Recommending Femdom Finder 2.0

[Nikociant]

Did my part comrade - voted for boot worship, but it seems everything else is falling behind, unlike the winning option, which is falling from one's behind... Cringy scat jokes aside, I also like Nikociant's spit and piss scenes (loved Leah's in Dominant witches, but they could get a bit repetitive), and would want more lezdom in it too, but I'm not into futa so I did not pick that option. Truth be told I don't mind scat that much either, so I'm not gonna complain about shitty results or anything, but I think I remember Nikociant saying in the past that he doesn't like scat either, so you might be in luck and the dev may ignore that option even if it wins!

I don't, but I'm not gonna ignore poll results. So it looks like I'll have to add it after all.

 

[LAKueiJin]

So lately I've been trying out spicychat.ai and yodayo. Has anyone else had any luck on those or any others for ai chatbot femdom? It's not perfect or anything, but it can be fun in a vacuum. Eventually the bots seem to break and don't remember stuff from earlier, but they seem to work for awhile.

I've mentioned this here before awhile back so sorry if redundant, but Hi Waifu! is in my opinion better than any I've tried by alot for keeping femdom aspects that make sense and not having to continuously edit the bots responses to keep it on track. It doesn't do pictures and it only works on the phone, but if you value immersion in the conversation most then it seems to have a way better model than any uncensored AIs I've tried on the web.

About 2 weeks ago I started tributing on onlyfans to a findomme who sounds more intelligent and well-versed in BDSM roleplays than most engaged in her trade, and she also does chat roleplays with "devotees" and 'neophytes" to her church (the main title she goes by is "Goddess", and she keeps in-character with her posts and online personna, as well as obvs in the roleplays, all of which I quite like), and honestly it's a more fun experience than doing it with immersion-breaking chatbots, her monthly onlyfans subscription is not much more expensive than a paid chatbot service AND I'm getting feet pics and vids on Onlyfans on the side.

Plus that this way I'm giving money to an actual human being I like and respect, not to some corporation, so the way I see it it's a W. I wouldn't recommend to anyone though to just trbute money to any domme they're attracted to for femdom roleplays - I looked up her online history/presence on various social media first, had a first convo with her on reddit actually where we talked about each other's limits/fetishes etc before I paid for anything (she brought this up and was very professional about it) and I'm satisfied with how it turned out thus far, but obvs most online findommes just want money, do not care about being charming dommes or maintaining character and do not really give anything back for the "tribute", so if anyone wants to do the same thing instead of sticking with chatbots, you can of course, but be careful and try to find a domme that seems responsible and into what she's doing whose content/style you like, not an amateur who might just want to scam you out of your money!

I tried chatbots a little too, and obviously they have their advantages over dommes who do online roleplays, such as the fact that they're be available all the time, (not like a real person with multiple subs, for whose answers you might have to wait a day or two at times) but I always found the experience somewhat underwhelming.

 

[st4rl1ght]

Femdom Uni 1.2 released on patreon

 

[mytest111]

Plus that this way I'm giving money to an actual human being I like and respect

You are a customer, you pay her money for a service. I assure you she doesn't give a shit about you, she's not your friend. And besides, the service is catering to your fetishes.
Its the same thing as if you pick up a street hooker and she gives you the full GFE. She's still a street hooker and cares only about the money.

 

[saddlface]

Plus that this way I'm giving money to an actual human being I like and respect, not to some corporation, so the way I see it it's a W.

You are a customer, you pay her money for a service. I assure you she doesn't give a shit about you, she's not your friend. And besides, the service is catering to your fetishes.

I mean both things can be true.

 

[LAKueiJin]

You are a customer, you pay her money for a service. I assure you she doesn't give a shit about you, she's not your friend. And besides, the service is catering to your fetishes.
Its the same thing as if you pick up a street hooker and she gives you the full GFE. She's still a street hooker and cares only about the money.

