HTML Female Agent [v1.20.1p] [Crushstation]

[boobthief]

I always approach this game as something that you check in on every 6 months at minimum and play every 18-24 months....

To the point it seems to me avatar enhancements have caused the delay. Adding the previous lifepath with a fast forward button would be 6 months in Crush timing. But CS has the perfectionism issue and keeps getting ideas, which include going back to ideas that caused problems previously. Problem wiith things like avatar is they look great, but artwork takes time and it means the coding for each passage gets longer. I suspect that CS moves onto something else because he gets bored with what he is currently doing or can't keep the motivation for sustained scene writing (i.e. goes back to design work)

It's not avatar changes, it's a desire to gamify the sex scenes, moreover to make a great game, but also to not have to write the story / game.

I said it before, literally years ago in this thread, but this is actually good news because we have reached the "all the work while crying" stage of the creative process. That should be every week but it's not.



I don't think the developer is scamming you. I do think they are creating one of the best adult games. But they never fucking learned the lesson.

I think it is super mentally unhealthy to dump all the work just before the deadline stage, when they could incrementally build and make weekly progress.

However, the worst thing to do is to go dark and not communicate what the fuck is going on. Which is now.

So: I don't hate them, think they genuinely struggle, want an update, hope they can figure out their delivery in 2025.

 

[ffive]

After all, you can defend the progress of a thing that has made no apparent progress for over a year.

You should check the Summertime Saga thread one day, and be amazed.

 

[Senor Smut]

I always approach this game as something that you check in on every 6 months at minimum and play every 18-24 months....

To the point it seems to me avatar enhancements have caused the delay. Adding the previous lifepath with a fast forward button would be 6 months in Crush timing. But CS has the perfectionism issue and keeps getting ideas, which include going back to ideas that caused problems previously. Problem wiith things like avatar is they look great, but artwork takes time and it means the coding for each passage gets longer. I suspect that CS moves onto something else because he gets bored with what he is currently doing or can't keep the motivation for sustained scene writing (i.e. goes back to design work)

Crush's brief for this update included:

• Creating the entire lifepath system
• Customizing the lifepath for each of the five nationalities in the game
• Using the lifepath to generate meanings for all the stats he'd introduced over the years that have thus far meant nothing
• Going back through the ENTIRETY of the current content of the game and essentially rewriting many scenes to provide multiple alternate versions that show what failures and successes in the skill rolls mean, as well as takes into account the various fetishes that that have thus far been little more than window dressing
• Creating an entirely new dynamic sex system that calls on skill checks and provides variant scenes and scene lengths, again based on sex skill checks and fetishes.

That would be at least six months for a competent, honest, diligent indie dev. For Crush...well, he might never finish that work.

And to be clear, what he promised for a Christmas release a few months back was not the full update, but rather a sample scene to show how his new sex system worked and how "hot" it was. He failed to deliver even that small amount. It's entirely possible that Victoria is having issues with the paper doll, but to all appearances they are dwarfed by Crush's inability/unwillingness to do any work.

Even if he does somehow manage to finish the above before the sun turns into a dead, cold cinder, the additional complexity he's created for himself going forward means that his progress [sic] will be slowed even from his normal glacial pace to something that will only be detectable on a geological timescale.

 

[k3069568]

Can't we just report it as a scam on patreon? Or are we reinventing hot water every time?

 

[boobthief]

Can't we just report it as a scam on patreon? Or are we reinventing hot water every time?

Do it or don't. How much money have you lost? Thousands or nothing?

If the answer is "nothing, I lost nothing but I'm still angry" then you paid nothing and got a lot so please go and harness your energy into something, anything creative.

 

[ffive]

Can't we just report it as a scam on patreon? Or are we reinventing hot water every time?

Why would you want to deprive us of the entertainment this thread provides?

 

[boobthief]

Crush's brief for this update included:

• Creating the entire lifepath system
• Customizing the lifepath for each of the five nationalities in the game
• Using the lifepath to generate meanings for all the stats he'd introduced over the years that have thus far meant nothing
• Going back through the ENTIRETY of the current content of the game and essentially rewriting many scenes to provide multiple alternate versions that show what failures and successes in the skill rolls mean, as well as takes into account the various fetishes that that have thus far been little more than window dressing
• Creating an entirely new dynamic sex system that calls on skill checks and provides variant scenes and scene lengths, again based on sex skill checks and fetishes.

