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Looks like the rabbit stopped pretending:
The developer needs to insert icons of people to know where to go. Combing an empty house is below average fun.
And after choosing the books, the game is over?
And after choosing the books, the game is over?
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Everything you said is logical and makes sense except the part where you expect porn game audiences to be logical and sensible.
At the end of the day, NTR is so all-consuming as a concept that games that have it as an option end up not being as acclaimed or lucrative as games that either focus on it completely or games that leave it out entirely. It might not be how things should be, but it is.
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Tis better to remain silent,
and thought a fool,
than to open ones mouth,
and remove all doubt.
Holy shit, what the fuck is this dribble that is this thread.
If I'd see each and every of you horsefuckers in a thread of a game I made I would be very upset and it wouldn't even be a game with NTR as a primary theme
. You guys are the same type of children that not only get invested, but obsess and get upset over cartoons that you've watched as a child but thinking its real shit.
Game seems fine though, played through whats available, looked at the thread and holy fuck. Shame about the community.
Not to mention that even though the viciousness, validity and amount of people being in an affair and general infidality levels are at an all time high in all of culture regardless if its western or not, yet suicide levels do seem very stagnant. Nobody has a right to ever get upset about NTR and at its worst, just be a better husband or wife or marry a better one. I'd say get over it you retarded motherfuckers lmao. In reality, the truth lies in the details and being mad at NTR only will make it stronger. The best antidote towards it is not having a bigger dick, thats just a trope that kids would believe. Just be a good person in a relationship and cheating will not happen.
Getting mad over fiction is peak brainrot. But whats worse is the way on how its conveyed. If I'd be a wife, I'd be begging to get NTRd by big bubba bbc if my husband would posts here judgeing by this very thread. Holy fuck.
If I'd see each and every of you horsefuckers in a thread of a game I made I would be very upset and it wouldn't even be a game with NTR as a primary theme
. You guys are the same type of children that not only get invested, but obsess and get upset over cartoons that you've watched as a child but thinking its real shit.Game seems fine though, played through whats available, looked at the thread and holy fuck. Shame about the community.
I hard disagree on this. It may be true that something like NTR is a discussed topic with some strong opinions for people that love to talk about trite shit that doesn't impact their lives on any way, but for the most part its just a theme to convey the story for. The people who're upset about NTR are not the core audience for people who like fetish shit like that, especially if its told in a generic way with a bunch of tropes like this game. It can add a layer of depth that you won't find in vanilla though, and that can make it more fapable. Some of the best hentai games are about this topic with a lot of quality material available. Just look at the asian market and what sells there.
Not to mention that even though the viciousness, validity and amount of people being in an affair and general infidality levels are at an all time high in all of culture regardless if its western or not, yet suicide levels do seem very stagnant. Nobody has a right to ever get upset about NTR and at its worst, just be a better husband or wife or marry a better one. I'd say get over it you retarded motherfuckers lmao. In reality, the truth lies in the details and being mad at NTR only will make it stronger. The best antidote towards it is not having a bigger dick, thats just a trope that kids would believe. Just be a good person in a relationship and cheating will not happen.
Getting mad over fiction is peak brainrot. But whats worse is the way on how its conveyed. If I'd be a wife, I'd be begging to get NTRd by big bubba bbc if my husband would posts here judgeing by this very thread
. Holy fuck.It always kinda amuses me devs act like the fact a character would betray you in optional routes, doesn't show an extremely negative trait and unattractive aspect of that character in a way that would taint them on other routes. This is basically the main reason that people get pissed even with being optional, you've still painted that character with a brush of negativity on any sort of romantic route. Which to be fair I haven't played the game yet( I will soon), maybe this is a whore taming simulator with no romance. This is also assuming there isn't mind control involved or something. This isn't even meant to be an anti-ntr post, as much as pointing out what should be obvious here, yet somehow people don't seem to get. A characters reactions to events in other routes still part of their canon personality and tells the player about them and such things speak extremely negatively to that characters traits.
It also really doesn't help that these games never have some sort of come comeuppance towards the people trying to cuck you ever. The devs are always determined to protect the bulls in these games for some reason. I doubt this game will be any different on this front. You'd think at least one dev would use the optional NTR as some sort of catharsis for the people that avoided the routes. You over came the person trying to screw you over, and ruined their lives like they tried to do to you. Nah its always just oh you avoided them and they just failed in their goal they move on with their lives to go fuck over some other person. Why put a fucking villain in the game then not actually do something with them outside of this optional route? Use the character for something jesus.
