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Vetrais

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Having trouble getting these.
I'll be starting work on implementing a better hint system for the gallery scenes this weekend that we're planning on getting out in a future release. But from a quick peek at your screenshots I believe all of them are due to branching designed into the game. Basically, a lot of decisions have different cutscenes available based on what you decided previously. There is no path that will unlock all the scenes in a single playthrough (outside of using either a gallery unlocker or a cheat mod though we don't recommend that). Going the love vs. lust path with Mareike, how you decide to spend time on Day 4, how you decide to explore Philipp's evening, etc...
 

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Because I didn't think the (outlined) text was readable enough on some backgrounds, I created this small mod that adds a textbox, as well as an opacity slider in the Preferences screen.
Download, open the file in notepad to double-check that I'm not sending malicious code, then drop the file in the 'Family Vacation\game' directory and (re)start the game.

As a bonus, this code also fixes the "Window" checkbox on the Fullscreen/Window choice.

Edit: Added some code that made the phone invisible unless hovered over with the cursor. (If on mobile, change line 4 to say 0.2 instead of 0.0)

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Irgendwie Irgendwo

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Hmmmm, yeah that's nice. Just one problem: I started the path with the secretary, but she only showed me her breasts once and nothing further. However, the game thinks that something more has already happened. (Chapter 5)

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after trying this one - unfortunately it's too much for me, it could be a very nice harem incest game (in a better world), but whole sharing/swinging part is so forceful and often completely unavoidable - it's borderline ntr
i mean, "Masters of the Island" for example - it is sharing fuckfest, but it feels like sharing fuckfest... but here? it feels like you get ntred half of the time, for fuck sake - even a dog fucks both of your daughters before MC, you only get sloppy seconds after it and whole bunch of random dudes before you
Thank you for the heads up.
 
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Thank you for the heads up.
Meh, it's a fringe opinion based on a poor definition (and "feeling") of NTR. I hate NTR games just as the next person, but I had no problem with the sharing in this game - and it's optional at that. When it comes to the dog, just download the "normal" version. Of course, if you think that any girl in the game should be deflowered by your MC, then this is not your game. If you're strong enough to handle mentions of off-screen sex, you'll be fine with this one. ;-)
 

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If you're strong enough to handle mentions of off-screen sex, you'll be fine with this one. ;-)
This is probably a slip of the tongue, but I don't see how it has to do with "strength" instead of preferences.
There are some aspects of this game I like, others aren't to my taste at all.

Likes:
  • That everyone has a life that doesn't revolve around the MC
  • It makes obvious from the start that none of the characters are his
  • That we're seeing multiple points of view. For me, the son's perspective is way more interesting than what the father has going on
  • Plenty of choices that seem in-character.

Dislikes:
  • Everyone is lust-driven, it's all about sex and getting off, with very little nuance.
  • This same drive from lust doesn't scratch my romance itch. At least the son's story of self-discovery and likes/dislikes provide some hooks and curiosity. I would like this game more if it was entirely from his perspective; a young adult growing up in such a sexually charged household, trying to navigate his own feelings, wants and needs when it comes to relationships.
  • A trifecta tattoo to commemorate a MMF threesome? Really? I expected her to be covered in tats after the prologue, or at least have some dedicated to her children.
  • If you try to refuse the mother-in-law, she has her way regardless, and he's just OK with it and the consequences.
    I understand why the MC takes responsibility; it takes two to tango. At the same time, he's taking responsibility so Granny can "live her best life", avoiding hers. That's a simp move.
  • Father catches his daughter fucking the dog, and he seems OK with it? He thinks it's hot, and doesn't once question if he made mistakes while parenting. Though, this is just a symptom of a larger point, that the MC isn't doing all that much parenting at all.
    (Or maybe this is simply a lack of good telegraphing for choices. I kept watching the daughter not because I thought it was hot, but because I wanted to embarrass her after she discovered me looking.)
  • The visuals. Often, characters just seem pasted on a background, floating above the floor. Boob sizes change, or furniture shifts/rotates when people open their mouths... There's a distinct lack of detail (arguably even effort) in this game's visual design.
 
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This is probably a slip of the tongue, but I don't see how it has to do with "strength" instead of preferences.
I was needling the boys that want all LIs in their games to be untouched virgins. Sorry, mom, I won't do it again. :p

Father catches his daughter fucking the dog, and he seems OK with it? He thinks it's hot, and doesn't once question if he made mistakes while parenting.
Hu? I thought I remembered that as the MC you could be upset about it and tell her to stop.
 
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Hu? I thought I remembered that as the MC you could be upset about it and tell her to stop.
If you see her with the dog, and wait for her in the garden, MC will say: "What should I tell her? I could attack her [or] admit that it mad[e] me hot."
If you then ask her to stop, he'll think: "Damn. I can't believe the distraction of attacking her really worked!"

