createforfun

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I believe the controls are in the options? If not, I think I recall the option on the top-left of the game window.
Well, for now, I only know that the arrow Left and Right is to moving, x to jump, A to attack, arrow up + A is to use Slime wall, arrow down is after try to get the elf girl and W is to give up. Nothing else. Ngl, I hope this game at least has a tutorial for basic control like this, I don't even know how to save the game or what to do when HP is low and anything else
 

Tears of Tarnished

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The question has been answered by myself but:

Versions A and B will eventually have all of their content put into version R - download version R for the updated content and the updates that are coming along, and only play A and B if you want to see what'll be arriving in version R sometime down the line.

what so the latest update already has a content from A and B ? im bit confused of anything

Or the latest version is a R version that will have content from currect update, A + B ?
 
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what so the latest update already has a content from A and B ? im bit confused of anything

Or the latest version is a R version that will have content from currect update, A + B ?
Download version R. That's the version getting updates.

A and B aren't receiving updates, and should only be played if you want to see how the original games looked.
 

Supreme Dumbass of Thyme

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Well, for now, I only know that the arrow Left and Right is to moving, x to jump, A to attack, arrow up + A is to use Slime wall, arrow down is after try to get the elf girl and W is to give up. Nothing else. Ngl, I hope this game at least has a tutorial for basic control like this, I don't even know how to save the game or what to do when HP is low and anything else
Which version of the game are you playing? Because if you're playing any of the more recent builds, there IS a tutorial.
 

Zane Carlson

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Can someone tell me where is the file name "fobs-v119a.exe" and "fobs-v102b.exe"? I can only find "FobsDemo_7_30.part1.exe", "player.exe" and "FobsDemo_7_30.part2.rar"
Which version of the game are you playing? Because if you're playing any of the more recent builds, there IS a tutorial.
No no, I think it's for the older versions.
 

Supreme Dumbass of Thyme

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No no, I think it's for the older versions.
I figured that was the case, but at that point I have to ask, did Zell really leave the old builds without a tutorial? Or was it just somewhere out of the way? No shade towards either, it's not like that design choice really would have any impact on my view of them now, but it does strike me as a tiny bit of an odd choice.

Then again, the engine itself wasn't the best, so if the tutorial had to be forgone for the sake of content, fair enough.
 

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got a question, does donwload this august 2025 i can get all veontent from typa A and B (all content merged) ?? or i have to play A and B first and then the latest one ?
They are all separate games. A and B are the first versions of the game, with B being the extension of A.
This new game is like a remaster/reimagined version of the original A/B game. Some monster-girls come back with similar capture mechanics, and some new ones are added.
The current amount of content on this new version is a lot less than versions A and B
 

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They are all separate games. A and B are the first versions of the game, with B being the extension of A.
This new game is like a remaster/reimagined version of the original A/B game. Some monster-girls come back with similar capture mechanics, and some new ones are added.
The current amount of content on this new version is a lot less than versions A and B

Ohh right so the current update doesn't have as much as Ver A + B. But will be updated to have both A + B content right?
 

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Actually you are not right either, ToS and SnY are 2 different games, and Sa2 and SnY are Ansala projects, Zell only participates as an Artist.

Zell started working on SnY, things weren't working so well, so they asked Ansala to aid with the programming stuff, but at some point Zell didn't agreed with the direction of the game because Ansala have different tastes than them.

So Zell created ToS that along FOBS are the only projects so far that belong exclusively to them.

SA2 was on the works before SnY replaced it and took priority over, on Ansala circle official website they claim that SA2 development will (re)start after finishing SnY. Now, it's was been many years since then, who knows if that will still happen anyway.

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As you can see in the screenshot above, SoY was planned to be a "Horror Action ADV" following the aspects of the first builds originally made by Zell, but at some point that changed to a new direction, it will now be a "Dark Action RPG", with a gameplay a lot similar to SA (you can find many gameplay vids on the , feel free to check them out if you want for comparison, it's free, you only need to make an account and following them).
Well shit, I stand correct, thank you very much.
 

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Actually you are not right either, ToS and SnY are 2 different games, and Sa2 and SnY are Ansala projects, Zell only participates as an Artist.

Zell started working on SnY, things weren't working so well, so they asked Ansala to aid with the programming stuff, but at some point Zell didn't agreed with the direction of the game because Ansala have different tastes than them.

So Zell created ToS that along FOBS are the only projects so far that belong exclusively to them.

SA2 was on the works before SnY replaced it and took priority over, on Ansala circle official website they claim that SA2 development will (re)start after finishing SnY. Now, it's was been many years since then, who knows if that will still happen anyway.

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As you can see in the screenshot above, SoY was planned to be a "Horror Action ADV" following the aspects of the first builds originally made by Zell, but at some point that changed to a new direction, it will now be a "Dark Action RPG", with a gameplay a lot similar to SA (you can find many gameplay vids on the , feel free to check them out if you want for comparison, it's free, you only need to make an account and following them).
Do we generally know what the progress is like on that horror game thing Zell was working on? Like I don't get what is actually going on now that it's been years. Is the new game where they split whatever anywhere near completion yet? Is it being worked on exclusively by Ansala? Does this mean Zell won't work on SA2 at all?

