Others Finding Color in the Ashes [Alpha v2.23] [MooncatcherStudios]

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RayBar

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Started a new game now after letting it cook for 3-4 updates...is there even a way to choose the 3rd option here?
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I never used her during combat but this choice never popped up for me , and only showed up once I used her in combat.

Also, I assume I need to trigger her fracturing to access content with her alter ego?
Thanks.
 
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Samknowsall

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The textbox sometimes gets out focus like this. Other time I saw this but didnt get a screenshot of was when i met soldiers while patrolling and traded some alcohol with them for their loot
 
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Soulcatch

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Update 2.3 is looking very promising. Can't wait for it to drop here
Next saturday!

The textbox sometimes gets out focus like this. Other time I saw this but didnt get a screenshot of was when i met soldiers while patrolling and traded some alcohol with them for their loot
Yeah annoying engine bug. Just haven't squished it yet but I will. Thanks for the report!

Having lucy fractured while doing new 3 some scene with ellie doesnt have her fracturing showing up
It's just not implemented yet, but it will be.

There has to be more, I have max affinity with both and have visited a dozen times and still not triggering. Can anyone help on how to trigger threesome?
Once you've progressed their individual affinity enough, AND Lucy's lust is high enough, you can visit Ellie to get the prompt.
 

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Started a new game now after letting it cook for 3-4 updates...is there even a way to choose the 3rd option here?
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I never used her during combat but this choice never popped up for me , and only showed up once I used her in combat.

Also, I assume I need to trigger her fracturing to access content with her alter ego?
Thanks.
If I remember correctly, that 3rd option is VERY difficult to get to show up, because you would have had to get jumped by breaking into lucy's room at night after her story was progressed enough for her to sex you, while also having never cast a spell with her in combat to that point.

Once core systems are in place and I move from Alpha to Beta, there is gonna be a monster pass on stuff like this.

Any chance this'll get an android port?
If it does, it'll be post release.
 
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kumogekkou

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Next saturday!



Yeah annoying engine bug. Just haven't squished it yet but I will. Thanks for the report!



It's just not implemented yet, but it will be.



Once you've progressed their individual affinity enough, AND Lucy's lust is high enough, you can visit Ellie to get the prompt.
Lucy's 300 trust (max) 300 Interest (max) 120 Desire (max) Ellie is 300/300 affinity and 300/300 Interest and it still doesn't trigger with multiple attempts.
 

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Lucy's 300 trust (max) 300 Interest (max) 120 Desire (max) Ellie is 300/300 affinity and 300/300 Interest and it still doesn't trigger with multiple attempts.
I checked the code and haha, my mistake, you also need to make sure Ellie has had a drink. So hang out with your companions in the evening and pour drinks. Otherwise you will need to have unlocked Ellie's scenes and had sex with Lucy at least once.
 
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I checked the code and haha, my mistake, you also need to make sure Ellie has had a drink. So hang out with your companions in the evening and pour drinks. Otherwise you will need to have unlocked Ellie's scenes and had sex with Lucy at least once.
is it random chance? i've made sure all factors are checked and three times now it still hasnt worked. do you think i need to cheat engine their relationship values back down and re-fill them?
 

gmnbf

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what to do in the early game?
what to focus? Seems my resource just spent without having any way to earn money other than RNG waiting for guest to come, which very seldom to appear
I dabbled in other management game, but this one i kinda confused what to do early on, anybody can suggest or share guide
 

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what to do in the early game?
what to focus? Seems my resource just spent without having any way to earn money other than RNG waiting for guest to come, which very seldom to appear
I dabbled in other management game, but this one i kinda confused what to do early on, anybody can suggest or share guide
i been focusing on building up the inn and getting customers so i can pay for more upgrades, but training does help a lot cuz that danger level can be a bit of a bum
 

