Freki.g

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If you really want to help a dev you should support him on his Patreon/subscribestar/whatever. That would also give you some title to comment on the dev’s way of working (in a way, there are limits even in that situation).
Complaining on a site where you get the game for free will only annoy everybody and will not make it completed faster, not even by a second.
Actually the one who is complaining is you and not me.
Another opinion of mine, on this, is that my time that I spend here is also free and I'm not complaining, it means that the support of a fan who does not fund is no less important / productive for the developer and is one of the reasons ( perhaps the main one) for which this site is successful, otherwise we don't understand why all the devs publish here without apparently asking for anything and when a dev gets annoyed he can abandon the project without incurring any penalties and as often happens.
I think, if you didn't understand, no one has reason or right to complain in an environment/market without rules and remains free to act as he pleases, whether this may cause harm or not, and the reasoning applies to both developers as well as for users.
 

PhantomStranger

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Actually the one who is complaining is you and not me.
No, I am not. I am pointing to the fact that the more financial support a dev has, the easier it is to dedicate more energy and time to updates. Otherwise he can only keep working on them in his spare time.


I think, if you didn't understand, no one has reason or right to complain in an environment/market without rules and remains free to act as he pleases, whether this may cause harm or not, and the reasoning applies to both developers as well as for users.
Complaining is fine (if it’s not excessive), but if you think that any complaint made here will accelerate the development of the game of even a second you are simply wrong.

Also, I understand perfectly what you say, thank you very much.
Let’s dial the passive-aggressive replies down a little bit, shall we?
 

JorogrArt

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Lets be honest, "Soon" and "imminent" isnt really an answer compared to an actual time frame for us
Correct. This game is offered and advertised as 100% free. I don't owe anyone a time frame. I've said that I clearly suck at estimating and that I will no longer be providing "target" dates. The update will be ready "when it's done."

Yes, it seems logical to me, except that you can play 15,000 games because, the projects worth playing can be counted on one hand, at least for me, if you then consider that, of those that are worth playing, they hardly update with reasonable timescales (one or two months maximum) it ends up that you follow only one or two at the most.
I mean that whoever finds a project to their liking is also normal to complain, more than anything else an attempt to change the tendencies of many good developers even if, as you said, it is difficult to conclude something which, evidently, if it changed, would be a benefit more to the developer than to the player.
I'm the primary game dev. What tendencies do you think I have and how would you change them? I admit I have some bad tendencies, but I'm genuinely asking.

And for the aforementioned reasons, it happens more and more often to abandon the thread and wait for the project to be completed to play it and in this way I save wasting time in the event of abandonment of the dev and perhaps, if many people adopted this method, something would change.
I'm not sure I fully understand what you're saying, so I will try to restate what you said and you can tell me if I've misinterpreted. It sounds like you're saying that people should boycott the thread and perhaps the game in order to get "something to change." Ostensibly more frequent updates or faster development.

I'm a free speech guy, so if you want to boycott this game, go right ahead. Boycotts are a form of speech and I don't have a problem with people complaining about the game. In my mind, the ideas will (hopefully and ultimately) win at the end of the day. Some complaints are deserved and others are not and I will respond to both the fair and unfair complaints when I can.
 

randomguy6516265165

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just discovered this, pls tell me harem is going to be a thing. its the wt needed? or I can go freestyle I usually use the wt mods when a game has it
 

JorogrArt

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just discovered this, pls tell me harem is going to be a thing. its the wt needed? or I can go freestyle I usually use the wt mods when a game has it
The end game will have Mc having access to all the girls. There is a quest journal and as long as you know to click on everything you shouldn't need a walkthrough. Good Luck, My Dude!
 
