VN Ren'Py Fate and Life: The Mystery of Vaulinhorn [Ch. 12] [Celestial Novel]

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exazubi said:
First of all, only models have been exchanged. Which doesn't change anything about the game's story itself. That means the game itself stays the same. I understand that you have your favourites. But seriously, the new models look way more realistic and hotter than the ones before. Ok, that's a matter of taste of course.

Second. I am a private book author. And when you're writing a book, it's also normal to change and improve existing text so that it reads better and has more atmosphere. Just as it is normal with games that optical improvements are made. In every book and game there are rough drafts of scenes that are rewritten and changed umpteen times before the final version is published. The only difference here is that you get to see the raw versions.

Third. A game is the work, the imagination, of the developer. You as a consumer are a guest. You can be enthusiastic about a product or not. But you can't expect it to be perfectly tailored to your taste. You are just one of many. a developer cannot please everyone. Mainly the work has to please the developer himself. iI that doesn't do it, you can assume that the full version will never come. Development consumes a lot of lifetime. And no one invests it in something they don't like themselves.

I would recommend you to get off your high horse, show some respect to the developer, give him/her a fair chance, and try to get excited about the game that you liked before despite the change.
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Or you could realize that having a model in a game for what a year now? And then suddenly swapping it to a model that I don't see how anyone could argue looks half as good. It's like you were using Genesis models from several revisions back or something... aside from the subjective difference in attractiveness, the model itself just looks like it has much lower resolution.

To exaggerate a bit, it would be like going from Death Stranding graphics to World of Warcraft and insisting that it looks just as good.

I would 100% expect people to be upset if I was 6 major releases into a game and just decided to swap out one of the characters with someone who doesn't look anything like the original person aside from being a female with dark hair.

Heck, I've seen people get upset about more than that... redrawing a main character and just changing her face a bit in the 2D game "Resident X"... or in "Single Again" they updated the engine/models and tried very hard to make them look the same, but a LOT of people were upset about that because it wasn't quite right and they'd fallen in love with the original look.

We're playing PORN GAMES here. Not fine literature. If you swap out one of the main beautiful women 6 major revisions into a game, when the APPEARANCE of the women is one of the PRIME REASONS ANYONE IS PLAYING TO BEGIN WITH, then if you think people don't have any right to complain or won't complain, then frankly I don't know what to tell you.

People choose which characters they're interested in in part based on appearance.

So if a player "falls in love" with a woman in the game, based at least in good part on their appearance, and then you swap out their pretend video game girlfriend a year later... it seems the height of absurdity to expect nobody to have any problem with it. "Don't mind me, I just swapped out your crush with a girl who looks nothing like her."
 
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phreadom said:
We're playing PORN GAMES here. Not fine literature. If you swap out one of the main beautiful women 6 major revisions into a game, when the APPEARANCE of the women is one of the PRIME REASONS ANYONE IS PLAYING TO BEGIN WITH, then if you think people don't have any right to complain or won't complain, then frankly I don't know what to tell you.

People choose which characters they're interested in in part based on appearance.
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Exactly. I started playing because I saw a character that grabbed my attention, now this character has been replaced by a gray nps, and my attention has gone away. (it's like watching a series in which the main actors are changed in the middle of the season)
Complain makes no sense, but expressing my opinion is my right.
 
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Exactly. I started playing because I saw a character that grabbed my attention, now this character has been replaced by a gray nps, and my attention has gone away. (it's like watching a series in which the main actors are changed in the middle of the season)
Complain makes no sense, but expressing my opinion is my right.
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"The author replaced Mama model from Death Stranding. So disappointed"

You are answering yourself it is a copyrighted model sooner or later it would be changed since its initial goal made it clear and it was Steam so it was only a matter of time.

and I am 90% sure that both you and the other did not support the developer at all and if I am wrong, go ahead and show it.

Also, if you want the old Joyce back so much, support the creator on patreon, subscribestar and Steam so he can pay for the license (who knows how expensive it will be) otherwise don't make a storm out of a glass of water.