This implies that he's only telling her to stop because he doesn't want to admit that it excited him seeing her like this. There's no route that allows the MC to be actually disgusted by this, or disappointed in her behavior. Even earlier (I think it's chapter 7), they'll talk about her activities with the dog in vague terms, and here he'll only tell her to be careful, and that the dog shouldn't forget who's the master.
 

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If you see her with the dog, and wait for her in the garden, MC will say: "What should I tell her? I could attack her [or] admit that it mad[e] me hot."
If you then ask her to stop, he'll think: "Damn. I can't believe the distraction of attacking her really worked!"

This implies that he's only telling her to stop because he doesn't want to admit that it excited him seeing her like this. There's no route that allows the MC to be actually disgusted by this, or disappointed in her behavior. Even earlier (I think it's chapter 7), they'll talk about her activities with the dog in vague terms, and here he'll only tell her to be careful, and that the dog shouldn't forget who's the master.
There are other dialogue choices that you just didn't see in your current playthrough. He will also tell her "I don't like what you are doing with the dog." and "I would like to ask you to stop this once and for all!" depending on what previous choices you made. There are various levels on how it's received if I recall correctly as well.

In that particular branch of the path you went down, those were the only those 2 options... based on your previous choices. There are a lot of minor variations and differences based on previous choices in this game.
 
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In that particular branch of the path you went down, those were the only those 2 options... based on your previous choices. There are a lot of minor variations and differences based on previous choices in this game.
I checked the code and you're right. Though this is what I meant with: "(Or maybe this is simply a lack of good telegraphing for choices. I kept watching the daughter not because I thought it was hot, but because I wanted to embarrass her after she discovered me looking.)".

If I wanted to admonish her, then I should've knocked instead of opening the door. The game assumes that I'm opening the door because I want to see the scene, not because I wanted to make her feel embarrassed.
 

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I checked the code and you're right. Though this is what I meant with: "(Or maybe this is simply a lack of good telegraphing for choices. I kept watching the daughter not because I thought it was hot, but because I wanted to embarrass her after she discovered me looking.)".

If I wanted to admonish her, then I should've knocked instead of opening the door. The game assumes that I'm opening the door because I want to see the scene, not because I wanted to make her feel embarrassed.
To be fair, if I were in that situation, I don't think I'd intentionally want to walk in on that just in an attempt to try to embarrass my child. There are far easier ways that wouldn't also leave that image burned into my head for the remainder of my days. So I personally see the knock and interrupt it and discuss it later route as being almost note for note what I'd expect it to be. But it's good feedback. Just in case he doesn't see these posts, I'll make sure to mention it to MCK next time we chat as well.

But at the same time, that's kind of the crux of the challenge of writing stuff like this. There are always countless ways to handle situations, but only a handful, at best, are ever implemented into any particular game. This becomes an even bigger challenge as other languages come into play as what words mean vs. what is meant to be said can easily shift apart. Chapter 10 is the first one I've been part of the development of, and I tried to ensure that shift was diminished while helping recode and clean up the flow of things. Eventually, I'm hoping we can revisit previous chapters as well to clean it up.
 
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But at the same time, that's kind of the crux of the challenge of writing stuff like this. There are always countless ways to handle situations, but only a handful, at best, are ever implemented into any particular game. This becomes an even bigger challenge as other languages come into play as what words mean vs. what is meant to be said can easily shift apart. Chapter 10 is the first one I've been part of the development of, and I tried to ensure that shift was diminished while helping recode and clean up the flow of things. Eventually, I'm hoping we can revisit previous chapters as well to clean it up.
Oh, absolutely. And having gleaned at the code, I'm impressed with how many combinations and requirements there are for different routes. Having played only a fraction of the combinations (I declined several LI), it still amazes me that a small choice can lead to wildly different outcomes.

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In the case of the bestiality, simply rewording the choice could be enough. Something like "Fuck, that sounds hot, I need to see that." would make it abundantly clear how the MC would feel about it when the player picks this choice.
 
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To be fair on that, your 2nd point did kind of start describing a completely different game you'd like more than this. Not saying there can't be constructive criticism taken from any point, but I chuckled when I read that solely because it reminded me of this cooking show clip.



In case you don't trust the link, you can search for "If my Grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike". It's a true classic of a quote and encapsulates well the problem with you can only stretch the changes of something soo far before it just becomes something else entirely.
 
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To be fair on that, your 2nd point did kind of start describing a completely different game you'd like more than this. Not saying there can't be constructive criticism taken from any point, but I chuckled when I read that solely because it reminded me of this cooking show clip.
I see your point, but don't entirely agree with it. In my playthrough, the son had a heart-to-heart with his dad. He showed some insecurities about sharing his girlfriend with him. He felt that dad went behind his back. So, in my opinion, many of the aspects I mentioned are already in the game. Same for the son (optionally) exploring bisexuality.
I'm certainly not telling the dev to rework his game to suit my tastes, or at least, I hope it doesn't come across that way. That said, my point stands, that I enjoy that nuance and content more than just a fuckfest, and hope to see more of it.
 

