Others Abandoned Followers of Lust Studios [v0.0.2 Public] [Korbent]

Korbent

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Please prioritize adding this. It's tedious having to go back and forth to see which girls are gay, bi, etc.

Another nice feature would be to have gender-specific filters so you can remove from the selection list actors/actresses that you don't want to be considered for the shoot. For example, if a girl is gay then you don't want her to be available (in the list) if you're wanting to shoot a movie that features a male co-star.
First part is complete in the new update. Second one might take some time but I'll note it down for future reference.

I have several questions.
  1. How do you display the MC's own stats?
  2. Why isn't the MC in the list of actors/actresses? The MC should be able to star in his or her own productions.
  3. How do you hire a writer? The button to select one is greyed-out.
  4. The only media I have available is "CD". Are there any others, and how are they unlocked. BTW, no one releases movies on CD. DVD (Digital Video Disk) is used for that. CDs were/are used for music.
  5. Having a max of 3 categories is kind of limiting.
  6. The game provides no info regarding what effect a movie's budget has on the outcome.
1 and 2. That's an oversight on my part, you should now see the player's stats on the director related skills on filming page. I will implement player character starring in his or her own production soon enough.
3. Currently hiring a writer and writing scripts isn't part of the game yet.
4. There aren't any other media formats for now and you are right, it was my ignorance for not knowing this. I always thought DVDs were mid 2000s for whatever reason.
5. Increased it to 4 for now, that also is probably low and will probably needs changing later on when newer categories get added.
6. You are right and I should add more description on what is doing what exactly.

Thanks for taking your time to play and all the feedback.
 
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Korbent

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Very barebones but promising release. Will the PC be able to act assuming you have another director at some point?

As far as endowment I kinda assumed if you chose female it was for breast size. On the subject of getting images/video from all over the web. I wouldn't do it. You open youself up to liability and, imo, text based games can be very good. Some of my favorite ero games are text based. CoC, Newlife before the dev put it on life support, Cursed, etc.
My initial thought was PC wasn't able to perform in the movie because he or she was doing the filming. But now that I think about it there are a lot of movies where cameraman is also doing the act. Also, going on from my initial thought, it was an oversight by me to not allow PC as a performer when someone else is directing. The PC will be able to perform soon enough.

That's what I thought about endowment as well but maybe I was a bit unclear on defining it and will look into changing it. Thanks for the feedback on adding copyrighted content into the game as well. I'm kind of new to this and don't have ideas on some places so I appreciate it.
 

Korbent

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Who knew, it was that easy to become filthy rich. ^^
The budget has to much of an influence on the sales, and it should give diminishing returns on the profits...in the last month on that screenshot I produced 3 films with a budget of 4.5 million each or so....did that from the start, pumping everything in budget, and it's growing exponentially.
It feels like the actors or directors and their stats don't matter at all.
There also needs to be much more interactivity. I'm sure you have that planned from the looks of it, but currently it feels like there really isn't anything to do at all.
:eek::eek: It's my bad for not playtesting it enough. In the new update I limit the budget to $2000 and decreased its effects by 1/3. I don't think it's still balanced by any means but should be better. I also think about implementing a limit on number of productions that could be made in a week so you simply can't pop them out as long as you have 100 bucks for one. My thoughts on the options are:
  • 1 director can produce 1 movie per week
  • 1 performer can appear in 1 movie per week (so if more than 1 performer in a movie, that means less movies that week)
  • Or regardless a general limit 2-4 movies per week
I agree with you on the lack of much content at the moment and working on pumping out new stuff.
 
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Korbent

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So what level of BDSM are we talking about in the game (planned counts as well), I mean is it just going to be a few scenes or a lot, full on bondage with devices, straitjackets, toys etc or just light bondage with the occasional toy or somewhere in between?
I haven't thought much about the interactions yet but when descriptions for movies and categories get fleshed out I can maybe divide the category into multiple sub selections. So at the end you kind of read through what happens in the movie. I'll add clothing, props and locale options later on and they should have effect on the scene's description. I'm not much of a BDSM person myself so I'll read and watch a bit and in the end I hope I get something that looks right.
 

