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Ren'Py Four Elements Trainer [v1.1.3h] [Mity]
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- Jan 10, 2018
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The programmer get an existenstial crisis that last months or weeks every few months since that whole disaster a while ago it seems.
They really refuse to hire a backup programmer or what ? Cause like it would solve 90% of their problems.
They really refuse to hire a backup programmer or what ? Cause like it would solve 90% of their problems.
careful, you made a sensible comment, which can generate a false moralistic comment like:
"You can't give an opinion if you don't give money to the game dev."
careful, you made a reasonable comment, which can generate a false moralistic comment like:
"You can't give an opinion if you don't give money to the game dev."
- Dec 30, 2019
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Dammit, they make over 10k$ a month each from patreons like me. I promptly quit supporting them. This is not cool. We don't talk here a writer block that can neither be predicted nor mended by mere decision. We talk goddamn python programming, probably the friendliest among languages.
I dont see there being a new coder unless the current one quits on his own accord. The artist might be the public face of MITY but I dont know its ever been said that its strictly his project (meaning he could get rid of the coder if he wanted). Its been the two of them for years so I dont really see them changing that when theyre halfway done with the 4th book.
That being said, the Artist really needs to tell the coder to get his shit together. He has a pretty consistent track record of falling behind on updates meanwhile the Artist will finish what they need to do for the current build and already be working on scenes for the next one. Obviously we dont know whats said between them behind the scenes but if the artist has tried to get the coder on task then it clearly isnt working.
Its honestly more sad than annoying, this is one of the best western porn games out there right now and the updates are almost always top notch, but they have a nasty habit of failing to meet deadlines and lengthy periods of radio silence leaving patrons in the dark (the artist is a little better about this, at least). Considering we're now 10 days into October and still no word on when the update is even coming out, they should give the update to anyone who was pledged last month regardless of their October pledge (or lack thereof). While each update sometimes takes a few days more than a month, 10 days (assuming it were released today) is too much, especially since it was promised "in a week" more than a week ago.
That being said, the Artist really needs to tell the coder to get his shit together. He has a pretty consistent track record of falling behind on updates meanwhile the Artist will finish what they need to do for the current build and already be working on scenes for the next one. Obviously we dont know whats said between them behind the scenes but if the artist has tried to get the coder on task then it clearly isnt working.
Its honestly more sad than annoying, this is one of the best western porn games out there right now and the updates are almost always top notch, but they have a nasty habit of failing to meet deadlines and lengthy periods of radio silence leaving patrons in the dark (the artist is a little better about this, at least). Considering we're now 10 days into October and still no word on when the update is even coming out, they should give the update to anyone who was pledged last month regardless of their October pledge (or lack thereof). While each update sometimes takes a few days more than a month, 10 days (assuming it were released today) is too much, especially since it was promised "in a week" more than a week ago.
The other problem is that overall the patreon community has this really weird mindset that you aren't allowed to complain about something you have the choice not to pay for, and will generally let creators fuck about for weeks/months or more without putting out any significant content, and thats encouraged certain creators *cough* ICSTOR *cough* to milk patrons goodwill for months on in and rake in money for doing nothing, so long as they occasionally make a "Totally working on it guys but Im stressed and sad 
" post, and people cheer this stuff on.
I just dont want MITY to end up like that, its clear that at least one of them has genuine passion for the project and wants to do more in the future, but if you can take home 25k a month by phoning it in, why bother?
/endrant
" post, and people cheer this stuff on.I just dont want MITY to end up like that, its clear that at least one of them has genuine passion for the project and wants to do more in the future, but if you can take home 25k a month by phoning it in, why bother?
/endrant
- Dec 30, 2019
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They don't have to replace coder. There are plenty of freelancers out there. I used to work with an Indian guy that made excellent PHP coding for a reasonable price and real fast (I gave him more than he demanded after seeing the quality AND speed. He earned it!).