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randomguy6516265165

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The end game will have Mc having access to all the girls. There is a quest journal and as long as you know to click on everything you shouldn't need a walkthrough. Good Luck, My Dude!
I forgot to ask are the group sex (MFF) or threesomes? and a steam release? I wouldnt mind buying this game there
 
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randomguy6516265165

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maybe Im bugged but the wt says brook has 3 extra scenes in the night but jasmine is always there
 
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Freki.g

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I'm the primary game dev. What tendencies do you think I have and how would you change them? I admit I have some bad tendencies, but I'm genuinely asking.

I'm not sure I fully understand what you're saying, so I will try to restate what you said and you can tell me if I've misinterpreted. It sounds like you're saying that people should boycott the thread and perhaps the game in order to get "something to change." Ostensibly more frequent updates or faster development.

I'm a free speech guy, so if you want to boycott this game, go right ahead. Boycotts are a form of speech and I don't have a problem with people complaining about the game. In my mind, the ideas will (hopefully and ultimately) win at the end of the day. Some complaints are deserved and others are not and I will respond to both the fair and unfair complaints when I can.
It seems to me more stupid than impossible to try to change someone's tendencies (it's nonsense) and if you yourself admit that they are bad then change them, no one can help you do it.

For the rest, you seem worried, I mentioned the term "abandon thread" and not "boycott the thread".
You know my opinions on the project and/or you can verify them in some of my previous posts, now you know that in case of slow development I will abandon the thread without boycotting it (don't worry, I don't need anything and so I recover my time and have all that that I need) and eventually, for sure, no one will miss my presence.

A piece of advice, if it is useful to you, continue your project with commitment according to your tendencies, it is the only way to achieve your goals if you have set goals and if you're not part of the time-wastering devs wandering around the forum.

P.S. I really appreciate your effort to interact with us.
 
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kopv4

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It seems to me more stupid than impossible to try to change someone's tendencies (it's nonsense) and if you yourself admit that they are bad then change them, no one can help you do it.

For the rest, you seem worried, I mentioned the term "abandon thread" and not "boycott the thread".
You know my opinions on the project and/or you can verify them in some of my previous posts, now you know that in case of slow development I will abandon the thread without boycotting it (don't worry, I don't need anything and so I recover my time and have all that that I need) and eventually, for sure, no one will miss my presence.

A piece of advice, if it is useful to you, continue your project with commitment according to your tendencies, it is the only way to achieve your goals if you have set goals and if you're not part of the time-wastering devs wandering around the forum.

P.S. I really appreciate your effort to interact with us.
Not being able to 100% fulfill his estimated deadlines is a minor inconvenience that shouldn't get anyone to start complaining.
Being that attached to a porn game to the point where you feel it's justified to pester a developer with bullshit like that is a mental issue. It's very unclear from your previous posts if you're the one complaining or defending people complaining. Lord knows you're doing both. Since this game doesn't require any form of payment whatsoever, it's only natural to keep the frustration of not being able to fulfill your porn fix to yourself. Whoever's donating through subscribestar is doing that out of their own free will and there's no obligation to pump out content to cater to their desires.

There is an endless amount of porn at our fingertips. If you've gotten to the point where you desperately rely on a specific handful of developers to get your dick hard, that's completely on you. No need to bring upon unneccesary negativity towards a single developer who's willing to share his creative work FOR FREE whilst making sure that what he releases is of good quality.
 

LovesReD

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We've waited quite a while since the last update. I wish there was at least one new meredith scene in the next update. sorry this update doesn't excite me at all.
 

Freki.g

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Not being able to 100% fulfill his estimated deadlines is a minor inconvenience that shouldn't get anyone to start complaining.
Being that attached to a porn game to the point where you feel it's justified to pester a developer with bullshit like that is a mental issue. It's very unclear from your previous posts if you're the one complaining or defending people complaining. Lord knows you're doing both. Since this game doesn't require any form of payment whatsoever, it's only natural to keep the frustration of not being able to fulfill your porn fix to yourself. Whoever's donating through subscribestar is doing that out of their own free will and there's no obligation to pump out content to cater to their desires.