Yes and no. This same thing could be said about going to a domme IRL, except that costs far more and lasts only one or two hours, but, in essence, any person doing online femdom roleplays OR actual sessions IRL is a "service domme", eg all her subs are her customers and essentially they can set any limits they want and pull out any time they want, because they're the ones paying.

There were conversations about service dommes on the old finder, and I get that some people hate how "fake" that experience is and how you as the sub are only pretending to be powerless, and that's why they said they prefer games and/or erotica stories to trying out their kinks IRL. I even tended to somewhat agree with them 3-4 years ago, (most games and stories are free too...) but when you're talking AI femdom chatbots this becomes a whole other conversation.

Sure, if you only ever use the free versions it's not the case, but if you actually pay for their extended features, isn't it the same like paying a human for that? Aren't you still a customer paying for a sex-work adjacent service? You are, and you're essentially paying a company so that an algorithm in all probability designed by some bearded dudes wearing glasses, which has no actual consciousness or personality, "talks" down to you and "caters" to your fetishes...

See, I can also make the chatbots scenario look quite sad by pointing out the material reality of the situation and using unglamorising language, but both of these (chatbots or service dommes) are valid ways to have fun and get your kink fix as long as you know what you are doing. (I just consider doing it with an actual woman more rewarding, realistic and higher quality, but tbf I never tried the paid chatbots - who knows how good they got these days? )

Finally, when did I say in the post you quoted that she's my "friend"? I didn't - I said I like and respect her, (which is different from being one's friend) not the other way around, although in a relationship with an actual human you can of course stand out and even if you are not "friends" make the domme like interactions with you more than with other customers/subs. And you can still have a connection with her - we have somewhat similar tastes in music, she asked me multiple personal questions she didn't have to even outside the roleplays etc It's more like meeting someone compatible on fetlife and getting to know them a bit than just paying a sex worker for a one off... (as this is long term)

 

[mytest111]

Yes and no. This same thing could be said about going to a domme IRL, except that costs far more and lasts only one or two hours, but, in essence, any person doing online femdom roleplays OR actual sessions IRL is a "service domme", eg all her subs are her customers and essentially they can set any limits they want and pull out any time they want, because they're the ones paying.

There were conversations about service dommes on the old finder, and I get that some people hate how "fake" that experience is and how you as the sub are only pretending to be powerless, and that's why they said they prefer games and/or erotica stories to trying out their kinks IRL. I even tended to somewhat agree with them 3-4 years ago, (most games and stories are free too...) but when you're talking AI femdom chatbots this becomes a whole other conversation.

Sure, if you only ever use the free versions it's not the case, but if you actually pay for their extended features, isn't it the same like paying a human for that? Aren't you still a customer paying for a sex-work adjacent service? You are, and you're essentially paying a company so that an algorithm in all probability designed by some bearded dudes wearing glasses, which has no actual consciousness or personality, "talks" down to you and "caters" to your fetishes...

See, I can also make the chatbots scenario look quite sad by pointing out the material reality of the situation and using unglamorising language, but both of these (chatbots or service dommes) are valid ways to have fun and get your kink fix as long as you know what you are doing. (I just consider doing it with an actual woman more rewarding, realistic and higher quality, but tbf I never tried the paid chatbots - who knows how good they got these days? )

Finally, when did I say in the post you quoted that she's my "friend"? I didn't - I said I like and respect her, (which is different from being one's friend) not the other way around, although in a relationship with an actual human you can of course stand out and even if you are not "friends" make the domme like interactions with you more than with other customers/subs. And you can still have a connection with her - we have somewhat similar tastes in music, she asked me multiple personal questions she didn't have to even outside the roleplays etc It's more like meeting someone compatible on fetlife and getting to know them a bit than just paying a sex worker for a one off... (as this is long term)

Its exactly the same thing as going to a pro Domme IRL, and exactly the same thing as hiring an escort. You pay to get your fix and for her its just a job.
Chatbots on the other hand are the same thing as have a subscription to porn or buying an erotic game. There is no human on the other side, you don't pay anyone for a service. You buy a product.