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I see your point, but don't entirely agree with it. In my playthrough, the son had a heart-to-heart with his dad. He showed some insecurities about sharing his girlfriend with him. He felt that dad went behind his back. So, in my opinion, many of the aspects I mentioned are already in the game. Same for the son (optionally) exploring bisexuality.
I'm certainly not telling the dev to rework his game to suit my tastes, or at least, I hope it doesn't come across that way. That said, my point stands, that I enjoy that nuance and content more than just a fuckfest, and hope to see more of it.
I'm glad to hear you liked those parts. And I do get what you're saying, but at the end of the day the main character is not going through much of a romance arc because he is already comfortable with who he is, regardless of how much content the player decides to take him through. He faces his battles and decisions, but by his very nature, romance isn't a major part of it. It makes sense for the son to struggle through stuff like that as he's finding his place in the world, but he is one of many supporting characters of the MC's family and circle. Each of the other family members also brings their own mini-arcs and struggles into the story. And through each of them, we hope to give other aspects and experiences. But we wouldn't want them all to be too similar, as then there really isn't a point to having different characters.

By that nature, the game is more like a buffet, with many different types of supporting characters and arcs. Each one of them brings something slightly different, and between them all is the common factor of seeing them primarily through the MC and how he experiences them. Some will resonate better with you, and others won't. But because of that, those aspects are, by nature, limited in scope as they are sharing screen time and work with the rest. So yeah, saying that you'd want more story from Philipps perspective or in his style would be a different game in my opinion. Which circles us back to grandmothers and wheels. :p
 

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Quetzzz more or less said it all already. In principle it's a nice game with much going on. However, with light also comes darkness.
I am wondering though why the MC is married to Country singer Jennifer Nettles.

JNet.jpg

The Good:


+ Setting. We don't often get a game in Germany and / or France. The mentioning of the half sister situation in the Bavarian Alps had me chuckling. (As far as I know the most well-known "Incest Area" in Germany is the Eifel mountains in North Rhine-Westphalia.)
+ Customization. Anything you don't want to see can be eliminated easily. For me, golden showers, the dog, possible gay content, a possible additional pregnancy and trans content are all gone. And most of them haven't shown up again.
+ lots of erotic scenes with varied partners
+ the denomination of the game as not focused on just one person, but being considerate of the whole family makes it easy for me to explore additional content
+ integration of other languages, at least a little bit
+ two POV in later chapters

The Neutral:


o there is not much flesh to the story as of yet, mostly just a succession of sex scenes... [Case in point: Most of the characters still in Munich, like Mareike or the Karate training partner become pointless unless they are showing up in France, which is unlikely. That bribery attempt seems to be just done away easily by ratting the guy out and consulting Anne.]
o ...plus it takes a long time to get going. I have no idea how long it took from initial release to Chapter 7 when the main topic finally started, but I assume it was quite a long time for players who started when it first came out.
o Devs with the new member should really go over old content to eliminate spelling errors and wrong variables that lead to "false people speaking".
o Some incorrectly named stuff. How is Leni's scene with her French gigolo considered NTR when she isn'T even in a full relationship with the MC? I mean, she is and has always been free to do whatever she wants.
o Just my take, and call me hypocrite, but I think the story around Kiara should have more options. I wished there would have been an opportunity to encourage her to move to the USA for a model career, but if she does porn shootings she's on her own financially. I mean she's an adult an can do what she wants, but if she wants to throw her future away (as any serious employers are guaranteed to find out about that through background checks) she's on her own buck. Always welcome home, though, if she needs support.

The Ugly:

- While we don't see any Beastiality content per se it's clear that there is something fishy going on with Tyras' behaviour and the moaning coming from Claudia, ahem, Franziska's room. No horse has showed up yet, though. (Bonus points if you're getting the reference.) So, for everybody into that, no problem with the content being in the VN, but could you please still tone that down a little? Much obliged.
- The game suggests that things happened that did not. For example, Anne said she wanted to join MC and Mareike, when nothing has happened yet. Yes, I started the path, but nothing came out of it with decisions to prioritise the family. Also, Anne is fed up with the MC that he started something with Kiara and Franziska, which is just not true as I haven't encountered a single sex scene with Franzi and the MC. There are several with Kiara and the MC. [Also, if you ask me, she is a bit hypocritical being against incest when she does the same with her own mom.]
- Nothing much going on with the phone. For the minimal interaction it takes up a lot of space on the screen. Yes, you can turn it off, but that makes the text vanish, too, so the option is not practical.
- Some comical background effects, like shadows vanishing from one frame to the other and then being back.
- I get that maybe there is not enough talent in the team for full animation for scenes, and yes, the late 2010s have called and want their blending effects back, so that can't be changed. However, those scenes are IMO way too short, offer in most cases just one position and the limited back-and-forth movement makes the males look like four-pump-chumps.
 
