Ren'Py Four Elements Trainer [v1.1.3h] [Mity]

[IdarksoulsI]

Yes, depression should never be taken lightly and there is no 100% cure for it, just treatments that have their own dangers.
The thing is though, we don't know what really is going on. Cbob could be drinking a Margarita in the arms of a beautiful girl/man. Marty and cbob could be the same person. It's unlikely but we just don't know.

That's why I don't see any use discussing this topic over and over. Only thing I'll add to that is that I'm quite positive Marty is capable of finishing that game on his own. But we'll see.

 

[Josh M Spicer]

Huh.

If 8Teen is any indication, Marty really can match the level of writing cbob brings (brought?).

 

[RealKorra]

Nitro Tepas true, true

Akabur just disappeared as far as I know. He does good work on what he does, but... all he did that I recall is the actually pretty short Witch Trainer, most content people know is added from external mods, Princess Trainer, which has much more content but a huge bad/clifhanger ending and he said there are no real plans for a sequel to fix that, a combination game that may have some minigames, and that Dark Lord Trip RPG Maker one.
I think the artists of the Witch Trainer are working on their own HP parody though, Innocent Witches?

The Ben10 game too, just... one big scene and disappeared. And I was really liking the idea, got into the battle system a bit even.

Tenebrys there was someone doing one, RealKorra I think it was... but she got an ear infection and stopped?

And for those saying "if I was getting as much monthly money as they are I would never be depressed"... you guys have no idea what depression is.
It is not feeling just sad, as if you had money problems.
It is a brain condition. Our brain is literaly sick. It thankfully doesn't affect us all the time, but when it does it stops us hard.
Some people go suicidal. You remember Robin Willians? Do you think he killed himself for lack of money or something? No, he got depressed big time. That is what cbob is going through.
And no, I do not think it is in bad taste to mention him. Because this what people are saying cbob "can't be going through with that money", is literaly the stated cause of Willians' suicide, and I even have depression myself.

my Ear infection is gone and i have allowed my team to take control of all duties of the game. they are rebranding the game and all. i stepped down in order to allow them to do whatever that needs to be done to make the game.

 

[RebelliousKnightMordred]

It seems kinda biased that my comments earlier in the thread about how they've constantly lied and led patrons on while failing to meet deadlines got removed for not being on topic and yet all this praise and talk about how cbob *may* have depression is allowed.

For starters have they straight up come out and said "Yes cbob had depression." because as far as I can see, all marty has said is that "The pressure is hard, he's gotten writers block and he's hard on himself so we're stopping the patreon for now since it puts so much pressure on us." right? Note how they explicitly claim a big source of the pressure is getting paid monthly while not delivering. Call me and asshole or a cynic or whatever and I'll even admit, I am absolutely jaded, but it feels like they've just burnt out working on the game.

I can't blame them for that either but at the same time I can blame them for lying about release dates constantly, whether it's miscommunication between cbob and marty or whatever. It's happened so much that I can't just believe anything they say, I'll always see it as an excuse.

That being said I think if comments against MITY are going to be removed for being off topic then that rule should be consistent and remove ones that are for MITY for being off topic. At the very least be honest about why it was removed. Being rebellious is in my name so I can't just take this laying down.

 

[Balrog]

I'm still on the 'depression is no excuse, especialy while ghosting a business partner' team.

 

[HmmmYes777]

Look while I know depression is NO joke- I won't go into personal details of how it affected my life and those who I care about- I feel that if this depression is that real to the point that this person is ghosting their business partner, then it may be time to look to other options/focus on a new project. Which is being done with this teen titans game.

I think that Mitty needs to look into finding a replacement. Yes it WOULD take time for someone new to understanding the coding and work with a new change in the story from what was going to originally follow but by this point in the months that we've waited, I feel that there should be options going on to keep the consistency of this game going.

Hell if it was indeed decided with an announcement that they would be looking for a new coder/writer, I am sure it's more progress than us just being left out in the dark like this with no end in sight ESPECIALLY when communication is basically non-existent and no updates from that person on how they're doing or if they even want to continue working on this.

Seriously it's about being professional and again from personal experience, I had to come forward for the sake of staying employed and getting the help that I desperately needed.

 

[Galgano]

So what all does Mity do in this game? Is it just the art, and they hire out the rest of the work (coding/music/story) to others who are better than them? Or do they do more?

 

[Josh M Spicer]

So what all does Mity do in this game? Is it just the art, and they hire out the rest of the work (coding/music/story) to others who are better than them? Or do they do more?

MITY is the team of Marty and cbob.

Marty does all of the art (and everything on the side games and 8Teen).

cbob does coding and writing of the story on the main game.

The music is free-to-use music you hear in most games on the site.

 

[joe nemo]

Nitro Tepas true, true

Akabur just disappeared as far as I know. He does good work on what he does, but... all he did that I recall is the actually pretty short Witch Trainer, most content people know is added from external mods, Princess Trainer, which has much more content but a huge bad/clifhanger ending and he said there are no real plans for a sequel to fix that, a combination game that may have some minigames, and that Dark Lord Trip RPG Maker one.
I think the artists of the Witch Trainer are working on their own HP parody though, Innocent Witches?

The Ben10 game too, just... one big scene and disappeared. And I was really liking the idea, got into the battle system a bit even.