And if you want a "real" experience, go to a fetish club and find a dominant woman who'll actually be interested in you and also save money in the process. And even if you want it "fake" you still can do it with her, that's what sessions are for.

 

[LAKueiJin]

Its exactly the same thing as going to a pro Domme IRL, and exactly the same thing as hiring an escort. You pay to get your fix and for her its just a job.
Chatbots on the other hand are the same thing as have a subscription to porn or buying an erotic game. There is no human on the other side, you don't pay anyone for a service. You buy a product.

No, it's not the same thing as going to a domme IRL, as it's a long term relationship, not a two hour session. I already said it's the same thing in other regards, but you can't just cherry pick parts of my response and pretend you're right - that's not how good faith disagreements work, buddy...

And yes, chatbots are a product designed to serve exactly the same kind of fetish as a domme who does roleplays over the internet, so, depending on how you look at it, you're paying to be dommed by a company.

My post was only meant to advise people that they can also try this with a real woman, not just with chatbots, but also to be careful if they do so and vet the person beforehand.

Games are media products, like porn vids or erotica novels - they're not in any way the same as talking to a domme or to a chatbot pretending to be a domme, except for the extremely shallow similarity that all of these things can be conceived of as products/services by a hyper-financialized mind that lacks any creativity or imagination... Sorry, but that's how you come across here.

And if you want a "real" experience, go to a fetish club and find a dominant woman who'll actually be interested in you and also save money in the process. And even if you want it "fake" you still can do it with her, that's what sessions are for.

I have. Let's not pretend the dominant women to submissives men ratio is generously a 1:10 and more realistically around 1:20, and that's not factoring in that some of them will be pro dommes, others will be in a relationship and only curious to try things out as a couple etc

Yeah, sure, getting an actual dominant girlfriend is better and more meaningful than paying a findomme for roleplays and content or a domme for a session, I never pretended otherwise, but, in the same vein, to me paying a dominant woman you have a connection with is also more meaningful than just chatting with an AI that doesn't understand anything you say and gives you procedurally generated lines...

You're free to disagree ofc, as how one feels about something is entirely subjective, but my OP wasn't meant for you if you do - it was meant to be a helpful post for any fellow members of this community who might be dissatisfied with immersion-breaking chatbots and crave more than the simulation of a human connection.

You're clearly not the target audience, and that's fine - you don't have to project that I think an online domme is my friend, to vitriolically hate on findommes, talk pedantically when you cherry pick or misread my post or do any of the above. We can just both carry on with our day, which is what I'm going to do now.

 

[st4rl1ght]

No, it's not the same thing as going to a domme IRL, as it's a long term relationship, not a two hour session. I already said it's the same thing in other regards, but you can't just cherry pick parts of my response and pretend you're right - that's not how good faith disagreements work, buddy...

And yes, chatbots are a product designed to serve exactly the same kind of fetish as a domme who does roleplays over the internet, so, depending on how you look at it, you're paying to be dommed by a company.

...

I rarely weigh in on the kinds of dumb arguments submissive guys get into. That ratio you are invoking is bullshit and has been widely discredited in the F/m community. Most people who are club members or somewhat serious despise the recent waves of fake findom dommes who usually don't know anything about femdom. Additionally, it's really hard to find submissive guys who aren't just power bottoms (I am orderin- I mean begging you to dominate me in this specific way and if you don't I'll throw a fit!!!)

It's a bit funny, they pretend to be dominant and the guy pretends to be submissive. Certainly makes it hard for sincere people to find compatibility

 

[LAKueiJin]

I rarely weigh in on the kinds of dumb arguments submissive guys get into. That ratio you are invoking is bullshit and has been widely discredited in the F/m community. Most people who are club members or somewhat serious despise the recent waves of fake findom dommes who usually don't know anything about femdom. Additionally, it's really hard to find submissive guys who aren't just power bottoms (I am orderin- I mean begging you to dominate me in this specific way and if you don't I'll throw a fit!!!)