Lol. Lmao even.
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I didn't really base that opinion on this website and the mouth-breathers who make up some of its unfortunately most vocal user types. I certainly didn't base it on anything that touches on suicide rates as even a tangentially-relevant statistic. Jesus Christ, dude.Holy shit, what the fuck is this dribble that is this thread.
If I'd see each and every of you horsefuckers in a thread of a game I made I would be very upset and it wouldn't even be a game with NTR as a primary theme
Game seems fine though, played through whats available, looked at the thread and holy fuck. Shame about the community.
I hard disagree on this. It may be true that something like NTR is a discussed topic with some strong opinions for people that love to talk about trite shit that doesn't impact their lives on any way, but for the most part its just a theme to convey the story for. The people who're upset about NTR are not the core audience for people who like fetish shit like that, especially if its told in a generic way with a bunch of tropes like this game. It can add a layer of depth that you won't find in vanilla though, and that can make it more fapable. Some of the best hentai games are about this topic with a lot of quality material available. Just look at the asian market and what sells there.
Not to mention that even though the viciousness, validity and amount of people being in an affair and general infidality levels are at an all time high in all of culture regardless if its western or not, yet suicide levels do seem very stagnant. Nobody has a right to ever get upset about NTR and at its worst, just be a better husband or wife or marry a better one. I'd say get over it you retarded motherfuckers lmao. In reality, the truth lies in the details and being mad at NTR only will make it stronger. The best antidote towards it is not having a bigger dick, thats just a trope that kids would believe. Just be a good person in a relationship and cheating will not happen.
Getting mad over fiction is peak brainrot. But whats worse is the way on how its conveyed. If I'd be a wife, I'd be begging to get NTRd by big bubba bbc if my husband would posts here judgeing by this very thread
Here's the bit for the actual dev:
Looks like the main problem so far is the amount of clicks/keystrokes that accompany each action... It's closer to the level of NES games than SNES. Some obvious missing things would be:
-having the rooms of the area you're in (such as your house) expand by default
-getting rid of even more clicks needed after that (bathrooms and outdoor areas for example)
-having markers on the chat/explore buttons for when something is available or just graying them out when they're irrelevant
-marking events or characters on the map to avoid click-hunts
and so on. There's more stuff I could mention but I don't want to nag you too much over a pre-content demo.
Good luck.
Relax man, if you read my comment you would've understand that I've meant the entire thread and the topic within. I was just picking you as a quote because you were like the last and only human here.
Anyone else is retarded and not work engaging at all. I'd say you provide some valid criticism and the dev can certainly do better.
Sorry for beeing so blunt but this is the most ridiculous, arrogant and childish reasoning I have read here in regards of NTR.
So you have players that get their "it doesn't happen" NTR-free route and just because there is a different path (that does not exist in their playthrough) for NTR fans they feel wronged? We are speaking of a character in a porn game, such obsessiv behavior is not normal or healthy and I am 100% sure it is only a vocal minority. Most people who don't like NTR are happy as long as they get their own path. It is also asshole behavior, the NTR path is optional and doesn't affect them but they cry and bitch because they don't want people with other preferences to have fun on their own.
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All good, expetimenting can be great and I wish you luck with the game but if you wanted to try something new you should've just go all in on netorare in my personal opinion, also you saying netorare is just 1 route out of 3 and people can pretend it doesnt even exist really doesnt sit well with me, you could make that 1 route much longer with more content than the other 2 and even if each of them will have the same amount its still 33.33% of content that doesnt exist to people who dislike/hate it so its not even a problem of "can be turned off/avoided" in my opinion and if its too short then whats even the point of adding it ? people who like it will be dissapointed so its a lose/win situation because netorare fans also like vanilla too or at least dont mind it so vanilla fans just get less.
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It's far more childish of you respond the you have than anything else really and to get this defensive about someone stating the obvious. I find it rather hilarious that you genuinely believe that narrative isn't relevant on story just because its porn(when narrative is HEAVILY RELEVANT TO NTR AS A FETISH). Games regularly use different routes or story options to explore other aspects of of a characters personality and to show the outcome of pathes not taken. All routes that have different outcomes show new aspects of a characters personality and if you think those won't have an effect on how that character is perceived, then you're just small minded. These games have narratives, what happens in them paints the character and the story. Your point about it being a porn game makes this even more of a ridiculous counter argument, because if someone is interested in porn of a loving happy vanilla relationship with no dark undertones. Well you know whats going to take away with from that? The knowledge this character would betray them. That kills that entire aspect of that fantasy for someone. My favorite part of how defensive you're being right now is the fact I didn't even attack the fetish in my post, as much as point out why people have the reactions they do.
