Others Formamorph [v1.1.5] [FieryLion]

[Serpream]

sorry but the default AI (my potato PC) memory limit is around 2500 in the settings panel, I set it to 2000 to be safe. If you want to increase this number you must use your own AI endpoint with a model that has more memory. If you set it to 5k the game will sill run, until it tries to use more memory than available (around 2.5k) and the AI will return error 400 then.


There's a little pen icon that allow you to edit all stats, and also the game text.

There is a download button in the load menu (and also a button to upload your downloaded save files), if you don't see it you are on a very old game version.

Consdering how many of us also missed the pen tab. I am curious how the 3d model is handled. There seems to be an option for 'player to customize it', unless that is related to the pen?

I am hoping an updated and more detailed model could be added in future. Including hip size and visible stuff that can change with descriptions.
AI is even now capable of making models, so I am sure modifying in realtime would be easy for the correct AI model.

Also noticed stats have a type dropdown, but only number selectable. Was wondering if we could allow text so AI could use as record for key stuff, like mutations? It will eventually forget and start all over again in same areas.

 

[fierylion]

Consdering how many of us also missed the pen tab. I am curious how the 3d model is handled. There seems to be an option for 'player to customize it', unless that is related to the pen?

That just means the player can customize the model on game start.

I am hoping an updated and more detailed model could be added in future. Including hip size and visible stuff that can change with descriptions.
AI is even now capable of making models, so I am sure modifying in realtime would be easy for the correct AI model.

Detailed models (like DAZ) that are customizable such as changing the body morphs and hair style, ... are insanely expensive, I'd need to sell at least 3 kidneys. With AI its possible to generate nice human bodies, but there's no fine-tune controls such as hip size or body shape/fatness, so there'd be no customization or changes during gameplay.

Also noticed stats have a type dropdown, but only number selectable. Was wondering if we could allow text so AI could use as record for key stuff, like mutations? It will eventually forget and start all over again in same areas.

I'm implementing the memory as a separate feature so the AI doesn't corrupt the stats (it loves to to dis if we make stats editable key values). The only other stat type I planned for now is "Category" which the stat has fixed selectable values such as Expression = ['sad', 'happy', 'smiling', ...] that can be used for controlling 3D model facial expressions and possibly 2D illustration in the future

 

[Serpream]

Interestingly I managed to get the AI to make new traits during gameplay now, but no way to have them display currently on the traits tab once made.

 

[Breedking]

Interestingly I managed to get the AI to make new traits during gameplay now, but no way to have them display currently on the traits tab once made. View attachment 4583629

Honestly, I'd save the traits and new stats to a text file and add them to the world edit trait list. That's kinda neat that the AI has done that.

 

[muoto8900]

Interestingly I managed to get the AI to make new traits during gameplay now, but no way to have them display currently on the traits tab once made. View attachment 4583629

How did you manage that one? I have had issues when attempting to just have the AI edit the current stats when things somehow get into the negatives or past 100.

 

[Breedking]

Edit: the text post was getting massive, the AI was creating traits almost every turn. I'll be saving them to a word file though, so if anyone wants to see it, let me know.

 

[Deathend]

im trying for the ai to keep track of pregnancies and until a system for it gets implemented i want it to be added to the narration as a status including how many babies, the father(s) and how long until childbirth. im trying to put a rule for this in the system narration area show it shows at the end of every narration, but the ai is ingnorin it, any help of what should i put there to show on every narration page?

Edit: i somehow managed it, but in a weird way not even i am sure how XD, i put the rule in the narration area, but the Ai ignored it, then in one of the prompts i added to the prompt this
(show pregnancy as status, the babies inside, the father of the babies and how long since pregnacy (just one day)))

(the last part is because Ai invented it has been twelve weeks enven tough it happened just the day before)
and from that point it started showing it, but if also added the full siuation on the list, then i got tired of it showing the full situation on the list and i added
(only show pregnancy related status on the current sutuation) and it finally started showing only the pregnancy status,
now lets see how long it takes the ai to break the rule XD.

 

[muoto8900]

Does anyone know if there is a way to stop the AI from assuming too much of your actions? I tried taking it off Single-Paragraph Events as I enjoy the extra details you get out of it and the AI seems to get pretty creative. However, there are times where the AI will just assume what your character is going to do without any interaction from you. I am hoping to prevent this but not sure how. I have tried telling it a few rules such as

don't assume the player's actions or decisions
Always stop when a player's action is required

Which has helped a bit but it is either forgetting or ignoring/breaking it like what Deathend mentioned. Anyone have any advice on how to reinforce this rule or a way to say it in a way that it will understand better?

