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Well, for sure it fits the logic of previous events in the game but that guy is not even present in the previous spoilers.
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Stop guessing blindly. It`s kinda annoying already. End of this working week.at this point the update will be next week
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All things come to those who waitat this point the update will be next week
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friend I am free to express opinions, we are not in a dictatorship
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no weekend updates have ever been released, so if the work percentage finishes this weekend the release will be on Monday
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End of this working week.no weekend updates have ever been released, so if the work percentage finishes this weekend the release will be on Monday
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As I told the DM yesterday, nobody will appreciate the effort, energy, and time you’ve invested in this scene.
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DM has spoiled FB players too much with relatively frequent updates. Many players who also follow other top AVNs wait for updates for half a year or more...And this is considered normal and in the order of things..So even the current “delayed” Ep5 v1 release still looks much more advantageous than what the devs of most other AVNs can boast..
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You are right we have been spoiled with DM's prolific update schedule over the years so like you this delay hasn't bothered me on it's own. What bothers me is the reason for the delay. I'm specifically talking about the 5000 render "dlc" he produced for a game barely anyone wanted, I'd say no one who posts here wanted it. I'm not concerned he wants to try new things with this updates boxing animations. I'm curious to see how they turn out and will wait until I've seen them to comment if I think it was worth the effort and time.DM has spoiled FB players too much with relatively frequent updates. Many players who also follow other top AVNs wait for updates for half a year or more...And this is considered normal and in the order of things..So even the current “delayed” Ep5 v1 release still looks much more advantageous than what the devs of most other AVNs can boast..
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What I have seen as a bit of a red flag over the past 12 months is the Dev Blogs asking patreons to give ideas and outlines where they would like the story to go. One aspect of DM's development I really respect was his iron will to produce the game he wanted to produce. Often he would answer questions about why Monica is the way she is or why this or that isn't happening with "I'm making the game I want to make" or "this is the vision I have for the game" or most often, stayed silent. Those who liked what was being made hung around and those who didn't moved on.
It ended up as FB being a very consistent game with (until the Monica and Fred home storyline) not any schizophrenic behaviour from Monica. That was a huge plus this game had over most other, particularly female protagonist games I had played. Usually the developer tries to please anyone who throws some money at them and the game ends up making no sense or as we have talked about in the past, a happy slut simulator. Anna Exciting Affection is the best example of this I can think of.
To get back to your point about a developer staying in "love" with his project. I 100% agree. DM has clearly managed this throughout the years to his and our benefit. I'd put forward the main reason for that is he stayed on point with his vision and didn't get sidetracked producing content some of his patreons would have been asking for but he wasn't interested in. As I said I think many developers lose interest in their projects because in trying to please paying customers they end up working on content that is not in their own interest and instead of being enjoyable it becomes just a chore.
This is where I feel a bit of a red flag lately from those Dev Blogs. If he is making content because a prominent patreon has asked for it but he wouldn't have made that scene otherwise, FB stops being a joy to work on and just becomes work. I believe the Monica Fred home content is the first example of DM producing content because of fan requests. I suspect we have seen some scenes in the last few updates that were made for the same reasons. When you add in him doing that DLC work on top of doing fan request scenes, it's no wonder he wants to play around with some boxing animations, to do something he wants between doing scenes he may not be that interested in making.
Anyway the wait is almost over, hope you are right and it's legendary. Though you and I have disagreed on what is good or not lately so we will see.
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Yesterday...