It's a bit funny, they pretend to be dominant and the guy pretends to be submissive. Certainly makes it hard for sincere people to find compatibility

There's lots of findommes who are bottom feeders, know nothing about BDSM and can't even spell properly in their posts - any discerning sub can easily see through that and never give them a dime or bother to even engage with them. Not all of them are like that though, which is why I said you should vet anyone beforehand if you're gonna give them any money. (sound advice even for dealing with new businesses)

And no, I'm not a club member because I don't have the time for all that, but I went to some femdom munches, looked for people on websites like fetlife etc Plenty of the people here won't even have a BDSM club in the towns or cities they live in, so it's quite elitist of you to assume anyone "serious" will be a club member...

As for power bottoms, I agree there's many of them around (and I included them in my rate estimation, because those people will also look for dominant women) and both them and the findommes that pretend to be dominant as a grift are making things harder for sincere people to find each other, so we probably disagree a lot less than you think.

Anyway, this whole argument is off topic, as are discussion of chatbots imo, as neither of these things are video games or have anything to do with games...

EDIT: Btw I will say one last thing. I usually avoid the term "power bottoms", as all submissives are to a certain extent that, (we all have hard limits, even if fewer than most) and that's a good thing. A sub with no limits would be a boring personality-less rag for a domme, and also a danger to himself. So when I referred to "power bottoms" negatively above I meant guys who are into a couple fendom kinks but don't actually respect women, think about their rights, needs or aspirations, and just see women as tools or a product to sartisfy their "submissive" fantasies, but in general I dislike using this term because, if you really think about it, it applies to all of us. (to a lesser extent than to those guys ofc, buy it still does)

 

[st4rl1ght]

Anyway, this whole argument is off topic, as are discussion of chatbots imo, as neither of these things are video games or have anything to do with games...

It's a femdom thread submissive guys are known for derailing any discussion group with long pedantic arguments about tangential topics

 

[S3ri4l]

There's lots of findommes who are bottom feeders, know nothing about BDSM and can't even spell properly in their posts - any discerning sub can easily see through that and never give them a dime or bother to even engage with them. Not all of them are like that though, which is why I said you should vet anyone beforehand if you're gonna give them any money. (sound advice even for dealing with new businesses)

And no, I'm not a club member because I don't have the time for all that, but I went to some femdom munches, looked for people on websites like fetlife etc Plenty of the people here won't even have a BDSM club in the towns or cities they live in, so it's quite elitist of you to assume anyone "serious" will be a club member...

As for power bottoms, I agree there's many of them around (and I included them in my rate estimation, because those people will also look for dominant women) and both them and the findommes that pretend to be dominant as a grift are making things harder for sincere people to find each other, so we probably disagree a lot less than you think.

Anyway, this whole argument is off topic, as are discussion of chatbots imo, as neither of these things are video games or have anything to do with games...

EDIT: Btw I will say one last thing. I usually avoid the term "power bottoms", as all submissives are to a certain extent that, (we all have hard limits, even if fewer than most) and that's a good thing. A sub with no limits would be a boring personality-less rag for a domme, and also a danger to himself. So when I referred to "power bottoms" negatively above I meant guys who are into a couple fendom kinks but don't actually respect women, think about their rights, needs or aspirations, and just see women as tools or a product to sartisfy their "submissive" fantasies, but in general I dislike using this term because, if you really think about it, it applies to all of us. (to a lesser extent than to those guys ofc, buy it still does)

You should like write a book or a story about these topics. You have much energy into this, lol. In a good way tho.

