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What's next for you? I'm guessing you've finished FFS and this "scenes that didnt happen" is just a side project? You've begun on something new?
Dev outdid themselves, best update and content packed out of all of them. All this content should've been integrated into the main game from the beginning or maybe just being part 2 of the game with lighthearted note so to speak compared to darker plot of the main story. This shit that didn't happen should continue as it can build on existing stories and implement scenes with more characters.
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Hell yeah, give us more of Becky the real cheerleader !!!
(A round of applause for the Dev for his great work).
(A round of applause for the Dev for his great work).
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FYI, FFS is not finished, final chapters of path A still to be done. The last update was just 2 months ago.
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Thats good news! Sometimes I'm very happy to hear that I'm wrong, and this is one of them.
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Geez I would feel bad for Parker putting in all that time for Becky to finally put out, and when she finally does she turns into the village bicycle. Not to mention Carl also getting his hands on Parker's mother and sister and his own mother. Oh well it's ntr stories anyways, just playing for the fuck fest. 
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YES!!! Finally Becky does someone else!!! So been wanting to see that for a long time now can't wait for it to happen in the actual game one day!
BTW anyone know what daz assests are used for her, love to make some fanart of her! So i can put it on my Redhead Girls FanArt Collection Listing
BTW anyone know what daz assests are used for her, love to make some fanart of her! So i can put it on my Redhead Girls FanArt Collection Listing
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As Penfold Mole indicates, I haven't yet closed off the "A" path of FFS, although that will be coming soon.
That being said, STDH did several things for me. First, it obviously pleased some of my supporters. That's always a good thing, but, at the same time, I don't let them drag me around by the nose. (If I did, FF&S would have become another random "boy does his mother and sister" game.) More important to me, however, is that it gave me something to "escape to" when I was either burned out on the main story line, was having "writer's block" on the next chapter or, in fact, realized that there was a scene that could have gone into one of the story lines, but I was well past the place that it "should" have gone. (Hence "Didn't Happen" as opposed to "Couldn't Happen.")
I have enough potential STDH scenes to carry on for a while beyond the point at which FF&S is finished. Past that, I'm honestly not sure what I'm going to do. Some of the ideas that have filtered around my brain in the wee hours include:
- Doing a completely new project in the FF&S world. Like...
- Going back and doing something much closer to the original Literotica story.
- Doing some kind of "hey, the cheerleaders are having a party" game similar to the latter half of A Real Cheerleader, but with multiple paths, etc., etc.
- Doing an unrelated project, but maybe reusing the character models. The Nth reboot of Big Brother? LOL
- Doing a completely unrelated project. I have a half-written "hardboiled detective" (e.g. Mickey Spillane-type) script that might be fun. Of course, no potential for incest in this one, so half the world would probably say "don't bother"
- Stop doing projects of my own and just do the random programming that I'm doing for some other people
- Taking a right-angle turn away from being an author and maybe do a "How To, Tips and Tricks" blog full of all the things I've learned about Ren'py and Daz Studio.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "Mega folder" - the Mega links are to individual files, not to a folder. I've just gone back and verified that they all are working. In addition, the uploaders here have been kind enough to provide other links.
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I'm glad that you enjoyed the episode, but I'm going to object to your
All this content should've been integrated into the main game from the beginning comment. FF&S is my project, not yours, and was intended, from the beginning to be a "dark" story. It was targeted at a specific niche, and has remained there, despite the strident calls to change it into something it's not. In fact, if JohnCBB was still writing for it, it would probably have been darker, not lighter.I've made all this abundantly clear throughout FFS's own thread. The story was never intended as a run-of-the-mill "boy bangs mom" game. Why? Because that wasn't the story I wanted to tell. I've just finished dealing with a whole bunch of comments in FF&S's own thread where people were telling me what the game "should be." I'm not going to go through all that again over here.
If you object to me telling the story that I want to tell, then I will wish you luck in finding a project you like better, and please close the door as you leave.
As to my reasons for doing STDH, I explained them, at least in part, in this post.
Oh, and Pi Quantum - See? Your PM was 100% correct in concept, but it only took about half as long as you projected.
Should as in my opinion, not ''must'', i'm not the one who will go and force other people to do shit they don't want with their project. And i specifically liked this type of content update because it doesn't follow one but multiple characters from the main story with their little adventures, making the ''universe'' alive and fuckfest that i enjoy reading and looking at. That and while main story is interesting i feel it doesn't have enough scenes with each released version while this one was really packed with content worth of a few updates or maybe main one doesn't have enough scenes i would prefer. And it's not just about incest IMO but just overall fuckfest that made this update great.