A lot of shouting fire but little running to get water to put it out.
 
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kakashiuchiha said:
"The author replaced Mama model from Death Stranding. So disappointed"

You are answering yourself it is a copyrighted model sooner or later it would be changed since its initial goal made it clear and it was Steam so it was only a matter of time.

and I am 90% sure that both you and the other did not support the developer at all and if I am wrong, go ahead and show it.

Also, if you want the old Joyce back so much, support the creator on patreon, subscribestar and Steam so he can pay for the license (who knows how expensive it will be) otherwise don't make a storm out of a glass of water.

A lot of shouting fire but little running to get water to put it out.
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A lot of self righteous preaching on a forum for pirated porn games.
 
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exazubi said:
First of all, only models have been exchanged. Which doesn't change anything about the game's story itself. That means the game itself stays the same. I understand that you have your favourites. But seriously, the new models look way more realistic and hotter than the ones before. Ok, that's a matter of taste of course.

Second. I am a private book author. And when you're writing a book, it's also normal to change and improve existing text so that it reads better and has more atmosphere. Just as it is normal with games that optical improvements are made. In every book and game there are rough drafts of scenes that are rewritten and changed umpteen times before the final version is published. The only difference here is that you get to see the raw versions.

Third. A game is the work, the imagination, of the developer. You as a consumer are a guest. You can be enthusiastic about a product or not. But you can't expect it to be perfectly tailored to your taste. You are just one of many. a developer cannot please everyone. Mainly the work has to please the developer himself. iI that doesn't do it, you can assume that the full version will never come. Development consumes a lot of lifetime. And no one invests it in something they don't like themselves.

I would recommend you to get off your high horse, show some respect to the developer, give him/her a fair chance, and try to get excited about the game that you liked before despite the change.
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I agree with you but for me the point where i stopped my support where when the boys where aged up and the Dev didn't made it because he wanted,he made it to not get "maybe" problems with steam.The Joyce model is not importent for me i'm only interested in the now a bit too old for me boys,(i really hope the black pics will be replaced in the next update)more dialogue in the scenes would be good too.The update was good but i fear there will be maybe more changes in the future to be "safe" with his launch on steam.
 
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So i got to the end of the current update, but didn't get the images or path in images 1 and 2???? What do I have to do to get this? Do I need to accept the Mathias massage? If anyone could point me in the right direction..... Much appreciated.
 
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MILFhunter229 said:
So i got to the end of the current update, but didn't get the images or path in images 1 and 2???? What do I have to do to get this? Do I need to accept the Mathias massage? If anyone could point me in the right direction..... Much appreciated.
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1.- First he has to let Alfred go to Joyce's house.
2.- Matias discovers them and begins his revenge.
3.- Accept Matias message (the lotion has a powerful drug)( (it's key to get other scenes)
4.- and ready you will get this scene.
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kakashiuchiha said:
1.- First he has to let Alfred go to Joyce's house.
2.- Matias discovers them and begins his revenge.
3.- Accept Matias message (the lotion has a powerful drug)( (it's key to get other scenes)
4.- and ready you will get this scene.
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Ahh. Thank you for the reply!! I didn't accept the massage because of the way it played out, BJ in full view by the pool? Seemed very excessive, if they went inside the house it would've played out much better, plus hated that Derek had a blackmail video... anyway. I really like this scene though!
 
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I watched the intro, and was captivated; the fate and life video was impressive in most ways. But then I see Maive's figure... the big, BIG ass pasted onto a tiny waste, with perky watermelons as breasts. Whereas the fate and life intro impressed by its originality and quality, the below-average renders of Maeve's unrealistic body was just too much for my tiny brain to adjust to. I'll try to soldier through but that intro made me expect so much more.
 
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The Paranormal in the story, is it Vampires, Demons/Succubus,Witches,Werewolves or is it only a secret Cult?
 
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