Ren'Py Finding Cloud 9 [v0.5.1] [Onyx Decadence]

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Sandbox non-harem game :sick:. So how does it work? Do you get all scenes and have to pick someone at the end or start a new game and navigate the sandbox over and over for each love interest? I'll definitely pass if it's the latter. That sounds awful.
The new version is nothing like the one now, which will be coming shortly, a lot has been changed, so much so old saves don't work.
 

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Finding Cloud 9 [v0.5.1] [Onyx Decadence]

NOTE: Highly likely that the old saves won't work with V0.5.1 due to new changes. I recommend starting from the beginning, in this update. If you find any bugs or issues please, report them to me in Discord or privately on Patreon! Thank you! Please read the updated in-game tutorial for more clarity.

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Enjoyed the new content. I know the dev participates in this discussion so I wanted to point out a few small errors with the new update. There are a lot of small grammatical issues, but I will let those slide. Here are the things that should be corrected though:

- At one point while talking to Mitch, it seems like a couple lines attributed to the MC that seem as though they should have been said by Mitch. "Thanks for the work." and "Go home and think it through." I don't know why the MC would thank him for the work, since he doesn't want to be there - unless the comment was sarcastic. But it is that second line that doesn't make any sense coming from either character. I think it would make more sense coming from Mitch instead of the MC, but it is a confusing way to end the scene after Mitch explains his motives etc.

- When you are about to have sex with Chloe, she says "sick it in." It's missing the T, should be "stick."

- After a visit with Mila, $25.55 is deducted from your balance. The amount does not fade away and just sits there afterwards, partially visible behind your phone. It momentarily goes away when you go back to the map, but then it is visible again in the following scene with Riley. Finally seems to go away after that scene.
 
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Finding Cloud 9 Cheat Mod

Info: I don't know coding, I used the Cheat Mod that laikdink made for another game and just changed the variables that the mod will change.

Info 2: The mod only changes the variables related to the MC's statistics and not other characters, the statistics are for example: Charisma, money and intellect.

Info 3: To add the mod, simply extract the game.7z file into the game folder. The only file that will be replaced is "screens.rpy" (make sure to extract the RPA if it is in the version you are playing) Compressed or uncompressed.​
 

xXwankerXx

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I know the dev participates in this discussion so I wanted to point out a few small errors with the new update. There are a lot of small grammatical issues, but I will let those slide.
The update was pretty buggy for me too, this is one of the two problems I had with it. This and, holy shit, what's wrong with this dumbass, virgin MC and his insufferable beta idiot attitude in a story about gangsters, murderers, vengeful lunatics, those type of 'good' ppl every sane person should normally avoid like the plague, of all places ??:WaitWhat: I've seen too many spineless, beta MCs than I'd like to admit, but this idiot takes the cake and sticks out like a sore thumb in this type of premise.

Why do most devs think going for an idiotic wannabe white knight is a good idea or something that's 'popular' in the adult gaming community, when there's so many players who're angry with this stupid porn trope. It don't make any sense, and it's so far-fetched, calling it complete bullshit would still be a compliment.

Smart, attractive women like Chloe don't want to be in a casual sexual relationship with spineless idiots like him, cuz they're turned off by their beta bitch boi attitude just like most men are turned off or even repulsed by a lot of those "boss bitches" IRL and their bullshit, claiming they'd want a guy like that for something serious can't be anything but a lame joke. She even teased him about being a virgin after that poor attempt at a sex scene when she was horny asf and ready to go at it all night long, but the would-be "MC" threw in the towel after one lousy, boring asf round of missionary and was surprised she left the next morning without even bothering to talk to him, smfh. The guy in this story is an embarrassment to all red-blooded men out there, in fiction and IRL.:FacePalm::FacePalm:

This braindead insecure retard can't even sexually satisfy a horny, attractive woman like her, and the dev wants us to believe he'll survive in the world of organized crime, with all its "good" stuff, and manage to protect his loved ones too ??:eek::FacePalm: Please, enough is enough. After so many failed attempts from others that tried too hard and failed to sell us this bullshit, it ain't even funny anymore, it's plain ridiculous and offensive to the player's intelligence. Suspension of disbelief can only get you so far... dev might as well tell us next that unicorns, sasquatch and fairies are real in that world, and it still wouldn't make any sense for the MC to act this dumb, boring and like that much of an insecure pussy when it comes to women.