Why is he working on re-refinishing Forest of the Blue skin now instead of finishing that horror game.
 

Zane Carlson

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Ohh right so the current update doesn't have as much as Ver A + B. But will be updated to have both A + B content right?
FOBS_A hit a roadblock, engine limits were reached, Zell could not add anything more even if they tried.
FOBS_B was a try to continue the game but eventually they put the project on hiatus.

Now they are back on a new engine, developing a Remaster of FOBS_A and FOBS_B which we are aptly naming FOBS_R.
Starting development early last year Zell has giving us consistent monthly updates to the game with added features, revamped animations and new areas or monsters/enemies/characters!
There is currently 1 fully finished area and one area that is close to finished.
While FOBS_R is content wise lacking in contrast to FOBS_A and FOBS_B, it does get consistent updates with new goodies and has many improvements over the origianl.

So in conclusion: If you want to have a finished product, play A than B, if you want a better experience then play r; we recommend to play A first, followed by B and than follow development with R.

Hope this clears things up and enjoy the game! :giggle:
 
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Do we generally know what the progress is like on that horror game thing Zell was working on? Like I don't get what is actually going on now that it's been years. Is the new game where they split whatever anywhere near completion yet? Is it being worked on exclusively by Ansala? Does this mean Zell won't work on SA2 at all?

Why is he working on re-refinishing Forest of the Blue skin now instead of finishing that horror game.
The last post on the horror gallery (at this point it was more of just the gallery then game) said that scenes were finished, although the game would still need to be assembled, and focus would be shifted to the FOBS_R project effectively starting it's development.
That was in April 2024.
 

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Do we generally know what the progress is like on that horror game thing Zell was working on? Like I don't get what is actually going on now that it's been years. Is the new game where they split whatever anywhere near completion yet? Is it being worked on exclusively by Ansala? Does this mean Zell won't work on SA2 at all?

Why is he working on re-refinishing Forest of the Blue skin now instead of finishing that horror game.
Shiratane Tower is probably still on hiatus (second horror game created and currently being developed only by Zell). Details about it below.

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Shiro no Yakata is the first horror game created by Zell, after some issues during development the leadership of the project was passed to Ansala and is being worked in collab between them. (Last update below, more info in the official Cien page).

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Too my understanding most of the Pixel Art work under Zell responsibility is done, currently Zell is playtesting the game and reporting bugs for Ansala to fix while he also assemble all the game elements into a functional game, during that process Ansala can request additional elements from Zell, like new icons or map sections and also asks their opinion on multiple topics and ideas.

There are other people involved in the project, for example the CGI's of the game are being commissioned to multiple Artists (see below).

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Some of the media shared in the past few years (may be outdated)

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My personal opinion is that Ansala would have a lot to win by having Zell participating on the development of Succubus Affection 2.
You can see multiple commentary on their official Cien page addressing him as if he was Zell, just to be corrected or informed that their message will be delivered to the actual Zell.
So there is a big fanbase that could be at risk if Zell or someone just as capable wasn't involved.
 

Peredine

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I have no idea why out of all the eroge out there, SnY & ToS are plagued with this amount of contradicting information and development hell, especially when FoBS and SA were almost gold standard of delivery schedule and development transparency.
Which is a shame, "horror" themed "gentle femdom" that aren't plagued with questionable fetishes (thinking about you Poring,
the forbidden lab was weird man) games are quite rare.

It's doubly surprising since FoBS have some levels/zones (especially in the B ones) that are clearly going for something a lot darker than the casual lovely start.

I hope that what Ansala is working on won't be too much like SA, gimme em' xenomorph and shit, yo.
 

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that aren't plagued with questionable fetishes (thinking about you Poring,
the forbidden lab was weird man)
I think that was part of the story as it is called "forbidden lab" for a reason.
Horrible experiments are conducted there with possible ties to all the "testers" being clones of an original hero bloodline from the ancient times.
With other experiments going over lust and sexuality but on the levels of mutations and disfigurement that, if found out by the outside, would definetly be forcefully stopped.

Yes we don't really want to see some of those scenes (green portal) it does serve to show what twisted things are going on in this place shut off from the outside.
Besides, you can skip everything by giving up to quickly end the scene and/or resetting the stage when you fully drain your life bar.

I otherwise agree with your sentiment about the Ansala/Zell games.
 

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Just notice the the 1.04 brings some change to existing h-scenes(maybe?) the nightmare's h scene in the haunted mansion has a side cut-in showing the h in her boobs
Edit: after running around and fucking the entire gallery, its just the nightmare that has a updated h- probobly becuase you could'nt really see much happening before
how do you get to the mansion? i cant find the dream key
 
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