- Oct 28, 2019
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you forget, that, to a big part, this coder is also the writer which means, artist alone even with a different coder would be a complete game changer. that has been explained a small few years ago in some patreon post. cba to dig it up, since i dropped any patreon years ago. in essence, this coder out could mean good luck writing the story. matters worse, that time of his health/mental etc crash would be close to a full year now? maybe stuff comes back up. mammal brains never work right.
Its a shame because the first build for book 4s love route was the best opening build theyve ever done, and it started this route with so much promise, it would be really shitty to have to go through months of delays and silence like last year
- Oct 28, 2019
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o you young 'uns so set on just one game, you must be suffering.
i for myself have right now about 5 different -other- games from this forum i still have to play through.
i can wait. maybe even start a full playthrough not before bk4 love route is finished. maybe yall look around a bit and find something else to play, for the inbetween?
i for myself have right now about 5 different -other- games from this forum i still have to play through.
i can wait. maybe even start a full playthrough not before bk4 love route is finished. maybe yall look around a bit and find something else to play, for the inbetween?
- Oct 22, 2018
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Oh you think we don't. Cute. I have like 15 other games I check once in a while, yet only rarely these make me anticipate the next update. That goes to show that MITY is doing something right.
- Mar 16, 2018
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Well I guess thats a rather measured freakout compared to most other projects on here when it comes to delay-news.
Proud of you guys. *silently hides torch and pitchfork*
Proud of you guys. *silently hides torch and pitchfork*
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- Jan 10, 2018
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I never said to replace him, I said to get another coder in addition, having only 1 artist and 1 coder was a bad idea from the start if you make enough money to hire backup.
Like, it's just a basic organisation advice that would literaly solve every problem MITY currently has.
- Oct 22, 2018
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Weren't some people saying the code is so messed up you'd basically have to start from scratch to make sence of it? I don't understand any of that, just read comments saying this.
- Jan 10, 2018
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More like it's basicaly spaghetti coding that's pointless convoluted and is to be avoided in group project.
But I don't know shit about coding.
This is only partially true. The code isn't so much a mess as it is not efficient from what I recall. There was a conversation on here some months back where someone went through the code because others were complaining about it and showed that it's not the big mess everyone thought it was, but that it's also not super well written code.
I personally haven't looked at it (not that I'd really know too much of what I'd be looking at as I'm no programmer and only have a basic introduction to Python), but that's the story I've been told on here from people who seem to know better than I do about the subject.
On the topic of the update being "late". If you were making 10k+ a month and you had no expectation to release regularly or suffer any consequences for not releasing regularly, would you be putting in as much work as you could to finish as quickly as possible? Or would you take an extra "payday" every few months to pad your bank account? The crowd sourcing model doesn't work if there are no consequences/responsibility involved. If putting out an update every 45-60 days is enough to keep your patrons around then that's what you're likely to do, regardless of how "noble" your original intentions were.
The code that was really messy were always the mini games. There you could truly see that the coder is very inexperienced.
For the rest: Its not like writing a Renpy Game with (basicaly) linear progression is that complicated. So besides the code not being well structured (which mostly affects bug hunting being harder), the code is 'alright', since there isn't much to do wrong.
At least thats what I remember from looking at the code a few months back.
The writing is always top notch though. I also wish they would get a separate coder. It honestly wouldn't even be a full time job for a games like this, especially for a programmer with actual experience.
For the rest: Its not like writing a Renpy Game with (basicaly) linear progression is that complicated. So besides the code not being well structured (which mostly affects bug hunting being harder), the code is 'alright', since there isn't much to do wrong.
At least thats what I remember from looking at the code a few months back.
The writing is always top notch though. I also wish they would get a separate coder. It honestly wouldn't even be a full time job for a games like this, especially for a programmer with actual experience.
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- Nov 25, 2017
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Yeah I remenber everyone here laughing at the minigame's code. I didn't because I don't know shit about coding but everybody that did had a good laugh that week.