Sorry for the long rant, but this isn't exactly the first time, or the second, or the third, or the thousandth lol, a porn game MC is this much of a big disappointment in a story where you'd expect to see an MC that's the exact opposite of what he mostly was here so far. Whether the dev wants to listen to what I said and give him a lot of character development in the next updates or rewrite him from scratch to make him better is their choice. Can't force anyone to do anything they don't want to.
 

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The update was pretty buggy for me too, this is one of the two problems I had with it. This and, holy shit, what's wrong with this dumbass, virgin MC and his insufferable beta idiot attitude in a story about gangsters, murderers, vengeful lunatics, those type of 'good' ppl every sane person should normally avoid like the plague, of all places ??:WaitWhat: I've seen too many spineless, beta MCs than I'd like to admit, but this idiot takes the cake and sticks out like a sore thumb in this type of premise.

Why do most devs think going for an idiotic wannabe white knight is a good idea or something that's 'popular' in the adult gaming community, when there's so many players who're angry with this stupid porn trope. It don't make any sense, and it's so far-fetched, calling it complete bullshit would still be a compliment.

Smart, attractive women like Chloe don't want to be in a casual sexual relationship with spineless idiots like him, cuz they're turned off by their beta bitch boi attitude just like most men are turned off or even repulsed by a lot of those "boss bitches" IRL and their bullshit, claiming they'd want a guy like that for something serious can't be anything but a lame joke. She even teased him about being a virgin after that poor attempt at a sex scene when she was horny asf and ready to go at it all night long, but the would-be "MC" threw in the towel after one lousy, boring asf round of missionary and was surprised she left the next morning without even bothering to talk to him, smfh. The guy in this story is an embarrassment to all red-blooded men out there, in fiction and IRL.:FacePalm::FacePalm:

This braindead insecure retard can't even sexually satisfy a horny, attractive woman like her, and the dev wants us to believe he'll survive in the world of organized crime, with all its "good" stuff, and manage to protect his loved ones too ??:eek::FacePalm: Please, enough is enough. After so many failed attempts from others that tried too hard and failed to sell us this bullshit, it ain't even funny anymore, it's plain ridiculous and offensive to the player's intelligence. Suspension of disbelief can only get you so far... dev might as well tell us next that unicorns, sasquatch and fairies are real in that world, and it still wouldn't make any sense for the MC to act this dumb, boring and like that much of an insecure pussy when it comes to women.

Sorry for the long rant, but this isn't exactly the first time, or the second, or the third, or the thousandth lol, a porn game MC is this much of a big disappointment in a story where you'd expect to see an MC that's the exact opposite of what he mostly was here so far. Whether the dev wants to listen to what I said and give him a lot of character development in the next updates or rewrite him from scratch to make him better is their choice. Can't force anyone to do anything they don't want to.
Honestly, don't know what you're on about. I'm curious what you'd expect? Him to immediately start killing left and right? Several say this as an issue and I've given more choices in this update where he is starting to stand up for himself, yet people still complain. Not sure why? Besides the game is still unfolding. There will be pivotal choices that will change him. The player will be able to choose who they want to become.
You did exactly that, ranted. But didn't give an ounce of criticism on what you'd do differently. I've been told by many that you can't please everyone and I understand that. But cmon man. What do you want? Everyone who has a problem with MC being a spineless idiot has not said what they'd do differently. You are another one. So, instead of constantly calling him an idiot, dumbass, moron whatever, give examples of what you'd actually expect.
Thanks on shitting on my animations, too.
 

