PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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Yeah. I know about Patreon and their bullshit. I just don't want to be banging Nicki. I'd like to be able to see her as the annoying little sister, without all the "Let's bang, bro.". That entire scene with her felt so off for me. "Hey, I'm helping you, lil sis. I didn't do it to bang you. I did it because I care about you. Now, go tell your shitty boyfriend to fuck off and if he has a problem with me, he can come to me himself." But, sister or not, at least we'll be able to get her on the friend path later.

As for forced, that first scene with her was forced. How we treated her in it, was our choice. But, whether or not NeonGhosts fixes it, changes it or not, I'm still going to play this one.
By "nothing's forced", I of course mean the patch doesn't force you into a darker route or anything :D Some people might see 'rape' category or read what the patch adds and think "oh no..." and not realize the game can basically be as wholesome and innocent as you want it to, really.

The sex with Nicki in the beginning was forced by Neon, yeah, but at the same time it's a sex game and he planned for that encounter to affect both the MC & Nicki for the rest of the story. I understand why that'd bother some people, especially your case haha, but lucky for you and others, Neon's adding friend route from the beginning, so this will all be moot in a matter of... I'd guess 6 months at most. :cool:

Well... except for the dweebs that want Nicki totally removed from the game altogether :rolleyes::LOL:
 

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By "nothing's forced", I of course mean the patch doesn't force you into a darker route or anything :D Some people might see 'rape' category or read what the patch adds and think "oh no..." and not realize the game can basically be as wholesome and innocent as you want it to, really.

The sex with Nicki in the beginning was forced by Neon, yeah, but at the same time it's a sex game and he planned for that encounter to affect both the MC & Nicki for the rest of the story. I understand why that'd bother some people, especially your case haha, but lucky for you and others, Neon's adding friend route from the beginning, so this will all be moot in a matter of... I'd guess 6 months at most. :cool:

Well... except for the dweebs that want Nicki totally removed from the game altogether :rolleyes::LOL:
Yeah. I wouldn't want her removed and if NeonGhosts doesn't add in a friend path, which is his choice, I guess I'm just stuck banging my sister. :sick::LOL: Not a deal breaker on the storyline for me though. Just weird and slightly sickening. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Yeah. I wouldn't want her removed and if NeonGhosts doesn't add in a friend path, which is his choice, I guess I'm just stuck banging my sister. :sick::LOL: Not a deal breaker on the storyline for me though. Just weird and slightly sickening. :ROFLMAO:
Just take a gummy and a bottle of hard liquor with you before your fap session and it'll go a little smoother! You might even forget it ever happened! :ROFLMAO:
 
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Zerorox

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Oh Nicki, so perfect character, so imperfect almost like real human. Still, I don't want that lacking in Willpower MC fuck her at first opportunity :FacePalm:
 

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I am mostly okay with any other character, but Nicki is filled with red flags. I think a few background scenes about your friendship with her before you decide on her faith would be helpful. Maybe a scene that shows she really tried to reach you, but MC refused to talk to her with his reasoning; a few memory scenes about their friendship; maybe a few scenes when she was talking about what happened to her in those 3 months, etc. Things like that will help us understand what you meant with Nicki. You have an idea while you are writing her, but since we don't know anything about it as players, you should show us, tell us, and remind us what she means to MC. If not, it's hard to like her, I think. A few posts above, I tried to make a joke about how she reminded me of Jenny from Forrest Gump. If you watched Forrest Gump, and the movie didn't have any scenes that showed Forrest and Jenny's friendship, would you ever be understanding of Jenny, let alone like her? I hope this will help you to see other perspective.
Why does any of that even matter? Just curious. As I really am not comfortable with knowing certain things. Like with my RL sister, I don't ask many questions when she pops up. Mainly if she's ok and do I need to kick someone's ass. Nothing else really matters to me. But, at least my sister would dump a piece of shit like Nicki's bf.
 

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Yeah, sure thing :ROFLMAO:
Registering at this forum You must agree for some terms:
- I'm pervert, and know it
- I'll not kink shame other perverts
- I'm...
I take exception to the second. lol People kink shame(?) me for not liking certain things, so, I take it as my job to return the favor. ;):D

As Bruce Hornsby would say:
That's just the way it is
Some things will never change
 
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Zerorox

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the rape nicki route is fucking extreme. in the submissive one there are some glimpses about their supposed friendship. if prefer to just ignore them so mc can move to their house the nice bimbos lmao
Ashe and Brit are not bimbos :mad::ROFLMAO:
I'm still hoping for anry nonsex scene for Nicki, but You'll interact with her on any route and will able to ignore her only in sexual way. But yeah, it's always nice to have choise.
 

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anyone know when we might expect an update? i was under the impression that we would get one end of March
I’m planning to put out the Beta to $15 subs later today. Currently setting images, and then I’ll have to do some quick bug-testing/squashing.

