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[Rennie245]

Why does the sub need to resist or seek independence? For example, if my wife started taking the dominant role in our relationship, but continued to treat me in the same loving way she does now, and still respected me and my needs, and still sought my consent/agreement, why would I need to resist or seek independence?

I think that as more to do whit the portrayal of femdom in games then anything else, in most games femdom is one-sided abuse instead of being how the woman show's her affection so the idea of trying to resist abuse is either seen as "Normal" or it gives the felling of being less emasculating if you are forced into it then if you sumbit.

One the other side there's quite a few doujin's that have some surprizingly sweet femdom themed love stories even when the fetishes in them are pretty hardcore.

 

[Holefiller]

Why does the sub need to resist or seek independence? For example, if my wife started taking the dominant role in our relationship, but continued to treat me in the same loving way she does now, and still respected me and my needs, and still sought my consent/agreement, why would I need to resist or seek independence?

I was talking about from a storytelling/fetish POV, although I guess it partially applies to real life. In a story, conflict is necessary, otherwise it gets boring. This is true even in porn if its longer than a few pages. As far as real life is concerned, there's eventually going to be disagreement, which will lead to the sub rejecting the domme's wishes. Not a big deal, disagreement is healthy, but it kinda clashes with the femdom thing.

What happens when your needs and hers conflict in an actionable way? Maybe she wants to move to take advantage of a work opportunity, or maybe you do. What happens?

In a healthy relationship, either compromise is found or the disagreement is hashed out and one side concedes without getting assmad. Most of the time, it will be necessary for one or both of the partners to assert some level of independence to avoid being railroaded. Ideally, you find a solution where everyone wins. But relationships based on unconditional dominance aren't healthy. In an absolute femdom relationship, the wife is always right, even when she's wrong. If the gentle domme forms a compromise, or even concedes then that's healthy and gentle but its not femdom.

I guess you could write a gentle femdom story where the characters hash out their disagreement and settle it healthily, but that would be boring and nobody would like it. It would basically be anti-porn, where you set up a porn story and then do something normal instead.

 

[dal7moc]

...If the gentle domme forms a compromise, or even concedes then that's healthy and gentle but its not femdom....

That's the part, where I disagree. Dominance need not to be absolute. The dominant part doesn't lose it's state when it yields sometimes. There is then room for playfullness and mischief which isn't possible in absolute dominance scenarios but adds alot of spice to a relationship - at least for me. And to be honest sexual dominance should never be against the wishes of the sub. It's a character trait of the sub that it likes being 'dominated'. Even in a hard setting the dominated part should get sexual gratification out of it. Otherwise it's plain rape. So there is no need for independence in my book but understanding on both parts.

 

[NeoKilua]

That's the part, where I disagree. Dominance need not to be absolute. The dominant part doesn't lose it's state when it yields sometimes. There is then room for playfullness and mischief which isn't possible in absolute dominance scenarios but adds alot of spice to a relationship - at least for me. And to be honest sexual dominance should never be against the wishes of the sub. It's a character trait of the sub that it likes being 'dominated'. Even in a hard setting the dominated part should get sexual gratification out of it. Otherwise it's plain rape. So there is no need for independence in my book but understanding on both parts.

Are you saying yield as in surrender to the sub and does eveything the sub says cause that leading more in turning the tables which leads to maledom if that what you mean?

 

[•••]

What is this discussion again... Femdom just means that the woman is dominant, so she's in the lead. It doesn't mean she has to be a bitch or give no choice to their sub. It should be discussed by both parties what they're okay with and what kind of relationship they want to have.

Having a femdom relationship also doesn't mean you can't have a regular relationship outside of it, and talk about things like regular people. One person isn't superior to the other, they're just dominant within the bounds of this relationship. You should still be able to talk about it normally.

PS: I personally find it very hot to be reduced to an object and that's the type of femdom relationships I prefer, and the type of porn I prefer, hardcore femdom. These are kinks it's not reality! In any of these hardcore dynamics I was still able to express myself. If you have anyone think they're actually superior to you even outside of your femdom relationship, they're toxic and shouldn't be a dom(me).

 

[NeoKilua]

If u make a femdom game and you want to succeed just go for harcore femdom games you succeed more and have way more scenes and plot.

Gentle Femdom is so limited and rarely succeed, most fail can't do to much plotwise eithier once u done those vanilla scenes u just repeat which gets boring.

Harcore femdom has eveything gentle femdom scenes have and more that why it succeds more.

Now as resistance go it can be good in the sense ,the dom will angry horny or will find it interesting so she can break u down and have u give into her so it can help.

But again why would we resist we want to be dommed.

Irl u need consent aka limits to what a sub wants same with the dom respect eatch other limits this should be use in gentle only games only.

Hardcore femdom supremacy.

 

[J1215]

An update of the game "The Minimum Project" has been released:

https://f95zone.to/threads/the-minimum-project-v0-7-2-intervention.164061/

 

[Ayowag1]

I like gentle femdom, but it's sort of limited in terms of what stories you can tell with it. The best parts of a femdom story come when the sub resists or seeks independence. If the gentle domme persists and disciplines/gaslights her sub, its not gentle femdom anymore. If the gentle domme gives in and spoils the sub, its not real femdom anymore. As a result, most gentle femdom stories are (often literally) one note memes that involve the sub completely submitting from jump and never taking issue with anything.

