JorogrArt

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Interesting. I will say your animations tend to have way more detail than most animations on this site. I think its how the facial expressions change more, compared to what artists usually do. Adds more "soul" I guess would be the vague term to explain it. It's impressive really.
That's not surprising. Facial animations can be way more complex than one might think. Thankfully, I rely on a Unity Plugin called SALSA with does the heavy lifting in terms of characters blinking, eyeball movements, and emotes (eyelids, mouths, & eyebrows).

Is Charlotte supposed to have bigger tits than Meredith? I know it made a big deal out of them once she took her sweater off or whatever and I haven't really compared.
Charlotte's bust size in the game's Biography page is listed as 38FF. Meredith's is listed at 36F. Caydence and Charlotte are supposed to be the only characters in the game with bigger tits than Meredith. Although, I will admit that every time I draw Meredith I have a habit of making her tits bigger and bigger each time.

new stuff now , touch up later
added bonus you get to traumatize a few ppl :D always a plus in my book IMHO
I don't disagree.
 

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Charlotte's bust size in the game's Biography page is listed as 38FF. Meredith's is listed at 36F. Caydence and Charlotte are supposed to be the only characters in the game with bigger tits than Meredith. Although, I will admit that every time I draw Meredith I have a habit of making her tits bigger and bigger each time.
 
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Charlotte's bust size in the game's Biography page is listed as 38FF. Meredith's is listed at 36F. Caydence and Charlotte are supposed to be the only characters in the game with bigger tits than Meredith. Although, I will admit that every time I draw Meredith I have a habit of making her tits bigger and bigger each time.
meredith's tits when the game fully releases
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so after playing through pretty much the whole game, for a 0.4 version, assumed 40% it has a ton of "not available" content. it shows a ton of potential, but the pay off isnt there.

what i hope to see in future updates, are more scenes and viewpoints for any lewd scenes. and when i saw the bonus scenes, i feel like most sex scenes in the future will be similar. One position, select faster, cum. where is the payoff? one has to find multiple things, complete multiple quests to get to any lewd scene, and then you cant even switch positions or viewpoints.

lets take the bathroom scene for example. I get that at this point you cant just " accidentally " progress to fucking her when she isnt open for that. But we are in a shower. So why not implement eating her out while pressing her against the bathroom window? A blowjob? Holding her head/hair while doing it? turn her around when fingering her? turn her around while fucking her thighs, and kissing her... progress from that in future updates that while face to face, you are able to take the step "just the tip" and then also doggy against the window, cowgirl on the floor, standing, and so on, with anal in the end. and also as a finish option for "cum", cum inside, cum on her face, cum in her mouth.

Make those lewd scenes worth playing for. otherwise it's just *click* uh yeah *click* uh yeah *click* come for me *click* im gonna cum *click* omg i came so much *click* omg so much cum *click* scene ends.
 
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JorogrArt

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so after playing through pretty much the whole game, for a 0.4 version, assumed 40% it has a ton of "not available" content. it shows a ton of potential, but the pay off isnt there.

what i hope to see in future updates, are more scenes and viewpoints for any lewd scenes. and when i saw the bonus scenes, i feel like most sex scenes in the future will be similar. One position, select faster, cum. where is the payoff? one has to find multiple things, complete multiple quests to get to any lewd scene, and then you cant even switch positions or viewpoints.

lets take the bathroom scene for example. I get that at this point you cant just " accidentally " progress to fucking her when she isnt open for that. But we are in a shower. So why not implement eating her out while pressing her against the bathroom window? A blowjob? Holding her head/hair while doing it? turn her around when fingering her? turn her around while fucking her thighs, and kissing her... progress from that in future updates that while face to face, you are able to take the step "just the tip" and then also doggy against the window, cowgirl on the floor, standing, and so on, with anal in the end. and also as a finish option for "cum", cum inside, cum on her face, cum in her mouth.

Make those lewd scenes worth playing for. otherwise it's just *click* uh yeah *click* uh yeah *click* come for me *click* im gonna cum *click* omg i came so much *click* omg so much cum *click* scene ends.
Hello. Thanks for the message. I'm sorry that you had a bad experience playing the game. I do try and ensure that the marketing material for the game is representative of the actual experience. There are a zillion games to play out there and I want to do whatever I can to make sure people understand what they're getting when they click that Download button.