Korbent

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Personally, I like this, I would NOT like to see artwork here that isn't something you can automatically generate. As far as improvements maybe chack Hentai High School for ideas, it's wishlist section on the HHS forums and the F-list kink list for subcategories.
Adding to that, maybe buy costumes, top or bottom preferences, destructible hard limits for actors, one-time volunteers, customizable house, drugging for sexual orientation, subliminal messaging, the ability to campaign against restrictive pornography laws, live streaming, advertising, porn movie gamification (like Pornhub's life selector game or CHYOA), incest between actors, reputation system, surgery, illegally obtained creepshots/ revenge porn, orgies/gangbang/gangrape, sex toys, public sex/humiliation,

I would strongly recommend NOT doing all this but just some ideas
I'll look into HHS' wishlist and forum for ideas, thank you for that and all these suggestions. They are pretty sweet. I especially like the idea of one-time volunteers. Also stuff like customizable house, drugs and surgery probably should have occurred to me but they did not until now reading your post. Thank you again. I'm really enjoying these suggestions and I hope I'll be able to at least implement some of them and improve the game.
 
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:eek::eek: It's my bad for not playtesting it enough. In the new update I limit the budget to $2000 and decreased its effects by 1/3. I don't think it's still balanced by any means but should be better. I also think about implementing a limit on number of productions that could be made in a week so you simply can't pop them out as long as you have 100 bucks for one. My thoughts on the options are:
  • 1 director can produce 1 movie per week
  • 1 performer can appear in 1 movie per week (so if more than 1 performer in a movie, that means less movies that week)
  • Or regardless a general limit 2-4 movies per week
I agree with you on the lack of much content at the moment and working on pumping out new stuff.

So thanks for responding to my comments about text size; I'll playtest when I get a chance. Really appreciate you being responsive to our suggestions and comments.

I think it'll make sense to limit how many movies performers perform a week, but I wouldn't make many definite limits because porn is shot differently in different places. In Japanese porn, there's usually exclusively one actress who does all 3-5 scenes. But in US/European porn especially in the early 2000s you'll usually see 4-6 actresses, each doing one scene.

So it may help to implement some kind of a "Stamina" attribute (physical and/or emotional) that limit how much porn an actor can shoot a week. If the movie being produced involves 2+ performers, maybe you can cut the stamina hit by some fraction depending on how many performers are in it. (So a 4-person setup, maybe the actresses only lose 1/2 the stamina they would if it was just one actress) And maybe the kinds of porn that's being done changes the stamina cost (so gangbangs cost a helluva lot more than solo masturbation)

I also would add that I like @Sadomasochist's ideas overall. I would introduce some variables (that can be turned off) for VD outbreak, getting threatened by gangsters/rival production lawyers/agents/Congress. In addition, drawing from HTML games like Life Choices or so, as a producer/performer you also need to manage yourself before you become a bimbo yourself.

There's a lot of ways to go with this, but a porn management game would be interesting. Will continue to watch for this and chime in when I see something worth raising.
 
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AWolfe

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Can you hire writers yet?
If you'd bothered to read the post at the top of this page (post #41), the dev's reply to question #3, you'd have your answer. Please read threads before posting in them.
 

RustyXXL

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:eek::eek: It's my bad for not playtesting it enough. In the new update I limit the budget to $2000 and decreased its effects by 1/3. I don't think it's still balanced by any means but should be better. I also think about implementing a limit on number of productions that could be made in a week so you simply can't pop them out as long as you have 100 bucks for one. My thoughts on the options are:
  • 1 director can produce 1 movie per week
  • 1 performer can appear in 1 movie per week (so if more than 1 performer in a movie, that means less movies that week)
  • Or regardless a general limit 2-4 movies per week
I agree with you on the lack of much content at the moment and working on pumping out new stuff.
I haven't tried the new version yet, but I do think that a stamina/fatigue mechanic might be a good idea. Give the actors different stamina as one of their stats.
For directors/writers, creativity might fulfill a similar role. Having one director or writer pump out one film after the other negatively impacts their creativity, and might support the player having a rotation of directors/writers.
Also have different sex acts have different stamina use maybe even per gender, or even have the stamina use depend on how often they do that specific scene. But it could go both ways. Either support actors specialise in certain scenes, or support variety by making repetedly doing the same scenes with the same actors cost more stamina.
Potentially even make it so, that not the whole amount of stamina can be recuperated in a week at the beginning, depending on how complex your films are.
This could even be influenced by adding more rpg like stats, or research/film props that influence these values.
Additionally a limit on how many scenes 1 actor/director/writer can do apart from that makes sense to me.
I mean filming should take some time after all, and there are only that many hours in a week.

Edit: Gameplay comes from overcoming obstacles and limits.
 