You can literally do searches on this forum to see MANY NTR posts actually state they want the happy routes even if there is no content in it, because it helps the narrative of their own fetishes route. This tells you how other routes effect the perception of a character and fetishes involved. The people into NTR want the happy route so they can see what was ruined and get off on it. The issue here is that the people interested in the happy route, now have the undertones of well this character really isn't as loyal as she seemed. Though as I stated, this assumes this isn't NTR based on mind control or something that is outside of the characters actual control.
Massive over reaction on your part, overly defensive and you've attacking everyone that disagrees with you as mentally unwell. Which comes of as rather funny.
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You are completely ignoring one important thing about the different routes, we as the player decide what happens.
If the woman decides for another man in such a game it is because you didn't treat her right, you made the decision to push her away and than complain. It is like in real live, if you are an asshole or simply ignore the women they will not be interested in you.
On top of that, if you as an NTR hater just plays the save route you will never see her beeing unfaithful. She will be your golden girl, that you still think about the other paths is just your fault and should be of no concern for the dev.
People like me also want differnt paths because it makes choices matter, a pur vanilla or pure NTR game is boring because no matter what we do, what we decide it will all be the same.
There is also more than NTR vs Anti-NTR crowed, people enjoy playing different routes and see what happens
I am not completely ignoring that the player decides what happens, that is covered by the fact there are different routes which is exactly what I'm talking about. You're unironically making an argument that if you don't see something happen, that it didn't happen. Or that ignorance is bliss, well you can't be ignorant if you know about the other options outcomes. The reality is that other routes, are still pathes that can be taken that show the what a character would do in that situation which reveals something about that character. Which then tells us the player what that character would do in that situation. You are the one ignoring this. Player agency doesn't change this reality.
You're just making up a hypothetical situation to attempt to dodge my point which is disingenuous, because there are literally thousands of manga and hundreds of games with NTR where the protagonist can make all of the "correct" choices, and "treat a woman correctly" and he still gets cucked. Often the choices that lead to cuckoldry are entirely arbitrary. None of what you said is even relevant to my core point however, which you've either misunderstood or are ignoring because you have no counter point.
I never said it should be of concern to the dev if they don't care about losing such people. You don't seem be able to handle that people have a vastly different view point on these things then yourself and have flipped the fuck out about it. Putting words in my mouth that I never said or implied, have painted everyone not like yourself as mentally ill which really paints you in a great light let me tell ya. You seem geniuely threatened by what I said which I find funny.
However as already stated you're still wrong, she's not your golden girl, because narratively its known to the player that there are options where shes easily seduced by just interacting with another man and gives into them even if you have treated her well in the game(Depending on the game). This not uncommon in these types of games, it shows a disloyal part of the characters personality if she would ever betray you for any reason.
darkdepths, if you could see the future and the outcomes of various actions and you know that if you ever let your woman go to a bar by herself she will cheat on you, but if you always stop her from doing so that she stays loyal. Does this not tell you something negative about this person? I ask this question because this is a fairly common sort of choice in optional ntr games broadly speaking.
I'm curious darkdepths, how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast? This is an important question.
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@Ragingrager
" I am not completely ignoring that the player decides what happens, that is covered by the fact there are different routes which is exactly what I'm talking about. You're unironically making an argument that if you don't see something happen, that it didn't happen. Or that ignorance is bliss, well you can't be ignorant if you know about the other options outcomes. The reality is that other routes, are still pathes that can be taken that show the what a character would do in that situation which reveals something about that character. Which then tells us the player what that character would do in that situation. You are the one ignoring this. Player agency doesn't change this reality. "
But the other routes don't happen when the game is as the Dev said! It literally didn't happen, you have a problem with a what if scenario. In another routes you either pushed the FMC away or she is a completely different character that is a slut or easy to seduce. She is like an evil version of a parallel universe. These games are not so deep that you can only understand a char if you play every available route. The chars can just be randomly different with no connection.