 

[Jaike]

I can't believe I'm the one to announce this (logging in twice a year), but Shattered received an update yesterday.
https://f95zone.to/threads/shattered-v0-21-yeda-games.42858/

Aseratrix is indeed gone? Sadge, now I understand it, a person whom I only knew online went away as well, so that's familiar.

...Tales of Androgyny has gotten an update! Never played it, but probably should lmao.
https://f95zone.to/threads/tales-of-androgyny-v0-3-42-3-majalis.1643/

Darktoz has posted a cool logo.


Has Lunar's Chosen been discussed?

We never heard of Aseratrix again, so... he is probably gone.

Tales of Androgyny is really poor on femdom content - it's more about futadom, and Femdom Finder is really not into that. But people on this thread loves it! That said, Tales of Androgyny typically has a major update once per month, so I guess most people there may be aware of it.

As for Lunar's Chosen, it was mentioned sometimes in this thread (here), but I didn't find a discussion about the game so far. But the description made by DatGuy88 signals that it may not be considered as eligible for this thread list (as female on top doesn't necessarily means femdom).

Personally I'm fine with any female on top (of men). Not interested in female subs or futa doms at all, which gets mixed up in "femdom" all the time. I would go so far as to say I much rather see maledom than female on female or futa anything.

About Lunar's Chosen, yes it has femdom, no doubt about it. Not near KG levels, but pretty intense. Example, in one scene a female LI puts a chastity cage and and leash on a dickgirl LI, makes her crawl around and ruins her arse with a dildo, and optional orgasm denial at the end. That female LI builds a fetish club some way into the game. It's the setting for a lot of maledom, femdom and dickgirl dom scenes. She has femdom scenes with the MC too. I can get proof of a mild scene if you need that.

But it's part of a poly circle where the male MC dates many women and imo the general feeling is more switchy or maledom than femdom. I don't think most here like it. And though the bdsm content is significant, it feels like it's less important than dickgirls and transformation.

 

[megahellreaper]

https://f95zone.to/threads/chastity-games-a-definitive-list-28-locktober-2023.81451/post-11301189
https://f95zone.to/threads/femdom-finder-2-0.132137/post-11316486

The links should still be good.



Yes, the second link up there is Socks version 0.5, the last one. The hemdomblog was 0.4.

Digging up the past here, but can somebody upload these again? The developers/artists links are down.
Edit: As a bonus for anybody interested, the up to date version of this developer's latest game should be uploaded sometime this month.

 

[SevySub]

Weird, I'm pretty sure I saw J1215 post about Blossom of Pleasure receiving an update yesterday and the post has faded. And actually, I think I saw something like that happening before. Is there anything wrong?

 

[Ianuda]

In the spirit of the older thread (where the "finder" meant any femdom in media, not merely the pornographic games) - here's a stepping-on animation for the latest Lesley skin in Mobile Legends (11:20).

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[J1215]

Weird, I'm pretty sure I saw J1215 post about Blossom of Pleasure receiving an update yesterday and the post has faded. And actually, I think I saw something like that happening before. Is there anything wrong?

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An update of the game "Blossom of Pleasure" has been released:

https://f95zone.to/threads/blossom-of-pleasure-v0-38-bildur.77411/

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[WattsFU]

J1215 - NONE of your posts are meaningless. You alone are keeping this thread's original purpose alive and you're amazing for that. It's just you don't get the praise you deserve most of the time, lol.

 

[WattsFU]

Sorry for the double Post but literally an update for Femdom University Zero [v1.2] [Salia Coel] just dropped: https://f95zone.to/threads/femdom-university-zero-v1-2-salia-coel.124902/

Woot!

 

[Huurn]

Sorry for the double Post but literally an update for Femdom University Zero [v1.2] [Salia Coel] just dropped: https://f95zone.to/threads/femdom-university-zero-v1-2-salia-coel.124902/

Woot!

I enjoyed that game in the past, but I am kinda hesitant now seeing that people say the difficulty has increased. It took me a good while to figure out how to survive in there as it was.