Now go back in time and tell him a couple of years ago that he:
- should not make optionless scenes; to see pay2porn brunch in a scene or not to see it for free - that's not optionS; anyway it influence on nothing during gameplay;
- should not make linear scenario in a sandbox porn game; even if after all some choices will lead to a poor number of endings - it's not good to replay WHOLE game from 1st scene to see something different just in the end of the game, while during the main gameplay are just all the same linear line of events, whatever you choose or do, in major - without any variations or different scenes if to play differently; so tell him in past - not to do that bad, as he did by current momment;
- should not cut out Bardie but just replace his model with older looking character (like those punks in the park and on dirty streets), re-render scenes with him and add new;
- should not cut out routes:
+ should not cut out route where Monica was able to rent a room in apartment of the Blondie;
+ should not cut out route where a Chinese looking girl from a down-floor office was trying to remember where she could see someone like Monica before (sell a dress quest) but still didn't rememberes it;
+ should not cut out route where the colaboration with hotel prostitutes and Monica's strip club have just begun; there were just a couple of scenes about that, but oh boy, just anyone can imagine a tonn of events about that hot stuff, but not DM;
+ should not cut out route where a redhead cheap prostitute was caught doing a side business in Monica's strip club toiled cabine, with a gloryhole there; Monica can accept and expand that service, and involve more whores from dirty streets there;
+ should not cut out route with 2 police men, who were ordering a blowjob in a gloryhole of Monica's strip club, but something goes wrong and Monica had to serve them both in the same time instead of redhead slut; however, cops get a great service that time and they said that they going to visit this club more frequently becuse they liked the service, and that's a whole route about how Monica will be organising their pleasure, and stying incognito, or get revealed and blackmailed, whatever; anyway it's cut out, DM "efforts" said that one scene is enough with cops in the strip club. I hope he didn't over-tired because of that huge hard work over 1 scene per route;
+ should not cout out route with young punks, who fooled Monica twice already, and they were talking that in times when previous girl who rented this flat - that flat was know as legendary perverted, but we don't know what have happened with that girl, she just disapeared, but she could get back once of a sudden, they will have some concurency and insultive talkings with Monica at 1st, but then they will become companions or gonna make a perverted competition for this flat to rent, depending from player's choices; and punks still have just limited perverted fun with Monica, she still didn't allow them to fuck her ass, so many events still could and should happen with thous punks, including public sex and kinky stuff that those sick punks can invent by their dirty animal minds; but thanks to DM "efforts" it all just gone, without a trace, like nothing happened, and punks never appeared again;
+ should not cut out route where Monica was able to rent a room together with those two luxury looking prostitutes, to have respectable clients together with them in the hotel;
+ should not cut out route where Monica became a street whore "forever", that's not a bad ending, a lot of events could happen next from this point to continue the game, but he cut it right in the moment when all the fun just started;
+ should not cut out route where Monica was able to rent a room together with those two cheaper looking prostitutes, or instead of them, to have middle class clients together with them or alone, with the help of that young guy who's taking rent money for this flat of his parents;
+ should not cut out routes, that became "bad endings" - it was actually just opportunities for (finaly!) non-linear a brunches - the different ways by which Monica could still perform next quests and go to her main quest aim with correspondent context, that she became a property of hotel, or a dirty street whore, or passed through the basement pet contract, or... or anything else. Even if that was announced as "forever", 'cmon, that's Monica! That iron lady can deal with anything, no matter how dirty it was, and be a winner in the end;
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i can continue a list of DM's f ups for several more pages, without spaces, with font size 6, but your blind supportive attitude will still call that kind of bad work with words
that should not be pronounced even close with all that mess and castrated options linear sandbox scenario;
However - renders are nice. Scenario is castrated. Options are limited to 1 paid and 1 free. And he is still continue to reduce the content just to finish it asap, like he hates this game or get tired from it. Whatever. So if you love this game - you should want to fix it. Go back in time-car, travel back in time, and tell him not to make this mistakes and fiascos that he did by the current moment. That's the only friendly option of can do to help this game to not to be ruined by DM's own hands and mind.
Be healthy.
p.s. and yes, i know some guys can hate me without even reading much-of-letters. i'm fine about that. at least they are good in something, if not in reading, then in not-reading and hating. Peace.
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I won't quote your post in its entirety, I'll just say that in general I agree with almost everything you wrote. And yes, my hatred for Fred and Monica's delusional behavior with him is still just as hot. So what you're assuming about those scenes can't be ruled out either.Anyway the wait is almost over, hope you are right and it's legendary. Though you and I have disagreed on what is good or not lately so we will see.
Well, you and I have a lot of things we agree on, exemplified by this post you wrote, which I have no questions or objections to. However, you and I have always disagreed on what our lovely Monica actually deserves. You know my position on her, and I know your position. I think, that has never changed...
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do you realize that with all that stuff it would take another 10 years of development?)Yesterday...