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The MC is a normal character and unusual things happen to him. It would be strange if he reacted like an alpha to so many changes. For me, the development of the story is fine for now, there will surely be changes but asking the boy to be a Terminator when until recently he led a normal life is not the most logical thing to do.
 

xXwankerXx

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Honestly, don't know what you're on about.
It's more than specifically stated there. Take 5/10 mins of your time to read or re-read the post, and you'll see what I found wrong about the MC, not the story itself.

I'm curious what you'd expect? Him to immediately start killing left and right?
Just seeing an MC that's a normal guy for once, talking like a normal guy to an attractive woman without stuttering, acting like a lil bitch, being cringe trying to 'flirt' with her, you know, the usual stuff most attractive women are looking for in the men they wanna fuck, romance, or marry. Instead, we get this poor excuse of a man that's a pretty accurate representation of a lot of things they DON'T find attractive in men. Fuck logic and realism, I guess. :unsure:

Several say this as an issue and I've given more choices in this update where he is starting to stand up for himself, yet people still complain. Not sure why?
The player will be able to choose who they want to become.
You did exactly that, ranted. But didn't give an ounce of criticism on what you'd do differently... instead of constantly calling him an idiot, dumbass, moron whatever, give examples of what you'd actually expect.
Let me make something clear here, cuz it's pretty obvious you didn't get the point I made in my previous post... I DO NOT have any problem with the story itself or how it unfolded so far. It clearly ain't perfect, but it's a promising one that makes for a fun experience playing the game, and a premise like this almost always means the MC's character development is a slow, long process, not an instant "bang bang, you dead" cheat code, and definitely not in the delicate situation he found himself being forced in.

The MC, however, is the biggest minus here, IMHO, he and his submissive beta bitch attitude toward women, not the other guys threatening to kill him and his not-family (!!). I shouldn't even be pointing this out, since he wouldn't be the first a wimpy virgin that fails at being a casanova right after claiming to be "railing Chloe sooo good", but I have to do it.:FacePalm:

Basically, my dude got teased by her for being a virgin failing spectacularly to make her cum, only lasting a few mins in a damn vanilla missionary position, while she was looking forward to a great, intense fuck he didn't deliver. I'd like to say I'm shocked to see this bullshit porn game trope again, for the gazillionth time, but I'd be lying, bcz it was obvious he was a wimpy virgin after he was shocked that Chloe proposed him a "partnership with some extra benefits" to help each other out. Who would've thought that, in a world run by mob bosses, cartel leaders and corrupt rich people, a smart, attractive woman like her would have the audacity to propose that. *Insert a few facepalms here for a clearer picture on how I felt after I read that nonsense, among others*.

I honestly fail to comprehend why he had to be a virgin prior to this point and after claiming he had a lil experience with women before her, but it's his overall exaggerated goody two-shoes attitude that I personally find ridiculous, especially in a premise like this, where only the strong and those who adapt survive. Mind you, there's absolutely nothing wrong with him being a good friend helping Sabrina and Mila out with their problems or having Billy's back, but ffs, he's a soon-to-be gangster or cartel boss or whatever you wanna make him, so he could be a lil more assertive, act more manly (toward the female characters, of course) and gradually become a better, no-bullshit male character, picky with the ppl he trusts, instead of constantly acting like a spoiled, overgrown brat with 0 life experience and 0 experience with women. A spineless beta idiot like that could never survive in a harsh world like the one you created for the story, he's practically one big joke.

How do you even expect to write a believable scenario where this idiot comes out as the winner, when he's dealing with all sorts of lunatics, sadistic killers, backstabbing 'friends' and cartel leaders ?? I sincerely wish you all the best, but I'm starting to become increasingly worried about the game's future.
 

