FP Games are LACKING.

Dinamida

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My dear fappers,
i feel like there are eight times more male protagonist games than there are female. I know this because i've been following on a daily basis the updates and uploads of new games here.
I personally only played one or two male protagonist games and i hate it, While i also played almost all of the female protagonist games that this site has to offer (Talking about RPGM, Wolf RPG and some of the Others).
Tbh, there are maybe 5-6 good female protagonist games on this site, rest of it is shit, just moneygrabbing games with a stupid story such as "ooo i fuck man i like cock oo" and almost no content except for the standard RPGM models,gameplay,combat etc. Don't get me wrong tho, i like RPGM games cause of the RPG genre. I like fantasy in them, i like to engage in the combat, experience the story, feel what the character is going through... but thats not the case sadly.

Okay then, you want to ask "Why don't you just buy games off of dlsite/steam or look for a good game demo to test on ulmf?" I Have been doing that also recently. But its the same deal plus i lose money for testing such games. There are soo many games on dlsite/steam that have an amazing representation , and when i play the demo everything looks fine (for like 5-15 mins of gameplay). But when i play the actual game, I personally feel like its worse then what demo has to provide (moneygrabbing at its finest).

Okay so you want to recommend me some female protagonist games that are good in your opinion and you're certain i havent played them?
I've played them, i know of them, whatever you post me.. I can actually recommend you guys a few that are personally my favorites and have a lot of potential.

Work in progress:
LonaRPG is definitely my personal favorite, I love what EccmA417 is doing with this game. The game has its own unique artstyle, gameplay, story, progression, character interactions, passive interactions and much more. The skill tree is amazing and status is soooo well developed and not stale and useless like in most RPGM games. I could go on and on and on about this game how well its designed, how much Love is put into it and everything Else. Although it has its own flaws aswell, like for example, the main protagonist is somewhat of a loli character (If a debuff or a customization option was added to make her breasts larger that'd be a big sell for all the loli haters). There are bugs here and there, but for this game it's really unnoticable even tho its a massive game (and honestly , which game doesnt have them lol).

Completed Games:
Wings of Roldea is my second favorite. I honestly dont want to spoil anything for this game, cause the first impressions and experience that i had with it were ... Very Freaking Good.
If you, as a person who never played this game, entered it and played it for the first time till the end, you're going to know what im talking about.
Good job Waterspoon!

MaiDenSnow Eve and Marle - The Labyrinth of the Black Sea are two very good games with an amazing H combat system, although they both have some things that need to be added to make them way better than what they are. MaiDenSnow Eve could use a bit more variety and scenes than just 2 shadowy figures and Marle could really use an expansion, since the amount of content it has can be completed in less than 30 minutes.

Future Games:
Corruption of Ruby Rose is a game that im keeping my eye on constantly, it has soo many promises and so many possibilities to go for.
If you want, support 8ik9ol on his big project as i did :)

Big one

Thats Good games (not all, but some). If i counted the bad ones without any comments added to them, you'd be scrolling down for a week for certain.
So the state of the female protagonist games is shit. I wish , not more, but better content creators/developers that love what they're doing, focused on the female protagonist genre, cause these people who're moneygrabbing just fill up the site with nonsensical games and make it hard for people to find true quality.
 
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Karryn's Prison - DIY corruption (or just stay as a sadistic ice queen) at your own pace and with whatever content you want. Wanna be a waitress who flashes her melons for tips? Or a stress-reliever for her own guards? Or a virgin-killer worshipped by all the nerds? Or prim-and-proper in public but a cock vacuum behind the hole in the toilet stalls? It's up to you.

Naked Ambition - if you've played Princess Maker (or Long Long Live the Queen, so I'm told) you'll be somewhat familiar with the formula. AFAIK most of the sex content is about using sexuality to your advantage in the succession crisis.

Kingdom of Deception - It's a meme, I know, but I don't think there's a stronger, more independent female protagonist out there in a game. What I like about it, and also makes me uneasy, is it really puts her in a situation where she's put to the test, clawing her way up from literal rags.

Good Girl Gone Bad - well, this is the go-to example, isn't it? Being in a VN, it's out of my usual rubric, but I'm glad I checked it out for the strong writing and varied paths. Gets pretty heavy though.
 