That would be at least six months for a competent, honest, diligent indie dev. For Crush...well, he might never finish that work.

And to be clear, what he promised for a Christmas release a few months back was not the full update, but rather a sample scene to show how his new sex system worked and how "hot" it was. He failed to deliver even that small amount. It's entirely possible that Victoria is having issues with the paper doll, but to all appearances they are dwarfed by Crush's inability/unwillingness to do any work.

Even if he does somehow manage to finish the above before the sun turns into a dead, cold cinder, the additional complexity he's created for himself going forward means that his progress [sic] will be slowed even from his normal glacial pace to something that will only be detectable on a geological timescale.

Admit you love their work.

QED.

We both think the developer is suffering problems. We both hope they succeed but you want to pretend you can do better. And you coulda woulda shoulda but... your reasons you can't make a better game... just sound even less convincing two years later.

Put up or shut up time: make your better game.

 

[Vibesy]

Can't we just report it as a scam on patreon? Or are we reinventing hot water every time?

Patreon is more than happy to take a cut from scams like FA. What's sad, though, is that F95 contributes by driving substantial traffic to FA's donor pages.

At the very least, the Female Agent thread should have a permanent ON HOLD tag or some other warning for noobs who might be tempted to donate.

 

[Senor Smut]

Patreon is more than happy to take a cut from scams like FA. What's sad, though, is that F95 contributes by driving substantial traffic to FA's donor pages.

At the very least, the Female Agent thread should have a permanent ON HOLD tag or some other warning for noobs who might be tempted to donate.

I am unclear about why a game that has had no updates for as long as this one does not have the ABANDONED tag.

 

[Dracis3D]

Crush's brief for this update included...... (see full message)

Ah ok, that is 2 years work at Crush speed. I rarely read all the updates anymore. A 'newlife' style sex scene has always been his goal but setting up more linear scenes is more his skillset.

I said it before, literally years ago in this thread, but this is actually good news because we have reached the "all the work while crying" stage of the creative process.

I was quite heavily involved in the first version of the game, with the first life path with the Five Eyes nations and the seemingly never ending 'Lioness' missions. At the time planning for Bangkok was well underway and a new sex system was being tested when 'Make Female Agent Great Again' came out -

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Crush has been through your cycle before, I wouldn't say this is great news, just news. I personally don't think Crush will fix the delivery issues, but my view is I'll just read/enjoy what is produced.

 

[ffive]

I am unclear about why a game that has had no updates for as long as this one does not have the ABANDONED tag.

It's per forum rules:

Abandoned: used in the following cases:

• The developer states that the development has been permanently suspended.
• After 3 months of inactivity from the developer's public creator/crowdfunding accounts (Patreon, SS, etc), we will resolve special circumstances or scenarios on a case-by-case basis (no creator accounts, creators developing for free, Patreon accounts under review/ban).
• No game update has been released for an abnormally long period of time (>18 months).
• Game threads that are marked On-hold for over 6 months with no game update.

18 months with no updates or 3 months of radio silence is a rule of thumb. This one isn't there. (yet)

 

[boobthief]

Crush has been through your cycle before, I wouldn't say this is great news, just news. I personally don't think Crush will fix the delivery issues, but my view is I'll just read/enjoy what is produced.

I feel bad for the developer, genuinely, I do. They created a really successful game. So successful, that months after their last half release, we are still here discussing their game.

People care so much that they support financially for months without demonstrable progress.

People care too much that they try to punish the developer here, which is really impotent.

This is the same old release cycle: months of hype (longer each cycle), then silence, mental anguish and a tortured release.

But their updates have always been good enough to keep you, everyone else (especially the haters), coming back to post for months after.

Maybe it's "the one that got away" myth. Just can't let it go.

 

[voerman]

I'm just here for the pop corn.
Didn't read the last update (play would mean there was gameplay).
I'd be interested in reading a final version, but I doubt it will happen.