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Grizloy

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Shouldn't the game be marked as "complete", not "abandoned"? From the info blurb on the itch.io page:
Has been discussed many, many times (in the last few pages, but reading is hard, I guess). That blurb was about the very first "barebones" version of the game posted by the original developer. The game in it's current state is still full of bugs, and has been completely abandoned by both the original developer, people who has been working on it afterwards, and the modding community (which doesn't exist, except for that guy posting the AI portraits for it). The Patreon and Reddit pages are long since deleted, the itch forum is basically a ghost town, and the modding community, again, doesn't exist. Call it "completed" or "abandoned" if you wish, just stop kicking the dead horse and let it be forgotten in history.
 

Qahlz

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Has been discussed many, many times (in the last few pages, but reading is hard, I guess). That blurb was about the very first "barebones" version of the game posted by the original developer. The game in it's current state is still full of bugs, and has been completely abandoned by both the original developer, people who has been working on it afterwards, and the modding community (which doesn't exist, except for that guy posting the AI portraits for it). The Patreon and Reddit pages are long since deleted, the itch forum is basically a ghost town, and the modding community, again, doesn't exist. Call it "completed" or "abandoned" if you wish, just stop kicking the dead horse and let it be forgotten in history.
I was mostly posting because it was freshly marked as "abandoned" this weekend. And the notes for the specific tags simply state that a "completed" tag is applied

[....] when a game is released in its full version as stated by the developer. Note that complete games might still receive patches and post-release content.
And this seemed to apply, even though it apparently received further updates after that, as stated by you. Can't really check it myself, since the git repo only goes back to 1.6, and the waybackmachine only has the NSFW warning when pointed to the itch.io page in 2021.

Whether or not a game with bugs or incomplete content should be marked as either "complete" or "abandoned" is probably a separate discussion.
 

Grizloy

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I was mostly posting because it was freshly marked as "abandoned" this weekend. And the notes for the specific tags simply state that a "completed" tag is applied



And this seemed to apply, even though it apparently received further updates after that, as stated by you. Can't really check it myself, since the git repo only goes back to 1.6, and the waybackmachine only has the NSFW warning when pointed to the itch.io page in 2021.

Whether or not a game with bugs or incomplete content should be marked as either "complete" or "abandoned" is probably a separate discussion.
This situation has already happened several times already (abandoned->completed->no status->abandoned->completed etc.), but in short: this is a Schrodinger game - it's both completed and abandoned at the same time. It started as a barebones of a game, had a VERY active development (new versions every few days), which slightly slowed down in time, then about a year after the first release SUDDENLY all activity ceased, both Patreon and Reddit pages went dead, then a year ago (two years after it went silent) there was a small patch, dropped by somebody, but that's it. So while on one hand this game is technically counts as "completed", in reality it was dropped, abandoned and forgotten by just about everybody. And again, only in the last two pages this abandoned-or-not theme has been discussed at least 5 times, so at this point it's just kicking the dead horse.
 

nackedsnake

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Call it "Abandoned" or "Finished" are both correct with right context.
But Don't Slander The developer nor spreading blind / unnecessary hate.
The Developer Set out to create this Game Frame so everyone can create their own contents even without any coding knowledge,
He has achieved that in a very impressive timely manner, and then moved on. He's very contentment at what he does.
He never said that he will stay / continue to develop the game.

The downfall of this game is mainly due to it's never grown large enough to grip a steady stream of contributors, due to lack of contents in the first place - but that was never his goal.
Also this is not "A dead Horse", people still play it, creating mods for it despite being insignificant.


I was mostly posting because it was freshly marked as "abandoned" this weekend. And the notes for the specific tags simply state that a "completed" tag is applied

And this seemed to apply, even though it apparently received further updates after that, as stated by you. Can't really check it myself, since the git repo only goes back to 1.6, and the waybackmachine only has the NSFW warning when pointed to the itch.io page in 2021.

Whether or not a game with bugs or incomplete content should be marked as either "complete" or "abandoned" is probably a separate discussion.
This was tagged "Abandoned" for a long time. But I see You get it switched to "Finished".
I don't know why people so hang-up on these tags, the rules of these tags on F95 makes them not a reliable indicator, Like "Anything without a downloadable update within 6 months will be tagged 'Abandoned'", really no point to care about them so much.
 
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Massah

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The Dev didn't keep the Patreon open after stopping to work on the game, so I can't be too mad at him.
 

Forbidden7200

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While playing I have received this bug when trying to use the relationship manager duty, I have tried to play around it but getting certain factions to max relations is effectively impossible (such as the elves), if anyone knows of a fix it would be greatly appreciated.

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Qahlz

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While playing I have received this bug when trying to use the relationship manager duty, I have tried to play around it but getting certain factions to max relations is effectively impossible (such as the elves), if anyone knows of a fix it would be greatly appreciated.

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I don't think I've seen that error before. When exactly does this occur? Would you mind providing a savegame where this occur?
I probably can't fix this, but I may be able to find a workaround.

Edit: Oh, I think I see the issue. Seems like you ran the compile script then opened the "index.html".
Don't do that, use the "precompiled.html" that is in the same directory.
 
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Forbidden7200

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I don't think I've seen that error before. When exactly does this occur? Would you mind providing a savegame where this occur?
I probably can't fix this, but I may be able to find a workaround.

Edit: Oh, I think I see the issue. Seems like you ran the compile script then opened the "index.html".
Don't do that, use the "precompiled.html" that is in the same directory.
Was not aware that could be an issue, the assistance is greatly appreciated.
 

GlowVonGlow

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I'm not sure if this is where to ask buuut...does anyone know how to unlock the vice-leader office? I created an account JUST to find out because I'm going bonkers over here.
 

GlowVonGlow

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Strange. I have everything but the temple and veteran hall but it's still not coming up. That or the relations manager. I was wondering if I needed to befriend someone more or get a specific quest or something
 
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