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Karryn's Prison - DIY corruption (or just stay as a sadistic ice queen) at your own pace and with whatever content you want. Wanna be a waitress who flashes her melons for tips? Or a stress-reliever for her own guards? Or a virgin-killer worshipped by all the nerds? Or prim-and-proper in public but a cock vacuum behind the hole in the toilet stalls? It's up to you.

Naked Ambition - if you've played Princess Maker (or Long Long Live the Queen, so I'm told) you'll be somewhat familiar with the formula. AFAIK most of the sex content is about using sexuality to your advantage in the succession crisis.

Kingdom of Deception - It's a meme, I know, but I don't think there's a stronger, more independent female protagonist out there in a game. What I like about it, and also makes me uneasy, is it really puts her in a situation where she's put to the test, clawing her way up from literal rags.

Good Girl Gone Bad - well, this is the go-to example, isn't it? Being in a VN, it's out of my usual rubric, but I'm glad I checked it out for the strong writing and varied path. Gets pretty heavy though.

Played all of them except for Naked Ambition because it's a Ren'py or in other words, VN for phones. (looks interesting tho)

Karryn's Prison has good unique combat, H combat, enemy feelings (?), progression and trait (?) system. Tho the bad things are the story, the enemies are all the same, just different colored cocks and the main protagonist herself (ESPECIALLY THE MP). Those big titties are masssssiiiveeeeee, the butt is waaaay too big and the head is shrunken so much that it would only logically fit on a child (yuck imo).

Good Girl Gone Bad is a VN, yes, i have played it to the end. It's an interesting concept/story, your choices (with who you want to be friends with and what decisions you make in certain situations) take you on unique pathways that lead to any of the multiple endings if i remember correctly.
Game itself sounds good, but still it's a VN... You play VN games by pressing the skip button until a decision pops, then you click on the most lewd one and there's your VN game (not talking on my way of playing, but of most other people who've commented on VN games in general).
Also, personally, the whole gameplay is in a urban surrounding, and as i stated earlier, i love me some fantasy/medieval games :3

Kingdom of Deception used to be good until a certain patch when the original developer (who made Noxian Nights lowkey forgot name and too lazy to check it) gave (or sold idk) the game to another developer. That's when the game started feeling a bit boring, and the original plan was then changed to it being just another VN game with pretty pictures (after the original developer content). I will however admit that i really had a good time until that moment.

I Will say one thing, these games are good as is and i would definitely recommend people to try them out. Tho they're also very popular and amongst the most played games. Just tells you what female protagonist games are currently. Either a VN/Ren'py game that not really many people care about or a big titty big booty little sweetheart turned into a bimbo or a massive potential getting ruined or being abandoned.
 
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Out of topic.
I really dont understand why feminists and all these organisations are censoring and banning as much sexual content as they can (not certain if its them, but am pretty certain they're involved). It hurts more than it helps. I mean for example check pornhub. Almost all of the creators i've watched and followed are removed. H-Games, Less and less content is being made (starting to get very noticable recently). Imagine all the lust in men and women piling up inside. We about to have a sexpocalypse if they continue this way XD
But for real, there'd certainly be more % of rape, pedophilia and necrophilia this way, than lowering the numbers as they originally planned to.
 
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i feel like there are eight times more male protagonist games than there are female. I know this because i've been following on a daily basis the updates and uploads of new games here.
Total Amount of Games ------------------ 8552
Male Protagonist ------------------------- 5326
Female Protagonist ---------------------- 2757

No, there aren't 8 times more male protagonist games than females games. There aren't even twice as many.

Then, if you think there are only X good female protagonist games and the rest are bad/cash grabs it's another problem and that's mostly personal because what sucks for you is gold for someone else.
 

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There's some classic advice that goes "Write What You Know." I don't know what the adult game developer demographics are like, but you might find an answer there.

Then again, there's the trope of all artists (furry or otherwise) having side gigs drawing furry porn. I imagine if there's money in making it, the creators will come.
 

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I think this is mostly just an issue of there being WAY more male devs than female ones. So you're a lot more likely to get games with a male main character than a female one from male devs. I'm still in the early stages of development for the games I want to make, but I do have plans for some with female main characters. The problem from a developer perspective is the writing.

I'm a guy. I know how guys think. I know what motivates us. I'm a lot less certain about how women think and about what motivates them. It's also harder for me to put myself in a female character's position to empathize with her enough to make a convincing story. I have some extra hoops I have to jump through for that to work.