I think there's a way you can do it right- you could have an arc where the sub takes issue with the gentle domme, leaves, realizes his need for her outside of the relationship, and finally comes crawling back. The domme gets to have a smug "I told you so" moment without breaking her gentle demeanor. I've seen stories that have similar arcs, although they're usually not gentle.

fully agree. İ like gentle femdom more too. it doesn't always have to be super gentle but at least build up to it. İ love games where the mc at first is very prideful and resists the idea but then starts slowly becoming okay with it. the best example is ANLIS i think that's why it is still my favorite

 

[J1215]

An update of the game "Dream Sessions" has been released:

https://f95zone.to/threads/dream-sessions-v0-1-11-1-femdoworld.205794/

 

[dal7moc]

Are you saying yield as in surrender to the sub and does eveything the sub says cause that leading more in turning the tables which leads to maledom if that what you mean?

No. I mean yield as in take a step back when you notice you're crossing borders as dom. I see it as a game where both sides test their limits. Unless you play vanilla you will cross lines the other one will not cross (yet). I think my english isn't good enough to get my point across. All I'm saying is that even in harder dom sessions both parties have to agree to it. After all 'code' words are there for a reason. And no that is no role reversal. The proper dom/sub dynamic is still intact.
Edit: I realize that alot of games here violate that - namely Mirons Games or KG. And while I can enjoy these games I'm absolutely sure that I would not accept such a behaviour in real life.

 

[baxtus]

Are you saying yield as in surrender to the sub and does eveything the sub says cause that leading more in turning the tables which leads to maledom if that what you mean?

No, it means sometimes accepting that you can't just railroad the more submissive partner, and have to be open to their point of view and needs, etc., and that at times, they may actually know better/be more informed/be more experienced, and that it can be wise to seek their counsel.

 

[•••]

No, it means sometimes accepting that you can't just railroad the more submissive partner, and have to be open to their point of view and needs, etc., and that at times, they may actually know better/be more informed/be more experienced, and that it can be wise to seek their counsel.

Exactly, it seems a lot of people don't want to acknowledge these relationships are bidirectional. The sub may indeed know better sometimes, it's their body and mind after all. Of course it's important for the domme to still feel in control and not managed by their sub, but if they feel so insecure they cannot listen to feedback before or after sessions then they're in it for the wrong reasons.

There is literally a word for this, "aftercare", and both parties need it to be able to express themselves. A domme is not omnipotent, and they should also be able to express their preferences without them being commands, sometimes they also feel down after sessions and need to feel loved. Side note: the sub is still in their care, and if they're a good domme they'll make sure their sub is fine first before looking after themselves.

This is why I always say that the best dommes are switches.

Edit: I realize that alot of games here violate that - namely Mirons Games or KG. And while I can enjoy these games I'm absolutely sure that I would not accept such a behaviour in real life.

Exactly, this is a fantasy scenario, it's not real. And making the distinction is very important. Even if you're into hardcore femdom, there should be limits neither wants to cross. I also prefer the games to be so over the top it's completely unrealistic, like Karlsson's Gambit, I love that one, but in actual life that'd be the most disturbing stuff ever.

 

[J1215]

An update of the game "Hero, Don't Just Focus on Clearing the Tower" has been released:

https://f95zone.to/threads/hero-dont-just-focus-on-clearing-the-tower-final-footman.220966/

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[NeoKilua]

I never been fond of switches i wany my dom to stay dom and that it so they feel like a proper dom instead of becoming a sub
I stay a sub wouldnt switch to be a dom

But switches can happen

 

[Etheric]

I came across a claim that NTR is becoming increasingly common in Japan. While I'm not sure how credible this is, it's interesting that NTR JAVs and eroges have gained popularity. On the flip side, it seems like femdom content is losing space. In the 2000s and 2010s, there were plenty of femdom eroges, but since the pandemic, there hasn’t been much that stands out.

 

[honeryx]

I've learned a few other things about these AIs, to the point that I now think the vast majority of femdom games on here pale to just using janitorai.

The two biggest things I learned are to use asterisks around your thoughts *like this* and to use OOC to give the AI commands.

OOC: Char is going to dominate user with X/has dominant desires.

Even something like that is enough to turn practically any character into a dominatrix. You can even write they're a dominatrix or something similar and it flips a switch basically. Also use quotations for your own speech "No I won't" and you can even talk for the character *she forces me down onto my knees, I can't believe how strong she is* etc. and the AI will just roll with it.

So unless you really, really just need pictures, which I think these things can even give you those if you ask, it's hard for most of the fake femdom games on here to compete at this point. Instead of one scene and endless maledom or futa or sissification, which if you like those things you can put those in the AI too, you tailor your experience and can interact with a whole slew of bots. Some of these bot authors make them femdom oriented, quite a few actually, and have scenarios and elaborate stories planned---better than the vast majority of games on here.

I'd still say the gold star femdom games on here are a worthwhile experience, but aside from that? Really no need to compromise anymore. If a dev insists on sticking in futa or NTR or whatever and you don't want it, well, you don't need to deal with it. You never actually had to tbh, but now even moreso that's the case. While I don't think AI is ever going to be able to make great full fledged games, for a quick femdom style chat? It's just going to be better right now.

So yeah whoever hasn't already done so, check out janitorai.com. Make a free account with a fake e-mail, make your persona (you should make them a submissive male of course, and why not a dominant woman too? You can generate a nice avatar from AI in other sites for free too) and enjoy. Maybe we can start making bots on here and linking them as well, would probably work pretty well. You can search by tags, and yes dominant is a tag.

 

[J1215]

An update of the game "Domination Academy" has been released:

https://f95zone.to/threads/domination-academy-v0-1-6e-leonelli.197460/

 

[J1215]

An update of the game "Reincarnated in Submission" has been released:

https://f95zone.to/threads/reincarnated-in-submission-v0-4-5b-aedryssian.167295/

 

[J1215]

An update of the game "Forbidden Island" has been released:

https://f95zone.to/threads/forbidden-island-v0-03-xlion-art.217094/

 

[vc56yu]

An update of the game "Reincarnated in Submission"

aaand it's gone
Strange... Now it's back