The $5 version will be available next Friday.

The scope of the chapter kept growing, so the release date unfortunately kept getting knocked back.
 

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I’m planning to put out the Beta to $15 subs later today. Currently setting images, and then I’ll have to do some quick bug-testing/squashing.

The $5 version will be available next Friday.

The scope of the chapter kept growing, so the release date unfortunately kept getting knocked back.
thanks appreciate the hard work that goes into this!! looking forward to the new chapter
 
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Why does any of that even matter? Just curious. As I really am not comfortable with knowing certain things. Like with my RL sister, I don't ask many questions when she pops up. Mainly if she's ok and do I need to kick someone's ass. Nothing else really matters to me. But, at least my sister would dump a piece of shit like Nicki's bf.
The thing is, she is not MC's sister; she is her main love interest. She is practically using him and emotionally blackmailing him. The developer says they are good friends and have always helped each other in the past. Even mentioned in game, but after people make up their minds about her, she helped him when he needed it and he helped her when she needed it; and she was with her boyfriend out of necessity, not love; but it was too late for the decision. So, it matters because we can make educated decisions about her; we would have a positive bias about her. Up until the decision point, she did not even deserve to be heard after she mentioned money.

For example, MC mentioned he lost his car and had to cycle to work every day, and she didn't even know about it. If we know the background of it, this could swing both ways. If she didn't even notice MC cycling to work, if she didn't even bother to ask, then she is not a friend, just a leech trying to suck money off of MC for her boyfriend's debts while she knew MC was in love with her. Or maybe she dug; she wanted to know, but MC did not tell her out of his pride. She might have tried to help him, tried to give him some money for the bus when it rained, but MC refused. You cannot blame her for this, can you? So like I said without background of events, things can swing both ways.

Now, when you try to tell a story and you are vague about something, you are risking having readers fill in the gaps with their own ideas. When they fill the gaps, it's nearly impossible to change them. If this is about some side character, it won't matter too much and even can add some depth to the story, but if you are doing it for the main focused character, it is an incredible risk. Clearly, dev doesn't want us to fill those gaps with negative things, so it is important that dev fill these gaps themselves. That's why that matters.

Like you said, if you see your sister in Nicki, you fill these gaps positively; if someone else sees their toxic ex, they fill the gaps negatively; if someone like me, who approaches everything with a grain of salt, expects the worst from her, and so on. Leaving some plot points vague and letting readers fill them is an extremely good branching method; you let people decide what they think about certain people, then branch accordingly, but if you want people to think a certain way, you should tell them. How you do that would be your writing skill, but you have to.
 
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The thing is, she is not MC's sister; she is her main love interest. She is practically using him and emotionally blackmailing him. The developer says they are good friends and have always helped each other in the past. Even mentioned in game, but after people make up their minds about her, she helped him when he needed it and he helped her when she needed it; and she was with her boyfriend out of necessity, not love; but it was too late for the decision. So, it matters because we can make educated decisions about her; we would have a positive bias about her. Up until the decision point, she did not even deserve to be heard after she mentioned money.

For example, MC mentioned he lost his car and had to cycle to work every day, and she didn't even know about it. If we know the background of it, this could swing both ways. If she didn't even notice MC cycling to work, if she didn't even bother to ask, then she is not a friend, just a leech trying to suck money off of MC for her boyfriend's debts while she knew MC was in love with her. Or maybe she dug; she wanted to know, but MC did not tell her out of his pride. She might have tried to help him, tried to give him some money for the bus when it rained, but MC refused. You cannot blame her for this, can you? So like I said without background of events, things can swing both ways.

Now, when you try to tell a story and you are vague about something, you are risking having readers fill in the gaps with their own ideas. When they fill the gaps, it's nearly impossible to change them. If this is about some side character, it won't matter too much and even can add some depth to the story, but if you are doing it for the main focused character, it is an incredible risk. Clearly, dev doesn't want us to fill those gaps with negative things, so it is important that dev fill these gaps themselves. That's why that matters.

Like you said, if you see your sister in Nicki, you fill these gaps positively; if someone else sees their toxic ex, they fill the gaps negatively; if someone like me, who approaches everything with a grain of salt, expects the worst from her, and so on. Leaving some plot points vague and letting readers fill them is an extremely good branching method; you let people decide what they think about certain people, then branch accordingly, but if you want people to think a certain way, you should tell them. How you do that would be your writing skill, but you have to.
I understand your reasoning and I don't fault you for it. I would feel the same if it was an ex. I wouldn't want anything to do with her.
 

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Yeah, there's always going to be random games that hit a little too close to home for a particular person. There's one game in particular that has a niece (sorry, step-niece) who has the same name as my IRL niece, and she's a mandatory LI, so I noped out of that one real quick. Doesn't mean it's a bad game, just an unfortunate coincidence that squicks me out too much.
 
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