"You're just making up a hypothetical situation to attempt to dodge my point which is disingenuous, because there are literally thousands of manga and hundreds of games with NTR where the protagonist can make all of the "correct" choices, and "treat a woman correctly" and he still gets cucked. Often the choices that lead to cuckoldry are entirely arbitrary. None of what you said is even relevant to my core point however, which you've either misunderstood or are ignoring because you have no counter point."
I fear you are the one disingenuous here because your examples are of pure NTR content that is designed to happen. We are speaking about a game where the dev literally said NTR and non-NTR are distinct routes and you still have a problem with it. If you do the right choices nothing bad will happen.
@Ragingrager
"I never said it should be of concern to the dev if they don't care about losing such people. You don't seem be able to handle that people have a vastly different view point on these things then yourself and have flipped the fuck out about it. Putting words in my mouth that I never said or implied, have painted everyone not like yourself as mentally ill which really paints you in a great light let me tell ya. You seem geniuely threatened by what I said which I find funny.
However as already stated you're still wrong, she's not your golden girl, because narratively its known to the player that there are options where shes easily seduced by just interacting with another man and gives into them even if you have treated her well in the game(Depending on the game). This not uncommon in these types of games, it shows a disloyal part of the characters personality if she would ever betray you for any reason."
My issue was that your original statement seemed so far fetched as if arbitary trying to take an issue with the game eventhough it offers you different paths that have nothing to do with each other. They are different realities.
Look, to take some heat off, I apologize for my comment in regards to mental health. It was on the spur of the moment because your reasoning is so alien to me. It was wrong and I honestly meant to offense to you.
"darkdepths, if you could see the future and the outcomes of various actions and you know that if you ever let your woman go to a bar by herself she will cheat on you, but if you always stop her from doing so that she stays loyal. Does this not tell you something negative about this person? I ask this question because this is a fairly common sort of choice in optional ntr games broadly speaking."
Again, the FMC of one path is a different person than on the other. These paths are not meant to complement each other, porn games are not so deep. And to be fair, these what ifs also have to take into account your actions. If you hardly know the woman and make no move on her or if you treat her bad of course she will look for someone different.
But I would say we each showed our point and we will not bea able to convince each other.
"I'm curious darkdepths, how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast? This is an important question."
Ironically I just ate breakfast and before that I felt hungry. :-D
" I am not completely ignoring that the player decides what happens, that is covered by the fact there are different routes which is exactly what I'm talking about. You're unironically making an argument that if you don't see something happen, that it didn't happen. Or that ignorance is bliss, well you can't be ignorant if you know about the other options outcomes. The reality is that other routes, are still pathes that can be taken that show the what a character would do in that situation which reveals something about that character. Which then tells us the player what that character would do in that situation. You are the one ignoring this. Player agency doesn't change this reality. "
But the other routes don't happen when the game is as the Dev said! It literally didn't happen, you have a problem with a what if scenario. In another routes you either pushed the FMC away or she is a completely different character that is a slut or easy to seduce. She is like an evil version of a parallel universe. These games are not so deep that you can only understand a char if you play every available route. The chars can just be randomly different with no connection.
"You're just making up a hypothetical situation to attempt to dodge my point which is disingenuous, because there are literally thousands of manga and hundreds of games with NTR where the protagonist can make all of the "correct" choices, and "treat a woman correctly" and he still gets cucked. Often the choices that lead to cuckoldry are entirely arbitrary. None of what you said is even relevant to my core point however, which you've either misunderstood or are ignoring because you have no counter point."
I fear you are the one disingenuous here because your examples are of pure NTR content that is designed to happen. We are speaking about a game where the dev literally said NTR and non-NTR are distinct routes and you still have a problem with it. If you do the right choices nothing bad will happen.
@Ragingrager
"I never said it should be of concern to the dev if they don't care about losing such people. You don't seem be able to handle that people have a vastly different view point on these things then yourself and have flipped the fuck out about it. Putting words in my mouth that I never said or implied, have painted everyone not like yourself as mentally ill which really paints you in a great light let me tell ya. You seem geniuely threatened by what I said which I find funny.
However as already stated you're still wrong, she's not your golden girl, because narratively its known to the player that there are options where shes easily seduced by just interacting with another man and gives into them even if you have treated her well in the game(Depending on the game). This not uncommon in these types of games, it shows a disloyal part of the characters personality if she would ever betray you for any reason."