vampirismfire

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The way I tackle the game is something like this (I haven't played 2.23 so I'm not sure if polearms are better than axe->greatsword->katana):
  • In early game I'm most limited by XP, because a lot of stuff requires XP to purchase. I don't do much inn stuff until the main character is strong and has most of the upgrades.
    • As such I want to fight as many enemies as possible. To do this I need good dice pools in combat, which means decent equipment and stats.
    • The approach I use is to go all in on weapons. I want power and defense (agility is also good later on) to be high, and one more dice slot on your gear. So something like axe + the first armor upgrade. The axe is very cost-effective because it also reduces enemy defense, which is sort of like adding ~0.5 to 1 extra attack dice.
      • You start with 2 hp potions, which you can sell to rookie adventuring parties for 50 gold each. This should be enough to buy axe + an armor upgrade. If not, you can sell some wood on the weekend.
    • As such, I train power and defense as much as I can until I hit the next dice pool increase (every 50 stats you get 1 more dice). Whenever I am low on food I'll gather food.
    • Once I can roll 3 power and defense dice I start spamming "patrol" to hopefully find a lot of enemies to fight. This also has the benefit of increasing your stamina.
    • Whenever Scout shows up you should go hunting with her at night for an extra fight, then patrol in the day to keep the danger level not too high (unless you can fight forvalakas, which usually requires more dice). On weekends you should train power and defense as well. Eventually dodge will be useful against magic enemies, but power and defense will handle most things for now.
    • You want to fight things for XP until you notice the fights are getting more difficult, then focus on raising your stats until they become easy again.
      • The reason for this is that fight difficulty (I think) scales with your level, and your level only increases when you purchase things with xp.
    • Good XP purchases for combat are recovery (because it gives you back health and stamina, which reduces the attritional cost of combat), then the crit/dodge upgrade, and of course you should be chasing the stat uncaps.
  • Midgame (mid-late summer? I can't remember exactly) is when I start to think about gold. Once I unlock potions (and the potion upgrade that doubles potion creation) I start collecting reagents and churning out potions to sell to guests.
    • Around this time I've purchased most of the combat upgrades with XP and am working on magic/rituals. Stasis is the big one here, because it lets me keep inn maintenance high (which increases income significantly) without having to spend many weekday actions. Once I have stasis I never cast anything else until I've reached the post-scarcity stage.
    • When the army shows up, I buy a ton of alcohol and teas from the merchants every weekend. Alcohol lets me host the army more, which gives more favor, and selling teas and potions to the army folks generates a good amount of money.
    • The army unlocks a bunch of good XP purchases as well - the stats are nice and the burn spell makes forvalaka fights much much easier.
      • Around this point I start saving up for broadsword (which gets a flat damage boost scaling with power) and hardplate (many defense dice which can't roll below 3).
    • A very important XP upgrade is the "1 more dice on defence if your initiative is lower, 1 more dice on dodge if your initiative is higher".
      • If you want to fight forvalakas before the burn spell, you always want to have lower initiative. The fight will take something like 5-10 rounds, so the "loss" of the extra attack you get by having higher initiative pales in comparison to being able to negate 3-6 extra damage every round.
      • If you're fighting something that does a nasty debuff (mostly bleed), either kill it fast while using recover to remove bleed 1/combat or try to go first so you can just dodge them instead of blocking the hit and taking the debuff.
      • The "spend stamina to add extra dice" is very useful because Recover replenishes both health AND stamina. Use it to soak big hits or to get quicker kills.
  • Once you can beat forvalakas reliably and have stasis ritual, you're more or less set. Keep your maintenance high, go hunting with scout to farm XP, get your stats to cap (power and defense, then agility, then the other stats), maybe get a katana + upgrades because it's very slightly better than the broadsword (I think 2-3 damage on average?). At this point you can do whatever you want.
 

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what to do in the early game?
what to focus? Seems my resource just spent without having any way to earn money other than RNG waiting for guest to come, which very seldom to appear
I dabbled in other management game, but this one i kinda confused what to do early on, anybody can suggest or share guide
Not your fault, the game doesnt have tutorials right now (thisll change further in development).
At the beginning, focus on fighting some monsters (patrol) and earning EXP. This will let you buy your first level ups. Follow the quests Lucy gives you (kill monsters -> earn herbalism -> build alchemy station).
There is no lose condition, and don't worry if it takes a little bit of time to earn some money and get things fixed up. Do some gathering every once in a while to earn some food and just steadily improve your situation. Before long you'll be in a much better position.
 
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promesteinn

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axe is good but, instanuking mobs with the spell that eats all of your mana is perfect, then using the one per battle recovery and using 5 mana to once again nuking them, then using katana is way better. downside is to use this you need like mid-end game stuff, maybe its doable at early times idk i only started fighting after all my stats come to +150
 
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