Now go back in time and tell him a couple of years ago that he:
- should not make optionless scenes; to see pay2porn brunch in a scene or not to see it for free - that's not optionS; anyway it influence on nothing during gameplay;
- should not make linear scenario in a sandbox porn game; even if after all some choices will lead to a poor number of endings - it's not good to replay WHOLE game from 1st scene to see something different just in the end of the game, while during the main gameplay are just all the same linear line of events, whatever you choose or do, in major - without any variations or different scenes if to play differently; so tell him in past - not to do that bad, as he did by current momment;
- should not cut out Bardie but just replace his model with older looking character (like those punks in the park and on dirty streets), re-render scenes with him and add new;
- should not cut out routes:
+ should not cut out route where Monica was able to rent a room in apartment of the Blondie;
+ should not cut out route where a Chinese looking girl from a down-floor office was trying to remember where she could see someone like Monica before (sell a dress quest) but still didn't rememberes it;
+ should not cut out route where the colaboration with hotel prostitutes and Monica's strip club have just begun; there were just a couple of scenes about that, but oh boy, just anyone can imagine a tonn of events about that hot stuff, but not DM;
+ should not cut out route where a redhead cheap prostitute was caught doing a side business in Monica's strip club toiled cabine, with a gloryhole there; Monica can accept and expand that service, and involve more whores from dirty streets there;
+ should not cut out route with 2 police men, who were ordering a blowjob in a gloryhole of Monica's strip club, but something goes wrong and Monica had to serve them both in the same time instead of redhead slut; however, cops get a great service that time and they said that they going to visit this club more frequently becuse they liked the service, and that's a whole route about how Monica will be organising their pleasure, and stying incognito, or get revealed and blackmailed, whatever; anyway it's cut out, DM "efforts" said that one scene is enough with cops in the strip club. I hope he didn't over-tired because of that huge hard work over 1 scene per route;
+ should not cout out route with young punks, who fooled Monica twice already, and they were talking that in times when previous girl who rented this flat - that flat was know as legendary perverted, but we don't know what have happened with that girl, she just disapeared, but she could get back once of a sudden, they will have some concurency and insultive talkings with Monica at 1st, but then they will become companions or gonna make a perverted competition for this flat to rent, depending from player's choices; and punks still have just limited perverted fun with Monica, she still didn't allow them to fuck her ass, so many events still could and should happen with thous punks, including public sex and kinky stuff that those sick punks can invent by their dirty animal minds; but thanks to DM "efforts" it all just gone, without a trace, like nothing happened, and punks never appeared again;
+ should not cut out route where Monica was able to rent a room together with those two luxury looking prostitutes, to have respectable clients together with them in the hotel;
+ should not cut out route where Monica became a street whore "forever", that's not a bad ending, a lot of events could happen next from this point to continue the game, but he cut it right in the moment when all the fun just started;
+ should not cut out route where Monica was able to rent a room together with those two cheaper looking prostitutes, or instead of them, to have middle class clients together with them or alone, with the help of that young guy who's taking rent money for this flat of his parents;
+ should not cut out routes, that became "bad endings" - it was actually just opportunities for (finaly!) non-linear a brunches - the different ways by which Monica could still perform next quests and go to her main quest aim with correspondent context, that she became a property of hotel, or a dirty street whore, or passed through the basement pet contract, or... or anything else. Even if that was announced as "forever", 'cmon, that's Monica! That iron lady can deal with anything, no matter how dirty it was, and be a winner in the end;
...
i can continue a list of DM's f ups for several more pages, without spaces, with font size 6, but your blind supportive attitude will still call that kind of bad work with words
that should not be pronounced even close with all that mess and castrated options linear sandbox scenario;
However - renders are nice. Scenario is castrated. Options are limited to 1 paid and 1 free. And he is still continue to reduce the content just to finish it asap, like he hates this game or get tired from it. Whatever. So if you love this game - you should want to fix it. Go back in time-car, travel back in time, and tell him not to make this mistakes and fiascos that he did by the current moment. That's the only friendly option of can do to help this game to not to be ruined by DM's own hands and mind.
Be healthy.
p.s. and yes, i know some guys can hate me without even reading much-of-letters. i'm fine about that. at least they are good in something, if not in reading, then in not-reading and hating. Peace.
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So, this is another way of saying that some really big scene is coming and that scene was one of the reasons why the update hasn't been released sooner?
Yeah, it is my main gripe. I mean it would be much more fun if there were a few events on each ending branch. Just a couple for each would be enough to show a new life for Monica according to a particular ending. It would not take that much time, certainly not 10 years, probably two (or three) more updates.
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