Akabur was working on another game, StarChannel 34 or something like that. Haven't heard much of it recently. There is a clique of Russian artists, writers and coders that seem to hop between games. Princess Trainer is being followed up by Iris Quest, but progress on that is sporadic at best. They are also working on Library Story, which is a Belle from beauty and the beast trainer. That game is pretty far along. I think they also made the start of a Scooby Doo game and a few others.

Russians are creative perverts, but do not know what schedule means. They produce what they feel like when they feel like it.

The Ben 10 trainer is still in progress, but the developers make the Russians look like workaholics. Every month the artist will squeeze out a few drawings of the Ben 10 game and a Scooby Doo game they are working on, other than that its been empty promises for over a year.

There is also a Danny Phantom game, Amity Park, that's in progress and moving at half the rate the developers promise.

 

[Genji]

Akabur was working on another game, StarChannel 34 or something like that. Haven't heard much of it recently. There is a clique of Russian artists, writers and coders that seem to hop between games. Princess Trainer is being followed up by Iris Quest, but progress on that is sporadic at best. They are also working on Library Story, which is a Belle from beauty and the beast trainer. That game is pretty far along. I think they also made the start of a Scooby Doo game and a few others.

Russians are creative perverts, but do not know what schedule means. They produce what they feel like when they feel like it.

The Ben 10 trainer is still in progress, but the developers make the Russians look like workaholics. Every month the artist will squeeze out a few drawings of the Ben 10 game and a Scooby Doo game they are working on, other than that its been empty promises for over a year.

There is also a Danny Phantom game, Amity Park, that's in progress and moving at half the rate the developers promise.

All of that are shitty developer that squeeze the money out from their patron.The update release is like what?1 - 2 update each year?There is some that take 2 yrs for 1 update.I'd rather use my money to the dev that worth it.

 

[RealKorra]

hmm. it looks like Mity put FET on hold for other game, Ben 10 lmfao

 

[Josh M Spicer]

hmm. it looks like Mity put FET on hold for other game, Ben 10 lmfao

It was the Teen Titans game, actually.

And they didn't put FET on hold to work another game. 8Teen is something the artist does all on his own.

 

[F1forhalp]

I'm still on the 'depression is no excuse, especialy while ghosting a business partner' team.

i'm still not on anyone's team, but i can relate to several treatments of stuff having an impact on alot of things, like creativity, or just the ability of coherent thinking or getting yer acts together. sure they could have come clear a bit sooner.
then again i'm a durrteh pirate yarr sitting on a pirate site, never paid for anything they did. so i do what a pirate does, biding my time with side grabs, waiting for the big stuff. yarr.
they will come up with something, or they just end it. nothing we can do about it. there'll be another good prey. there always is. until then, oh, i correct myself, i'm still on my team, yarr. heave ho! 80 Gigs of games to play, until the next FET update.

 

[JotaFPR]

Korra's Love route is still incomplete right?? I got to a point where I try to sleep and it says under development and cant do anything more

 

[Ryoichi^^]

Korra's Love route is still incomplete right?? I got to a point where I try to sleep and it says under development and cant do anything more

yes

 

[YoraeRasante]

RebelliousKnightMordred
First things first... thank god you strted using line breaks. It makes you much more readable.

Marty did not mention what problem cBob has... but cBob himself said he started taking antidepresants. As they are a big deal and not sold legaly without a prescription, he is definitelly diagnosed with depression.
Or he just admitted to buying illegal medicine.

And I'm pretty sure the problem is not so much comments against Mity, but because as we started discussing them they went out of the scope of the thread itself - FET. As you can see by their other project, 18Teens (or now 18Titans) having all comments about it removed (because else the new thread would be lost pages away from its creation).

FriendlyBoi69
The problem here is, FET is actually cBob's project. Marty is just a hired artist, even if they developed a friendship.

Meaning... the only one that can be substituted is the one that is still doing things. To hire someone to take cBob's place in anything, the one we need to talk to is... cBob.

 

[Balrog]

the one we need to talk to is... cBob.

That's only valid as long as the dude doesn't literaly ghost the project. If a founder of a company dissapear and doesn't interact with the company anymore, he doesn't stay in charge.

 

[YoraeRasante]

That's only valid as long as the dude doesn't literaly ghost the project. If a founder of a company dissapear and doesn't interact with the company anymore, he doesn't stay in charge.

You are thinking of big companies, with CEOs and those things. This is a two-person thing.

My father and my uncle started their store together when they were young, they actually bought from their emplyer instead of having it closed or something, and then later were able to open a second after my uncle moved. They each had their own separate stores.
Even so, they had, legally, to pay the other a part of what their respective store profitted each year. And save for merchandise purchases and sales were made together. For example, they bought a small store on a "shopping" that was opening in my town to rent, when it was new and, supposedly, cheap. The shopping was too small and the population not that big, so they were not gettng much, but they could only sell if both agreed.
They also had to agree on employees hired.
They only recently finished the paperwork to separate their businesses.

So long story short, yes, even if a founder doesnt interact with this kind of company they still stay in charge.

But... In fact, this is not even really that. Mity is technically actually just cBob, and Marty is his employee. Even if they got close and became friends, Marty was still just a hired artist.
Just because the owner doesn't visit the store, that doesn't make the manager the owner now. There is a reason Karen calls the owner if they can't win through them.

 

[RealKorra]

that's very true.

 

[Balrog]

You are thinking of big companies, with CEOs and those things. This is a two-person thing.

Laws are the same either way and it work the same way, the size of the business doesn't matter here.