Ren'Py Four Elements Trainer [v1.1.3h] [Mity]
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- Oct 28, 2019
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that's what i was talking about some pages back, why some extra coder could be of less help as expected.
i could bet he's writing the story right into the code, while coding. that would at least explain the spaghetti.
Oh, kinda late and had to go through about 10 pages... and now I sympathize with cbob more than ever!
I'm a programmer with aspirations for writing, and not only I have some depression bursts now and then, one of them caused by a coding issue I fixed VERY easily after getting better,
I also have some severe cases of writers' block. Recently gave a cliff's notes version of the ending of my more popular story in fanfiction.net, so long the block on it has been I thought unfair for the readers.
So yeah. I can totally see something with the level of writing of this game being stuck for months due to writers' block.
As I said, sometimes we may have the script, a mental storyboard, to me that is even easy really... but in order to put it into words, into the characters and descriptions, that is the part that really blocks you hard.
And then when coding a game, both game design, including gameplay thus the coding (in this cases minigames) and story should hopefully be integrated, so a block in one harms the other too. And when the story asks for a new minigame to be added...
Art can use a placeholder, or be made in advance if plans are already made - as mentioned my story had a fully planned plot but the block was in putting it as readable, interesting story. So the artist being done but the coder not means nothing...
(Also, about those talking about how the h scenes in the slave route are better than the love ones... that's the idea, isn't it? Love for story and character development, slave for sexy times focus?)
I'm a programmer with aspirations for writing, and not only I have some depression bursts now and then, one of them caused by a coding issue I fixed VERY easily after getting better,
I also have some severe cases of writers' block. Recently gave a cliff's notes version of the ending of my more popular story in fanfiction.net, so long the block on it has been I thought unfair for the readers.
So yeah. I can totally see something with the level of writing of this game being stuck for months due to writers' block.
As I said, sometimes we may have the script, a mental storyboard, to me that is even easy really... but in order to put it into words, into the characters and descriptions, that is the part that really blocks you hard.
And then when coding a game, both game design, including gameplay thus the coding (in this cases minigames) and story should hopefully be integrated, so a block in one harms the other too. And when the story asks for a new minigame to be added...
Art can use a placeholder, or be made in advance if plans are already made - as mentioned my story had a fully planned plot but the block was in putting it as readable, interesting story. So the artist being done but the coder not means nothing...
(Also, about those talking about how the h scenes in the slave route are better than the love ones... that's the idea, isn't it? Love for story and character development, slave for sexy times focus?)
Hank Moody
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Team Mity is a good team of people. They get paid a lot but they are not scammers like other devs.
The writing is often incredibly funny and has been consistent throughout the entire game.
I wonder if coding causes depression
- Oct 28, 2019
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ah yes, guess you got stuck at some point then, kinda can't really finish the Toph part without the sidelines.
then again, i do like the Jo Dee content of slave route more than the love route one. that's just me.
Reluctant Sinner
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As somewhat of a writer myself I totally understand this problem. It sucks when you lose inspiration, and keeping interest in projects for years is a whole other pain. I will wait with baited breath for any progress. They haven't failed us yet.
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I think that people who don't write, either professionally or recreationally, do and can not really comprehend the problem of a writing block—and I'd rather wait a year to get a good update than monthly mediocre/shitty updates.
Writing block is a bitch and I dont think anyone is arguing otherwise. What sucks is when we're left in the dark for weeks with no word, thankfully the coders updated us (even though he had to be prodded by the artist to do so each time). The delay sucks but I agree better to have to wait and it be good than rush it and it be subpar.
Especially now since this update might very well be the last one of 2020, not counting the potential Halloween special the artist hinted at.
Especially now since this update might very well be the last one of 2020, not counting the potential Halloween special the artist hinted at.
Mistervd
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Ok, ok that's enough. Let's not go that far...
Reluctant Sinner
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Don't put that energy out there into the universe I don't want to even think about waiting a year for an update
this hiatus is being better for me than jojo's.
I at first mistook the month to last month, then mistook the day to 12 of this month instead of 17, and have been updating mangadex all the time waiting for the scanlation
I at first mistook the month to last month, then mistook the day to 12 of this month instead of 17, and have been updating mangadex all the time waiting for the scanlation
I wonder if they'll give the update to people who pledged last month considering its now mid october
catalyst44
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It's all fun and games when you have a writer's block, except that money's on the line. .
I personally wouldn't fund 2+ months of writer's block. They already get a lot of money.
There's a certain responsibility they have, can't just use an excuse and not post an update.
I personally wouldn't fund 2+ months of writer's block. They already get a lot of money.
There's a certain responsibility they have, can't just use an excuse and not post an update.
ZanaSenpai
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Well that's just the thing then. Some of us are fine with funding it. It'll come out, it has for years. And they're good people. They don't right by us for this long. Shit happens. So I can give the benefit of the doubt when issues arise
Do remember, funding is not the same as you paying for the game, it is you providing the creator with funds regardless of the current progression, in a sense you're donating on the expectations of a product even if it has delays and set backs. There is no contract, and they don't owe shit to anyone, and considering they're by far more consistent than 90% of developers on here they can most certainly get paid for nothing if they have writers block for a bit.
If they for some reason lost money because they weren't 'productive enough' that provides disincentives to the creator, its because they are funded for both good and bad times that creators can feel more motivated to work because people aren't stingy with their wallets when hiccups happen. If it's for a prolonged period then that is more acceptable but when a pothole happens you ripping away the price of a sandwich over it isn't fucking helpful in the least. There are layers to this, and thankfully plenty of people putting in money even during rougher times when they aren't overly expecting something.
TrueJackal
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I understand not funding writer's block. But I think when someone is considering dropping support entirely or temporarily, writer's block vs laziness are very different situations.
We will get the Halloween episode before the update at this rate, wouldn't mind if they come together.
montblonk
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