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about emily, just kinda of meh about goody two shoe becky. i mean main game was supposed to be a cruel story, following author's main story in lit. emily could've been perfect minion, actively participating in information gathering and blackmail of the candidates/victims. you could also look for some non-con stories in lit that could match your need for a story line.
as for mom/son, your subscribers will eventually ask for it. only matter of time. you wouldn't have left patreon if you did not anticipate this for your current/future content. by leaving patreon, you gave yourself the option to use the incest kink without risking censure. don't really understand why patreon is banning incest though. literotica has millions of incest stories in different languages. real world films, porn or not, portray incest; also in many different languages. fanfiction sites portray incest in many different languages. what is patreon doing?
at any rate, it is my mistake. i assumed you accepted scenes requests for stdh, from all your players; including f95 users. sorry to bother you about this.
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You've already made one mistake. FF&S isn't "following author's main story in lit". As the FAQ #2 in the OP there states, it is
"inspired by portions of JohnCBB's story", and JohnCBB hasn't been involved since the 4th chapter.That being said, you're suggesting an angle to Emily's involvement that I hadn't considered - particularly if what she was trying to work toward was getting herself "reinstated" as the Queen Bee, given that when she went to ALC she lost her role as Head Cheerleader.
I'll have to ponder that. Thank you for the suggestion.
Yes, that's something I've done a bit of. Unfortunately, I've yet to run across anything that fits well. (My characters have personalities of their own, and it's hard for me to "force them" into actions that don't fit. And if that makes you think I'm a bit schizo, most authors probably are a bit... LOL)
I wasn't reacting that way because I didn't think they would request it. I was reacting that way because we just had a long sequence of messages over on the main FF&S forum about this precise, and my brain did a "oh, no, here we go again" to your message. (Warranted or not.) It isn't a case of "eventually ask for it." It's a case of "that request has already been made dozens and dozens of times."
With respect, you're making assumptions about why I moved FF&S to SubscribeStar that are not warranted. I'm not going to get into a discussion of that particular choice, but it happened well before STDH was born, and not because I anticipated doing STDH.
Of course - quite true. Without that move, many of the STDH stories would not have been feasible. So, it was a happy outcome, if not "the cause of the move."
That's an easy answer, which has been discussed in a number of places on this site. (Although perhaps more in the developer threads than in game threads.) Patreon wants to avoid being classified as an "adult site" by their credit card processors. If that were to happen, it would completely change their economic model (which depends heavily on $1 monthly pledges) because the credit card processing fees get much, much higher if you're an "adult site," because "adult sites," on average, have a much higher fraud and "no, I didn't authorize that charge" rate. All of which costs the credit card company a lot more money. Thus, Patreon, to preserve their status, has to be seen to comply with what the card processors consider "acceptable content" for a non-adult site. SubscribeStar has accepted being "adult" classified, but it significantly reduces the number of payment methods they can support (no PayPal, for example) and effectively means that the minimum monthly tier you can do anything with is $2 instead of $1.
So, this isn't some huge moral stand - it's simple business economics, both on Patreon's part and also on the companies through which they accept payments.
Please don't get pissy about this. Perhaps you should go back to the OP on FF&S (https://f95zone.to/threads/family-friends-and-strangers-v2024-10-johnandrich.22416/post-1392682) and re-read the FAQ
I have always listened to people who make suggestions - even "non-supporters" here. (Note my first response to you in this very post, for example.)
Not counting my own posts, there are over 3,000 posts on the main FF&S forum, and over 250 here. I've read every single one of them. I've also read and responded to every one of the PM's that I've been sent, some of which have included full-blown scripts for scenes. Some suggestions from F95 have, in fact, made it into STDH, which you would know if you had, in fact, been following along through all of that history. (Not that I'm blaming you for not reading through almost 4,000 posts in two forums. I certainly wouldn't have. It's just that if you had, you'd realize that your statements aren't accurate.)
So, given all that, I feel that I'm fully entitled to express a "sigh" now and then when certain individual members make the exact same request 6-8 times, or someone else who has not read through all the history makes the same request that has been made in dozens and dozens of other posts and been responded to multiple times.
That's all. It's just one of those
things.
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alright. thanks for clarifying everything, specially my incorrect assumptions about you and patreon, and patreon's rush to recreate their corporate image.You've already made one mistake. FF&S isn't "following author's main story in lit". As the FAQ #2 in the OP there states, it is"inspired by portions of JohnCBB's story", and JohnCBB hasn't been involved since the 4th chapter.
That being said, you're suggesting an angle to Emily's involvement that I hadn't considered - particularly if what she was trying to work toward was getting herself "reinstated" as the Queen Bee, given that when she went to ALC she lost her role as Head Cheerleader.