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Quetzzz more or less said it all already. In principle it's a nice game with much going on. However, with light also comes darkness.
I am wondering though why the MC is married to Country singer Jennifer Nettles.

View attachment 4292012

The Good:

+ Setting. We don't often get a game in Germany and / or France. The mentioning of the half sister situation in the Bavarian Alps had me chuckling. (As far as I know the most well-known "Incest Area" in Germany is the Eifel mountains in North Rhine-Westphalia.)
+ Customization. Anything you don't want to see can be eliminated easily. For me, golden showers, the dog, possible gay content, a possible additional pregnancy and trans content are all gone. And most of them haven't shown up again.
+ lots of erotic scenes with varied partners
+ the denomination of the game as not focused on just one person, but being considerate of the whole family makes it easy for me to explore additional content
+ integration of other languages, at least a little bit
+ two POV in later chapters

The Neutral:

o there is not much flesh to the story as of yet, mostly just a succession of sex scenes... [Case in point: Most of the characters still in Munich, like Mareike or the Karate training partner become pointless unless they are showing up in France, which is unlikely. That bribery attempt seems to be just done away easily by ratting the guy out and consulting Anne.]
o ...plus it takes a long time to get going. I have no idea how long it took from initial release to Chapter 7 when the main topic finally started, but I assume it was quite a long time for players who started when it first came out.
o Devs with the new member should really go over old content to eliminate spelling errors and wrong variables that lead to "false people speaking".
o Some incorrectly named stuff. How is Leni's scene with her French gigolo considered NTR when she isn'T even in a full relationship with the MC? I mean, she is and has always been free to do whatever she wants.
o Just my take, and call me hypocrite, but I think the story around Kiara should have more options. I wished there would have been an opportunity to encourage her to move to the USA for a model career, but if she does porn shootings she's on her own financially. I mean she's an adult an can do what she wants, but if she wants to throw her future away (as any serious employers are guaranteed to find out about that through background checks) she's on her own buck. Always welcome home, though, if she needs support.

The Ugly:

- While we don't see any Beastiality content per se it's clear that there is something fishy going on with Tyras' behaviour and the moaning coming from Claudia, ahem, Franziska's room. No horse has showed up yet, though. (Bonus points if you're getting the reference.) So, for everybody into that, no problem with the content being in the VN, but could you please still tone that down a little? Much obliged.
- The game suggests that things happened that did not. For example, Anne said she wanted to join MC and Mareike, when nothing has happened yet. Yes, I started the path, but nothing came out of it with decisions to prioritise the family. Also, Anne is fed up with the MC that he started something with Kiara and Franziska, which is just not true as I haven't encountered a single sex scene with Franzi and the MC. There are several with Kiara and the MC. [Also, if you ask me, she is a bit hypocritical being against incest when she does the same with her own mom.]
- Nothing much going on with the phone. For the minimal interaction it takes up a lot of space on the screen. Yes, you can turn it off, but that makes the text vanish, too, so the option is not practical.
- Some comical background effects, like shadows vanishing from one frame to the other and then being back.
- I get that maybe there is not enough talent in the team for full animation for scenes, and yes, the late 2010s have called and want their blending effects back, so that can't be changed. However, those scenes are IMO way too short, offer in most cases just one position and the limited back-and-forth movement makes the males look like four-pump-chumps.
A few posts up I attached a file that makes the phone transparent unless you hover over it.

I fully agree with the phone being too big regardless though.
 

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Just got this error with Franzi in the club:

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/Chapters/chapter09/chapter09_scene06.rpy", line 111, in script
    if franzi_spy == 10 or franzi_alej == True:
  File "game/Chapters/chapter09/chapter09_scene06.rpy", line 111, in <module>
    if franzi_spy == 10 or franzi_alej == True:
NameError: name 'franzi_spy' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/Chapters/chapter09/chapter09_scene06.rpy", line 111, in script
    if franzi_spy == 10 or franzi_alej == True:
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 2133, in execute
    if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
  File "renpy/python.py", line 1153, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "renpy/python.py", line 1146, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/Chapters/chapter09/chapter09_scene06.rpy", line 111, in <module>
    if franzi_spy == 10 or franzi_alej == True:
NameError: name 'franzi_spy' is not defined

Windows-10-10.0.22621 AMD64
Ren'Py 7.6.2.23090503
Family Vacation 0.10.SE.18
Tue Dec  3 19:57:54 2024
Not sure why it's undefined, or what the value should be
 
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