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Thanks for elaborating.
But that's just it. You kind of wrote it out. Conflict, embarrassment, awkward situations, let downs, painful moments, cringe. They are all there to shape him. Both in the criminal world AND in the romantic one. It's going to take time.
I know how it was for me when I first started to meet with girls. Experimentation and cringe. Sometimes overconfidence, sometimes awkward approaches. Not all women want men to to be assertive. Some like that awkward approach, they find it cute. Some don’t. But like you said it. Zero experience. This story is supposed be his “coming of age” story. How, right now, he is like this and how, closer to the end, he will have changed in several ways.
Regarding Chloe:
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Besides, how do you really know what Chloe likes? :) a movie comes to mind: She’s Out of My League. Dude’s not exactly a confident Chad,
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Things to think about for me, sure, but for the time being, continue holding on with suspension of disbelief, if you really like the other aspects. The way I look at it, the game is still on going, there are still things that will happen to him that may or may not impact his outlook (Depending on the players choices). There have been only 5 episodes, in total perhaps 5 hours of gameplay. If we look at it from a series perspective (Name any: Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Lucifer. Plenty more) Then you'll see that character development doesn't happen within 5 episodes. Now, from our perspective, the game has been in development for a good while, almost a year now. So it feels slow. But for anyone playing the full game when it's done. Well it will be much quicker.
 

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Conflict, embarrassment, awkward situations, let downs, painful moments, cringe. They are all there to shape him. Both in the criminal world AND in the romantic one. It's going to take time.
Ok, let's sum up a few things to clear the air and make that great chinese wall of text only a few sentences long. Soo, the bottom line is this:

- I don't have any problem whatsoever with the story, its development, or any of the male characters like Gordon, Mitch, Richard, or the old fart Solomon, except for Billy's character design... no offense, he seems like a great friend, but he also looks like an inbred hillbilly crackhead trying too hard to look like Johnny Sins while literally all the other young guy type male characters look better and normal. Don't understand why you didn't choose anyone else as his character model, but it is what is.o_O

- don't really ask for the MC to be a male pornstar type sex expert, BUT being a dumb virgin with a beta attitude like that and trying too hard to act like a wannabe white knight or a Captain Save a Hoe will only friendzone him forever, in a believable scenario speaking. Take advice from three women and a dude, compare what they say to how the MC acts and draw your own conclusions, links in the spoiler bellow... I don't decide what most attractive women like and not in men, I'm just pointing out the general consensus among them on this topic.

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Soo, the short version of the shorter version is that the MC acts like too much of a stereotypical "good guy" that always finishes last and still bitches about why token Chad and token Tyrone get all the pussy, when in actuality, he was such a cringe spinless ass-kisser and insecure idiot in his relationships and interactions with the women he was attracted to. This is one of the two reasons I had to complain about the game, this and the two short, lackluster sex scenes in this update, not the animations... don't know where you got that from.

This needs to change, IMO, cuz a porn game with a boring MC and boring sex scenes, where the guy finishes too fast or fails to make a horny woman like Chloe, who proposed him herself to be friends with benefits, not just a simple one-night stand (!!), and who was looking for a good fuck he failed to deliver, can't be considered an actual porn game, it's just an adult visual novel with some sexual nudity and Hollywood-level "sex scenes". My two cents on this topic.

Feel free to take into account what I said in my replies and tweak a few things about the MC's character and overall attitude toward the ppl he interacts with, or don't. Your choice.
 

xXwankerXx

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Thank you for your input.
No problem. Sorry for the debatably harsh criticism in my previous replies, but like I said, I'm very disappointed to see another cliché wimpy MC like that again and again in most porn games I play and end up liking. At this point, I swear it seems like some devs, not you specifically, are trolling their potential new fans and supporters with this trope.

Looking at the reviews and your income on Patreon, yours is obviously a very promising game, and it's why I voiced my displeasure with the MC's overall attitude toward the women he's attracted to and the shady guys he interacts with that feels to me like it's out of place in a premise like this one.

You don't have to do everything you can to please everyone, cuz it's impossible to do that, but you could consider adding a more dominant approach to the MC's usual interactions in the story, if coding won't become an issue in the long run, something that would be tied to a good and a bad ending, if he takes shit too far. Just a simple suggestion.

Thanks for taking your time to read my posts and to address the point I made, and best of luck to you with the game !!(y)
 
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