is going, and despite that i also agree with some users that certain parts feel a little weird, long or unnecesary, i dont mind it that much since i love almost all of the things the game provides.
Besides, we all know nothing is perfect and some mistakes can happen, and we gotta remember that the game is still in development, these mistakes can be fixed later either during the process of development or when the game is fully finished so i personally dont agree to complain too much about it now.
Or at least lets not do that in a way that sounds like we dont apreciate what is already done right, we can do a good constructive critic opinion of the game without saying "this update is mid, is meh, it sucks, bad writing" (Ik not all people who didnt like the update said this, but its still worth mentioning).
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Calm down, it's only a game. People can have their own opinions. I'm sure Azienda is used to it by now.
Dont worry, I am not taking it too serious. Just sometimes I feel you gotta put something against all that parish of misery. Dont want those devs to believe those howlers are the only ones that play their games. Sometimes you also have to create a bit of an atmosphere... heat up the store... if you know what I mean
the game itself doesn't show up in the categories. that's what I'm talking about. https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/#/cat=games/page=1/tags=107,258,783/sort=rating