Based on your third paragraph, I would say that this game is unlikely to ever meet your expectations. I can't tell if you're trolling and I'm not trying to be glib (I promise), but I believe you may be taking for granted the effort required to make 2D assets. I would ask what 2D game has the kind of dynamic, interactive sex scene that should be an example for how I should go about making sex scenes.

My recommendation to you is to wait for about three years and you'll eventually be able to type into some AI engine, "Make me a game LIKE Five of a Kind but where the you can spin the mom over in the shower and cum on her face, tits, ass, and armpits while optionally playing the bass harmonica."

If you do not get any value from the current sex scenes then I as a creator will never be able to give you what you seek.
 
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neub1i

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Hello. Thanks for the message. I'm sorry that you had a bad experience playing the game. I do try and ensure that the marketing material for the game is representative of the actual experience. There are a zillion games to play out there and I want to do whatever I can to make sure people understand what they're getting when they click that Download button.

Based on your third paragraph, I would say that this game is unlikely to ever meet your expectations. I can't tell if you're trolling and I'm not trying to be glib (I promise), but I believe you may be taking for granted the effort required to make 2D assets. I would ask what 2D game has the kind of dynamic, interactive sex scene that should be an example for how I should go about making sex scenes.

My recommendation to you is to wait for about three years and you'll eventually be able to type into some AI engine, "Make me a game LIKE Five of a Kind but where the you can spin the mom over in the shower and cum on her face, tits, ass, and armpits while optionally playing the bass harmonica."

If you do not get any value from the current sex scenes then I as a creator will never be able to give you what you seek.
Straitened times has multiple options, Summertime saga added more variations in later updates if you get past the early stages of the main stages, The NLT saga doesnt give one options to select, but it's variations in positions and quality gives it an out.

taffyTales has ton of content, but started using AI. And now i would just start listing VisualNovels who have depth of content and give extended lewd scenes, but arent sandbox game so i wont list them.

regardless, even thinking that i am a troll and dismiss feedback kind of makes me question why you are even roaming this forum. you just ignore what people tell you most of the time any way.

its your game, your right to do with it what you will. this is feedback which can make your game better. you have the liberty to take that advice, or dismiss it every time. Just like Ubisoft.

And yes, im very much looking forward to the AI age of porn.
 

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regardless, even thinking that i am a troll and dismiss feedback kind of makes me question why you are even roaming this forum. you just ignore what people tell you most of the time any way.
"I can't tell if you are trolling" doesn't mean Jorogr thinks you are, just that the way you explained your opinion was ambiguous to him.
He took the time to read your post and write a reply, so how can you tell he ignores people?
The fact that this forum is actually full of trolls makes his being selective in replying just a necessity, if you ask me.

And I wouldn't take Straitened times and Summertime saga as examples, one is 3d rendered (so different time in making images) and a mess in term of unlocking content, the other has a full team of people behind it and still made people wait almost two years for the infamous tech update. Heaven forbid if Jorogr did any of the same, what would have been the reactions here?

So, TL;DR: your post has value, and I am sure Jorogr gave it the attention it deserves, no need to take offense where there was none.
 

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Straitened times has multiple options, Summertime saga added more variations in later updates if you get past the early stages of the main stages, The NLT saga doesnt give one options to select, but it's variations in positions and quality gives it an out.

taffyTales has ton of content, but started using AI. And now i would just start listing VisualNovels who have depth of content and give extended lewd scenes, but arent sandbox game so i wont list them.

regardless, even thinking that i am a troll and dismiss feedback kind of makes me question why you are even roaming this forum. you just ignore what people tell you most of the time any way.

its your game, your right to do with it what you will. this is feedback which can make your game better. you have the liberty to take that advice, or dismiss it every time. Just like Ubisoft.

And yes, im very much looking forward to the AI age of porn.
You gave as an example either 3d games with renders made in daz3d, or games with big income, where a whole team works.

The developer is honest about working in his spare time and obviously he just can't do the same as entire teams of 2d games or 3d games.

And I'm sure many appreciate devs who work alone even if they are inferior in speed to teams because their games usually look the most cohesive in style. The most atmospheric games and soulful games are usually made by a one-man team.
 