My issue was that your original statement seemed so far fetched as if arbitary trying to take an issue with the game eventhough it offers you different paths that have nothing to do with each other. They are different realities.
Look, to take some heat off, I apologize for my comment in regards to mental health. It was on the spur of the moment because your reasoning is so alien to me. It was wrong and I honestly meant to offense to you.
"darkdepths, if you could see the future and the outcomes of various actions and you know that if you ever let your woman go to a bar by herself she will cheat on you, but if you always stop her from doing so that she stays loyal. Does this not tell you something negative about this person? I ask this question because this is a fairly common sort of choice in optional ntr games broadly speaking."
Again, the FMC of one path is a different person than on the other. These paths are not meant to complement each other, porn games are not so deep. And to be fair, these what ifs also have to take into account your actions. If you hardly know the woman and make no move on her or if you treat her bad of course she will look for someone different.
But I would say we each showed our point and we will not bea able to convince each other.
"I'm curious darkdepths, how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast? This is an important question."
Ironically I just ate breakfast and before that I felt hungry. :-D
Damn I scrolled this thread looking for more info on the actual story of the game, for example: Is the MC a horse cock shota or is the stepfather sleeping with the mother considered NTR but instead all I'm seeing is the NTR haters whining about content that's both advertised before playing and avoidable. At this point I'm convinced the NTR haters are loli lovers who know when the loli's grow up they'll be ntr'd.
Knowing that a person will do something if you pick a different path, doesn't change the fact they would do that if you let them go to a bar by themselves or some other option. Not all NTR options are the player treating someone badly. These pathes are things the character would do and thats all that matters.
No because there games where the NTR is avoidable and it will happen if the player just picks some random option that has nothing to do with the player treating her badly. You pretending otherwise doesn't change this reality.
Actually he didn't say that literally, he said it is avoidable and you can pretend it doesn't exist. Pretending something doesn't exist doesn't make it not exist if you have the view point that I mentioned in previous posts. But what is literally true is that I haven't made a comment on this game directly except that I have a feeling it won't have proper revenge or come comeuppance for the people trying to cuck you and that I haven't played it yet. These are the only direct statements on this game that I have made. I honestly don't know why you can't understand my posts and keep putting words in to my mouth that I never said. Which you have done multiple times now.
It's not far fetched, people on this very forum, on other websites, have stated what I have said as an opinion or how they see it. Characters are characters, people see optional pathes that a character takes, as canon to that that character in the sense that what happens in that route is true to their reaction. Just because a porn game "isn't serious" doesn't change that fact. Just because you don't see it that way. Doesn't mean anything, other people do. A lot of people like to play all routes to explain the different characters reactions to learn more about them and in this situation what is learned is negative for people who interested in certain character traits. Just because you aren't doesn't really mean anything.
Also as I stated before, ntr fans have pointed out why they WANT the vanilla routes which enchances their fetish. However for others that don't want a disloyal waifu or whatever the hell the game is going for in that sense, it is a detraction for them. It can go both ways, you can not agree with these people, you can not like it. That doesn't change anything about the situation however. I haven't even stated my direct opinion on this.
None of this was an answer to my question, it was a dodge/deflection because you know the answer is that you would see it in a negative light. Anyone would really unless they want their partner to cheat. Secondly the dev actually hasn't said that the routes aren't meant to complement each anywhere in this thread, he has not stated that the other routes aren't canon or that there is no canon in this thread. I think it would be a cop out if he did really. Like I said before, people often do see the routes as complementary to the overall game-play experience for reasons I stated above for the pro ntr people.
I think this is true, but I don't believe you have engaged any of my points because you've made it seem like I have said a bunch of things that I never said in the first place, and you have made statements for the dev that he has never said in this thread at least. My personal guess here, is that you're worried that my comment will somehow change this devs opinion on NTR or something and you see this a threat to your fetish. This is just spectulation. I didn't even tell the dev to remove it, I just gave an explaination on some peoples reaction to the entire genre without advice all.
Once again my actual direct comment on the game was that it probably won't let me fuck over the bull/guy trying to cuck me and I think that is lame as fuck and a waste of a villain.
Interesting answer.
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walls and walls of text and I don't know if this game is good or not
NTR discussion is a bitch
NTR discussion is a bitch
You two do realise, that he just made a parody of other post, which was deleted cus it started that NTR nonsense in this thread?