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Sadomasochist

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  • 1 director can produce 1 movie per week
  • 1 performer can appear in 1 movie per week (so if more than 1 performer in a movie, that means less movies that week)
  • Or regardless a general limit 2-4 movies per week
I would like any combinations of these options but someone brought up a stamina bar... PLEASE DON'T. I'd rather have a reliable mechanic here than none. And some games just have a stupid level of detail to look for (looking at you No Haven). I already am apathetic to the many different variables, please don't make me have to care about 10 variables at once
 
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RustyXXL

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It totally depends on where you are going with this. If you want something more casual, keep it simple.
If you want something more deep, you should consider adding more depth and complexity.
Either way you will have people who don't like it. There are people who want it more casual, and there are people who like complexity.
I personally like complex mechanics, and I think there aren't many games that really offer complex mechanics on this site. On the other side there also are a lot of people who more or less see adult games as not much more than a porn delivery method.
Decide what you want, and you will find your followers. :)
 
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Erik1986

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So first of, i like the concept of the game, and what is present at this time looks promising. As for some feedback/personal hopes.
Some of my ideas/hopes
Actor/Actress having bonus to some genre's:
Like POV, BDSM, etc, based on perhaps traits or age (a older women playing a femdom BDSM movie makes more sense then a 18 year old in my opinion.) Older women would be more popular in say MILF genre, while young acters/actresses would be better for other genre's.

More genre's:
Some obvious absent ones are MILF, Gangbang and perhaps Incest (there a whole slew of step-daughter/son/etc ones going around.) Most could be added with a settings option to disable unwanted content.The first 2 are actualy one of the biggest among the genre's, and also adding more variation would be fun. Right now it is a bit limmited.

Traits:
Acters/Actresses already have some (breast/penis sizes, sexual orientation.) But having traits that give bonuses to specific genre acts as descibed above would add to how valuable a acter/actress is to you. It would mean a more difficult development i realise though.

Control of the scene:
As director of a movie (only for MC perhaps) it would be fun to have more control over how your movie is setup ( start with some light action, then slowly go to the more heavy stuff.) So basicly what if you could decide how your movie plays out in more detail. Its kinda dificult to explain, but since we can select up to 4 genre acts (like Oral, BDSM, Femdom, Deepthroat.) what if we can direct how each of those acts show up and in what order, with a bonus or penalty base on your director skill and perhaps choosing the right genre's that fit together and in the right sequence. Like i said its dificult to explain, but i hope its atleast somewhat explained this way.


Those are some i can name of the top of my head. As always though, teke it in the direction you want, these are just things i hope get added. Keep up the good work and good luck.
 

Korbent

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Control of the scene:
As director of a movie (only for MC perhaps) it would be fun to have more control over how your movie is setup ( start with some light action, then slowly go to the more heavy stuff.) So basicly what if you could decide how your movie plays out in more detail. Its kinda dificult to explain, but since we can select up to 4 genre acts (like Oral, BDSM, Femdom, Deepthroat.) what if we can direct how each of those acts show up and in what order, with a bonus or penalty base on your director skill and perhaps choosing the right genre's that fit together and in the right sequence. Like i said its dificult to explain, but i hope its atleast somewhat explained this way.

Those are some i can name of the top of my head. As always though, teke it in the direction you want, these are just things i hope get added. Keep up the good work and good luck.
Thank you for taking your time to play the game and this detailed feedback of yours. I think some actors/actresses having bonuses to some categories feel only natural and is a good idea I'll look into.

More genres with the ability to turn them off if not desired is one of the core updates I think on adding in future. I'm a bit unsure about on how to implement something like say an incest category. @Umbra_Corvus asked a similar question related to the BDSM stating if there'd be a light version of it or full-on hard as the rock we live on BDSM with all the kinks and I'm not quite sure on how to implement these sub-categories, just like incest having sub categories of stepdad-daughter, stepmom-son, stepsiblings etc. But I'll try to figure it out by the time I get there.

Traits are interesting and surely would make actress A different from actress B more than only the size of their breasts or their stats on paper. That sentence doesn't sound right, I'm a bit bad with words when sleepy. What I'm trying to say is unique traits surely make performers unique in more aspects than only a few already defined in-game and is a good suggestion.

Currently I'm working on implementing a pretty similar feature to "control of the scene" you described above. You essentially choose how the scene goes by queuing "acts" like "kissing", "blowjob", "fingering" etc. and that becomes your movie. Hopefully it should be ready soon and not suck much. Hehe, get it? Suck. Yeah, but no seriously, I hope it won't be too bad.

Thank you once again for taking your time with this detailed feedback, it means a great deal to me.
 
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Supra61

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I can compile a Mac version if anybody can to test for me. I have no access to a Mac and I can't test if it's working properly. That's the reason there isn't a Mac version.
I can test, but currently I havent more time and possible test can't bu done so fast