I'll have to ponder that. Thank you for the suggestion.
Yes, that's something I've done a bit of. Unfortunately, I've yet to run across anything that fits well. (My characters have personalities of their own, and it's hard for me to "force them" into actions that don't fit. And if that makes you think I'm a bit schizo, most authors probably are a bit... LOL)
I wasn't reacting that way because I didn't think they would request it. I was reacting that way because we just had a long sequence of messages over on the main FF&S forum about this precise, and my brain did a "oh, no, here we go again" to your message. (Warranted or not.) It isn't a case of "eventually ask for it." It's a case of "that request has already been made dozens and dozens of times."
With respect, you're making assumptions about why I moved FF&S to SubscribeStar that are not warranted. I'm not going to get into a discussion of that particular choice, but it happened well before STDH was born, and not because I anticipated doing STDH.
Of course - quite true. Without that move, many of the STDH stories would not have been feasible. So, it was a happy outcome, if not "the cause of the move."
That's an easy answer, which has been discussed in a number of places on this site. (Although perhaps more in the developer threads than in game threads.) Patreon wants to avoid being classified as an "adult site" by their credit card processors. If that were to happen, it would completely change their economic model (which depends heavily on $1 monthly pledges) because the credit card processing fees get much, much higher if you're an "adult site," because "adult sites," on average, have a much higher fraud and "no, I didn't authorize that charge" rate. All of which costs the credit card company a lot more money. Thus, Patreon, to preserve their status, has to be seen to comply with what the card processors consider "acceptable content" for a non-adult site. SubscribeStar has accepted being "adult" classified, but it significantly reduces the number of payment methods they can support (no PayPal, for example) and effectively means that the minimum monthly tier you can do anything with is $2 instead of $1.
So, this isn't some huge moral stand - it's simple business economics, both on Patreon's part and also on the companies through which they accept payments.
Please don't get pissy about this. Perhaps you should go back to the OP on FF&S (https://f95zone.to/threads/family-friends-and-strangers-v2024-10-johnandrich.22416/post-1392682) and re-read the FAQ
I have always listened to people who make suggestions - even "non-supporters" here. (Note my first response to you in this very post, for example.)
Not counting my own posts, there are over 3,000 posts on the main FF&S forum, and over 250 here. I've read every single one of them. I've also read and responded to every one of the PM's that I've been sent, some of which have included full-blown scripts for scenes. Some suggestions from F95 have, in fact, made it into STDH, which you would know if you had, in fact, been following along through all of that history. (Not that I'm blaming you for not reading through almost 4,000 posts in two forums. I certainly wouldn't have. It's just that if you had, you'd realize that your statements aren't accurate.)
So, given all that, I feel that I'm fully entitled to express a "sigh" now and then when certain individual members make the exact same request 6-8 times, or someone else who has not read through all the history makes the same request that has been made in dozens and dozens of other posts and been responded to multiple times.
That's all. It's just one of those
as for the last part, it wasn't me getting pissy. there was no sarcasm meant there. in fact i was trying to say that i don't have the right to be pissy about your choice of accepting requests freely, or from your subscribers exclusively. and that i was apologizing for stepping on your toes there, because of my requests for a few scenes.
finally, thanks for giving emily a second look. and being queen bee in school is the least of all things she could be, if she did continue to work with parker and the bad cops.
again, this a thank you for giving her a second look. this is not necessarily me saying i am expecting you to produce said scenes. so if you decide not to do the reworked emily, it is your choice, and your choice will be respected.
thanks again, for expanding my knowledge (patreon), and on a lot more things.
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No worries. And I don't think this is a case of them trying to "recreate" their image. My guess is that they get a lot of revenue from their "adult side" and want to keep it. (Think about how much money a couple of the biggie adult game producers who have thousands of pledges are making them.) They're just not free to dance to their own tune if they want the payment processor to be nice to them. Between a rock and a hard place.
Then, abject apologies for having read sarcasm into the text. Sigh. Where's that "tone of voice" when you need it.
I really should resist the urge to post here on days when I'm frustrated by other IRL issues - it always turn out badly.
I'll certainly give Emily a hard second look. I'm sure you understand the role she was playing when she was introduced - the stuck-up "popular girl" type who's completely aware of her position and lords it over everybody, thus providing Parker with an opportunity to be the knight in shining armor defending Becky, etc. I tried to make her a bit more three-dimensional when she got sent off to ALC, but haven't really given her much thought since.
If you do happen to have ideas on that score, you're more than welcome to PM me and we can discuss. You wouldn't be the first person to offer me thoughtful critique/commentary/suggestions - those I always happily solicit.