For a male character all I have to do is think about what I would do in that character's situation. For a female character I have to first try and construct a female mindset for how I think my thought process should work. A lot of that is based on stereotypes, movies, tv shows, and reactions I've seen from women in real life, but none of it is based on personal experience since I'm not a woman.
 

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I'm a guy. I know how guys think. I know what motivates us.
Stereotypes are harmful, and also inaccurate if you're going to make sweeping statements about "us". Things like culture, upbringing, personal experiences and of course personality can all significantly impact one's relationships, how one thinks about others and one's approach to sexuality. So it annoys me when someone makes assumptions based on sex or gender, especially when a lot of them don't apply to me.
 
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khumak

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Stereotypes are harmful, and also inaccurate if you're going to make sweeping statements about "us". Things like culture, upbringing, personal experiences and of course personality can all significantly impact one's relationships, how one thinks about others and one's approach to sexuality. So it annoys me when someone makes assumptions based on sex or gender.
Stereotypes exist for a reason. They fit a significant chunk of the people they apply to. Certainly not everyone, but they're based on observations that large numbers of people have made about whatever group is involved. For instance, women love shopping. There's a stereotype. It's not true of all women, but it IS true of most of the women I know. It's common for a lot of women to treat shopping as entertainment. They don't go shopping because they need something. They go shopping because they're bored and they consider it fun. I don't know ANY guys who do that, including myself. So when writing for a woman I can't just think about what I would do in that situation, because what I would do is NOT what most women would do.

So when writing for a particular character, I'm going to start from the stereotypical man or woman and then tweak that personality in whatever ways I think they're different from the stereotype. Also depending on what that character is supposed to do the stereotypes could keep piling on top of each other. If I'm writing for a male, coal miner, living in a small town in the south, I would probably start off by making him a stereotypical male, as well as a redneck, with a chip on his shoulder about "elites", etc.
 

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Stereotypes exist for a reason. They fit a significant chunk of the people they apply to. Certainly not everyone, but they're based on observations that large numbers of people have made about whatever group is involved. For instance, women love shopping. There's a stereotype. It's not true of all women, but it IS true of most of the women I know. It's common for a lot of women to treat shopping as entertainment. They don't go shopping because they need something. They go shopping because they're bored and they consider it fun. I don't know ANY guys who do that, including myself. So when writing for a woman I can't just think about what I would do in that situation, because what I would do is NOT what most women would do.
Yeah, I won't dispute that. It's just the way that so many people omit the word "most" or "average" that grinds my gears. Because generalizations can lead to assumptions, and assumptions can lead to behavior that's unfair to non-conforming individuals. Eh, never mind me, I'm just venting.
 

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I think a lot of games, regardless of protagonist's gender, are money-grubbing cash grabs.
A potential avenue for female protagonist games would be text-only interactive fiction. Or visual novels where the
female character isn't shown. This would better target the romance/erotica population who don't need a visual of the main character.
 

Dinamida

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Total Amount of Games ------------------ 8552
Male Protagonist ------------------------- 5326
Female Protagonist ---------------------- 2757

No, there aren't 8 times more male protagonist games than females games. There aren't even twice as many.
Currently those are the numbers, and you're right, but what i was aiming at, is by following these games on a daily basis i see less and less female protagonist games that are somewhat good. I see a good female protagonist game maybe once a month atm.
 
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Dinamida

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I'm a guy. I know how guys think. I know what motivates us. I'm a lot less certain about how women think and about what motivates them. It's also harder for me to put myself in a female character's position to empathize with her enough to make a convincing story. I have some extra hoops I have to jump through for that to work.
My man, i'm a guy also, and i dont like playing male protagonist games at all, female prot games are my thing really... And no, im not gay either, im maybe even a homophobe. So your assumption is invalid.
 

Dinamida

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There's some classic advice that goes "Write What You Know." I don't know what the adult game developer demographics are like, but you might find an answer there.
I might've exaggerated a bit on my first post, but its nothing but truth that im typing. Im monitoring the state of the RPGM/Wolf RPG/Others female protagonist games for a year now. I write what i know. :)
 

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My man, i'm a guy also, and i dont like playing male protagonist games at all, female prot games are my thing really... And no, im not gay either, im maybe even a homophobe. So your assumption is invalid.
I meant the more stereotypical guy. Obviously not everyone is the same.
 
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