There is an endless amount of porn at our fingertips. If you've gotten to the point where you desperately rely on a specific handful of developers to get your dick hard, that's completely on you. No need to bring upon unneccesary negativity towards a single developer who's willing to share his creative work FOR FREE whilst making sure that what he releases is of good quality.
I see that you were struck by my considerations / provocations which mostly concern the generality and never anyone in particular.
If it makes you feel better (considering that you don't share and/or understand certain concepts): everyone has fun in their own way (which I personally respect) and I enjoy it that way.
A little advice, anything that destabilizes you and you can't get over it then ignore it.
Have fun, Ciao.
 

zonked5000

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Not being able to 100% fulfill his estimated deadlines is a minor inconvenience that shouldn't get anyone to start complaining.
Being that attached to a porn game to the point where you feel it's justified to pester a developer with bullshit like that is a mental issue. It's very unclear from your previous posts if you're the one complaining or defending people complaining. Lord knows you're doing both. Since this game doesn't require any form of payment whatsoever, it's only natural to keep the frustration of not being able to fulfill your porn fix to yourself. Whoever's donating through subscribestar is doing that out of their own free will and there's no obligation to pump out content to cater to their desires.

There is an endless amount of porn at our fingertips. If you've gotten to the point where you desperately rely on a specific handful of developers to get your dick hard, that's completely on you. No need to bring upon unneccesary negativity towards a single developer who's willing to share his creative work FOR FREE whilst making sure that what he releases is of good quality.
Man you motherfucker, I had written half of this comment, before I scrolled up and realized somebody else had written it.

I actually think it was slightly wholesome though, the guy genuinely just wanted to coach our boy.
 
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kopv4

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I see that you were struck by my considerations / provocations which mostly concern the generality and never anyone in particular.
If it makes you feel better (considering that you don't share and/or understand certain concepts): everyone has fun in their own way (which I personally respect) and I enjoy it that way.
A little advice, anything that destabilizes you and you can't get over it then ignore it.
Have fun, Ciao.
I understand where you're coming from and exactly for that reason: everyone having fun in their own way, I feel like that fun should always be shared in every way possible. However, the delay of a porn game should never be something that diminishes your own fun to the point that you start diminishing another's fun. I must say, my message seemed very directed to you, but I was trying to direct my arguments to those who complain in disrespectful ways just to say some negative shit, which I should have made more clear.
I actually think it was slightly wholesome though, the guy genuinely just wanted to coach our boy.
Like mr. zonked5000 said, you honestly seemed to speak from good intention. I've been seeing so much unnecessary negativity in comments sections all around the internet. It's been annoying me to the point where I almost feel obligated to try and put a mirror in front of those who partake in that. Maybe it's wasted energy, maybe it inspires some to see things from another perspective. I don't mind either way.

Let us reach for higher states of mind my Chinese brother. <3
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Freki.g

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I understand where you're coming from and exactly for that reason: everyone having fun in their own way, I feel like that fun should always be shared in every way possible. However, the delay of a porn game should never be something that diminishes your own fun to the point that you start diminishing another's fun. I must say, my message seemed very directed to you, but I was trying to direct my arguments to those who complain in disrespectful ways just to say some negative shit, which I should have made more clear.
Keep in mind, too, that a dev's success is not composed only of positive opinions; "everything is part of the broth" (this is an Italian quote / metaphor that I hope you understand) and a smart developer knows this.
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kopv4

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Keep in mind, too, that a dev's success is not composed only of positive opinions; "everything is part of the broth" (this is an Italian quote / metaphor that I hope you understand) and a smart developer knows this.
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100% true, I'm not saying that critisism shouldn't be a thing. Complaining to complain is what bothers me. If somebody were to build up their opinion through decent arguments, that's a great thing that a developer genuinely benefits from. The occasional AAAA SON DIDNT CUM IN MOM YET FUCKU DEV BAD REVIEW for these type of games are very undeserved.
 
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