 

[fierylion]

Does anyone know if there is a way to stop the AI from assuming too much of your actions? I tried taking it off Single-Paragraph Events as I enjoy the extra details you get out of it and the AI seems to get pretty creative. However, there are times where the AI will just assume what your character is going to do without any interaction from you. I am hoping to prevent this but not sure how. I have tried telling it a few rules such as

don't assume the player's actions or decisions
Always stop when a player's action is required

Which has helped a bit but it is either forgetting or ignoring/breaking it like what Deathend mentioned. Anyone have any advice on how to reinforce this rule or a way to say it in a way that it will understand better?

You can try an AI better calibrated for creative writing, such as Celeste (this is old tho I think there are better newer ones). The default AI is dumb, has limited memory, and barely runs on my potato computer that has to service like 50 concurrent players.

If you turn off Single-Paragraph Event you certainly have to use an AI with more memory as the default 2k is not even enough to store one page of responses.

 

[Serpream]

So been heavily messing with AI, and the local AI with this game.
Overall I am super happy with responses, but the way stuff is forgotten is just something I cannot currently control.
I have managed to slowly use the Stats Number to track lickely hood of a mutation, but eventually AI will still forget.
Wondering if a seperate body section like <PLAYER> prompts that could help with keeping things on track by using smaller. One sentance body section responses?

Either way potential is still huge for future as working on my own little world, abusing my local AI and pushing limits of what it can come up with.

I have only accidently caused an infinite loop response twice somehow, despite setting response limits O-o

fierylion- Is the Max Memory the local limit, or what the AI should remember?
You also have Max Output Tokens, but does this total include the various sections like world and stats? or is it repeated multiple times, so each section prompt for example would get the 6000 I set?

Also highly recommend this guide from Itcho -

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Thoseprompts near bottom have helped immensly.

 

[muoto8900]

You can try an AI better calibrated for creative writing, such as Celeste (this is old tho I think there are better newer ones). The default AI is dumb, has limited memory, and barely runs on my potato computer that has to service like 50 concurrent players.

If you turn off Single-Paragraph Event you certainly have to use an AI with more memory as the default 2k is not even enough to store one page of responses.

I have tried this both with the one you're running and the free one you suggest. Both have similar behaviors but funny enough, yours seems to play within the rules set more often than the free one does. That one loves to do whatever the heck it wants sometimes.

 

[Serpream]

I have tried this both with the one you're running and the free one you suggest. Both have similar behaviors but funny enough, yours seems to play within the rules set more often than the free one does. That one loves to do whatever the heck it wants sometimes.

If it helps look for models that use the 'Uncensored' and 'instruct' for example I am currently testing llama-3.2-8x3b-moe-dark-champion-instruct-uncensored-abliterated-18.4b with amazing results.

 

[nightsight]

If it helps look for models that use the 'Uncensored' and 'instruct' for example I am currently testing llama-3.2-8x3b-moe-dark-champion-instruct-uncensored-abliterated-18.4b with amazing results.

got link for that

 

[Serpream]

got link for that

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*would seem Above has hiccups of refusing to comply with stuff like mutationsin some contexts* Back to searching I go...

So far

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is showing great potential.

 

[Breedking]

Huh I’ll give that a whirl tonight, assuming my computer can run it. Meta’s llama was too intensive.

 

[girovaldo]

an idea, character creation similar to a mod of skyrim, the mod name is RaceMenu, so we can "sculpt" the face of our protagonist

 

[Breedking]

an idea, character creation similar to a mod of skyrim, the mod name is RaceMenu, so we can "sculpt" the face of our protagonist

Image creation AI is (by my understanding) massively more complicated and gpu power intensive than a chatbot. It would be cool, but you'd probably need a server to run something like that. I'm sure someone would correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm trying to run the

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dist right now, will report back on it later tonight.

 

[fierylion]

an idea, character creation similar to a mod of skyrim, the mod name is RaceMenu, so we can "sculpt" the face of our protagonist

I would need to sell at least 3 kidneys to get a 3D model with that many customization sliders .-.

 

[muoto8900]

If it helps look for models that use the 'Uncensored' and 'instruct' for example I am currently testing llama-3.2-8x3b-moe-dark-champion-instruct-uncensored-abliterated-18.4b with amazing results.

Sadly unless its free I won't be able to use it. Right now I am using mistralai/mistral-7b-instruct:free

 

[muoto8900]

Not sure why, but now the AI is currently responding with tons of periods after its paragraph.

Update: So I think when it has been repeating or adding those "........" after its sentences that it has been doing multiple requests. The reason I think this is, I have done maybe 50 requests but it says I have already performed 200 so my daily cut off just hit and I am a bit confused.