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Straitened times has multiple options, Summertime saga added more variations in later updates if you get past the early stages of the main stages, The NLT saga doesnt give one options to select, but it's variations in positions and quality gives it an out.

taffyTales has ton of content, but started using AI. And now i would just start listing VisualNovels who have depth of content and give extended lewd scenes, but arent sandbox game so i wont list them.

regardless, even thinking that i am a troll and dismiss feedback kind of makes me question why you are even roaming this forum. you just ignore what people tell you most of the time any way.

its your game, your right to do with it what you will. this is feedback which can make your game better. you have the liberty to take that advice, or dismiss it every time. Just like Ubisoft.

And yes, im very much looking forward to the AI age of porn.
Straightened Times is 3d, Summertime Saga will be finished in 2050, the NLT saga has short repeating animations with no control, and TaffyTales is a mess.

Honestly, you do look like a troll. Maybe look up how 2d hand-drawn art is made? The hint is in the title.
 

neub1i

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You have just compared a multi-billion dollar company with a single man's passion project.

and you havent understood the correlation to what they have been doing and he is doing and the outcome. thats on you. and i have to spell it out for you as well or do you get my point? no? i thought so
 

Erebus69

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It's pretty clear you have unrealistic expectations and likely don't understand amateur porn game development and project management.

Summertime saga, release date = 8/25/16, Renpy and drawn assets, Patreon : 30,690 paying members
TaffyTales, release date = 3/1/18, Unity and drawn assets, 2531 paying members
NLT saga = Lust Epidemic, release date = 8/1/18, RPGM and Premade/cg assets, Patreon : 10,819 paying members
Straitened times, release date = 5/19/20, Renpy and Premade/cg assets, 407 paying members
Five of a Kind, release date = 8/2/21, Unity and drawn assets, 265 paying members

"TaffyTales started using AI" and has not been received very well by the fans, releases have slowed dramatically, and they've lost 1000s of members

Ubisoft, made 1.814 billion EUR in 2023, and is in financial trouble as its stock is at 10 year low, and down 83% in last 5 years. Due to poor management choices *cough* "AAAA game" *cough*
 

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and you havent understood the correlation to what they have been doing and he is doing and the outcome. thats on you. and i have to spell it out for you as well or do you get my point? no? i thought so
Man you have no fkn idea how hard to draw 2D character from multiple angles and make 2D animation. Professional artist will charge 500$ for such comission just for one angle of view. And this guy is a single hobbyst who making this for his fun, not $$$. You can even see inconsistancy in art (Meredith have very differnt type of faces in diffrent scenes but in this game i dont mind).
 

JorogrArt

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regardless, even thinking that i am a troll and dismiss feedback kind of makes me question why you are even roaming this forum. you just ignore what people tell you most of the time any way.
So, uhhh... I'm noticing a pattern here.

Just because I dismissed YOUR feedback does not mean I therefore dismiss ALL feedback. I suspect this may be a meaningless distinction to you. I could provide a list of at least 20 things I put into the game from player feedback and I could attach an F95 poster name or Discord username beside each idea that made it into the game.

The reason I was so dismissive of your feedback was not because the ideas were bad. Many of those are GOOD ideas. They just seem to assume that 2D concepts, sketches, lineart, rigs, and animations can be picked off of trees or can be immediately produced by the wave of a magic wand.

and you havent understood the correlation to what they have been doing and he is doing and the outcome. thats on you. and i have to spell it out for you as well or do you get my point? no? i thought so
I'm curious. Inquiring minds want to know. What do you mean by "outcome?" What is it that you're not "spelling out" for us?
 

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The reason I was so dismissive of your feedback was not because the ideas were bad. Many of those are GOOD ideas. They just seem to assume that 2D concepts, sketches, line art, rigs, and animations can be picked off of trees or can be immediately produced by the wave of a magic wand.
Were is that hyena Laugh track lolz. Seriously its rare to see any game these days with hand drawn original art and original character concept (based on old tv shows but still original in aesthetic). I personally love your game man. there are probably a million things i myself would like to see get put in there but, rationality tells me 99.9% of it won't be as it's just too time consuming to do. sooo keep up the good work man.


Also, as a public reminder, if a developer dismisses anything you say, you may want to take one thing into account. look to see how many posts they have and how many likes there are as that's a good indicator to how likely someone will come to their defense if you decide you want to make something about it.
 
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