Ren'Py Four Elements Trainer [v1.1.3f] [Mity]

[Pr0man]

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Well, it's entirely possible that after they complete the game in its entirety, that there will be extra updates working on earlier books to a certain degree - it was stated in comments left on patreon by MITY a couple times (that's been quite a while though, so don't actually quote me on that) that they might do some touching-up of older content, but not entire reworks from what I remember. So the question is rather: "To what extend is stuff happening after the game is technically speaking done?"

But by the looks of it this also means that the coder is doing these whole book segments all by himself without much attention to modularity within the book, but rather only cares about it all functioning with the remainder of the game. If the code for each book by themselves is an actual mess but works with the remainder of the game, getting in an extra coder there seems to be doing more harm than good at that point.

 

[Deleted member 436513]

Well, it's entirely possible that after they complete the game in its entirety, that there will be extra updates working on earlier books to a certain degree - it was stated in comments left on patreon by MITY a couple times (that's been quite a while though, so don't actually quote me on that) that they might do some touching-up of older content, but not entire reworks from what I remember. So the question is rather: "To what extend is stuff happening after the game is technically speaking done?"

But by the looks of it this also means that the coder is doing these whole book segments all by himself without much attention to modularity within the book, but rather only cares about it all functioning with the remainder of the game. If the code for each book by themselves is an actual mess but works with the remainder of the game, getting in an extra coder there seems to be doing more harm than good at that point.

IMO it's worth thinking about FET as if Mity has released four separate games so far, titled "Katara Trainer", "Toph Trainer" and so on. It makes more sense that way too, why the hell would you need to worry about the love system's variables that Azula Trainer had when that game was finished years ago, and you're now working on Korra Trainer. Similarly, why the hell would you go back and work on the mooselion game in Katara Trainer to fix some minor bugs when you haven't touched it in years and the next update of Korra Trainer is eagerly awaited by the fans.

Modularity also comes naturally to things like minigames, since what you're doing on the Ren'Py level is effectively telling the system "go run this thing, and once it's done we'll continue things back here". You could even go on the Lemma forums, find a complete minigame that somebody else wrote and integrate it into FET with three lines of code and about fifteen minutes of work. The logic of e.g., a crab battle or a poker minigame has nothing, and SHOULD have nothing to do with the actual flow of the game, or the map system, or the day night cycle, or whatever else. At most you'll be displaying some porn scenes or setting some variables like the player's money.

 

[Maid Lain]

FET's code needs to be labeled as a crime against humanity and cleansed in holy water. Finding a new coder would benefit the game (and my sanity while modding it) quite a lot.

 

[Trello]

I'm guessing that your guess is incorrect, given that I AM a programmer (and someone familiar with FET's code for that matter), but I understand what you're getting at. Obviously it's not just a swap-in replacement, and even someone working on a relatively simple project like a Ren'Py VN would need weeks if not months to familiarize themselves with the existing codebase. Same with hiring a second coder, unless they're working on distinct parts of the game independently (e.g., someone on the map system and someone else on the minigames), it tends to become a managerial clusterfuck, especially with small "internet" projects.

On the other hand, that's still better than the alternative of having NO programmer at all. The worst case scenario we're looking at here is basically "guy takes 2 months off, decides that he's done anyways and quits". Hence why it makes sense to plan for that possibility, however remote, just in case. The team having a budget of 20k and only two members is kind of an anomaly.

I'm also a bit cynical when it comes to believing that he's been spending these grueling, 80 hour work weeks nonstop for the past 4 years just to make the game happen, given the amount/quality of the writing and the code, but let's not get into that. I genuinely do hope he takes the time he needs and things can get back to normal.

Yeah I see your point, hopefully we don't need the worst case scenario but I suppose it's a good idea to have one plotted out in case it is necessary.

I must admit, I never realised it was literally two people working on the game. On one hand they're probably both VERY rich from making this and on the other they must be very tired from just being two people working on a game with such a large scale as this.

The quality of the game both from a code and writing perspective is incredibly impressive given that side of things. Seeing the update above it looks like we're getting there anyways

 

[Evans15]

FET's code needs to be labeled as a crime against humanity and cleansed in holy water. Finding a new coder would benefit the game (and my sanity while modding it) quite a lot.

Wait... you still have some sanity left?

 

[splamo]

Me waiting another month for the update like

 

[Erodaz]

Me waiting another month for the update like

Patience is a virtue.

 

[splamo]

Patience is a virtue.

Yeah, yeah. It's just some playful ribbing.

 

[Darth Helmet]

No complaints from me. He's keeping us updated and laying it all out to us. He isn't making up excuses like a few other devs.

 

[WindIsHowling]

Me waiting another month for the update like

I've got no choice. I must freeze myself.

 

[Astra Starwalker]

Bug:
Freed Jin without fucking her, PC comments on having fucked Jin in the tunnels during their first meeting at Jasmine Dragon.

 

[IdarksoulsI]

Bug:
Freed Jin without fucking her, PC comments on having fucked Jin in the tunnels during their first meeting at Jasmine Dragon.

That's not a bug but a failure on your part.

 

[Astra Starwalker]

That's not a bug but a failure on your part.

That's just me taking the nice guy route my first time around

 

[F1forhalp]

if you've worked with one coder for what, 4 years+ now, you grow accustomed to eachother.
that's imho more like breaking up a marriage and not like just some swap of a blown tire.
that's a piece of work you've done together.

there my $0.02.

 

[Dremo]

Is there still futa content in this game?? The tag keeps getting removed and re-added every other months...
Some people said the labyrinth girls in book 3 can have futa content, if this is real, how can I trigger it?

 

[Josh M Spicer]

Is there still futa content in this game?? The tag keeps getting removed and re-added every other months...
Some people said the labyrinth girls in book 3 can have futa content, if this is real, how can I trigger it?

The two female guards you fuck around with will meet up with the MC in one of the rooms. They'll offer you something that indicates their involvement in sex and asks you a question. If you answer yes, or something along those lines, you can get a three-way futa scene with the girls where one has a penis and you spitroast the other one.

 

[Dremo]

The two female guards you fuck around with will meet up with the MC in one of the rooms. They'll offer you something that indicates their involvement in sex and asks you a question. If you answer yes, or something along those lines, you can get a three-way futa scene with the girls where one has a penis and you spitroast the other one.

Weird. I believe I'va completed the labyrinth and visited everyrooms, yet I've never seen this event

 

[Balrog]

Weird. I believe I'va completed the labyrinth and visited everyrooms, yet I've never seen this event

It depend on your route.

 

[sasshy222]

I wonder if anything will culminate from the Jinora scenes, there's tons of implication.

 

[IcemanUndercover]

wait hold on, why woud anyone use his index finger to scroll. So does that mean he's using his thumb to left click. I thaught that everyone uses his middle finger to scroll.

I usually have my index finger near the center of the mouse, it lets me scroll with the side of my index finger while still being fully on the left mouse button. If I really need to I just move my index finger over.