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Before the dark path meant death + blood and now in current games it's cuck + sharing :LOL:
In the dark path i tought mc was going to kill Jamie or steal ashe mom from his bumbling husband. Welp we better have mc share the fucking girls or better yet what if he fucking gangbangs them
For fucks sake
 

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In the dark path i tought mc was going to kill Jamie or steal ashe mom from his bumbling husband. Welp we better have mc share the fucking girls or better yet what if he fucking gangbangs them
For fucks sake
"In the dark path i tought mc was going to kill Jamie or steal ashe mom from his bumbling husband".
That's a great idea but I don't think it'll happen. Gangbangs LIS because the MC is "self confident" and dark ... :ROFLMAO:
 
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In the dark path i tought mc was going to kill Jamie or steal ashe mom from his bumbling husband. Welp we better have mc share the fucking girls or better yet what if he fucking gangbangs them
For fucks sake
another reason I'm a good path player over evil. While none of that stuff matters to me in the slightest if it's in the game as I find I can disconnect my self from the MC or game easily and enjoy anything thrown at me really. I wouldn't want it to be something that would a common occurrence but also because of some of the dark themes in evil path id have a feeling it make me uncomfortable doing those choices as id imagine it would be pretty dark in how it's executed. Doing dark things as the MC is the one thing I find hard to disconnect myself from in games as i hate being evil or a asshole to LI but still do them once to see the content.
 

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"In the dark path i tought mc was going to kill Jamie or steal ashe mom from his bumbling husband".
That's a great idea but I don't think it'll happen. Gangbangs LIS because the MC is "self confident" and dark ... :ROFLMAO:
Mc is such and alpha that instead of setting a casting couch for more Blonde bimbos he is going to cuck himself instead
 

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I actually don't mind MMF threesomes in these games
But I don't think I would like the ones that might be added here
Because I don't want to dominate or hurt any of the girls or Mason

But it's optional so I don't care that they are there
I respect Neonghosts for having a vision and sticking to creating the game he wants to make
I have seen too many devs be bullied about the stuff in their games

Anyway goodluck with the next update mate
I hear Mason is going to be in it
I'm already excited.
 
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I actually don't mind MMF threesomes in these games
But I don't think I would like the ones that might be added here
Because I don't want to dominate or hurt any of the girls or Mason

But it's optional so I don't care that they are there
I respect Neonghosts for having a vision and sticking to creating the game he wants to make
I have seen too many devs be bullied about the stuff in their games

Anyway goodluck with the next update mate
I hear Mason is going to be in it
I'm already excited.
I'm with you on this one, don't like to hurt them as well, especially Mason
But its optional, if I don't want to be a jerk I can go to that path no problem, Neonghosts never made me feel like I'm obligated to go and dominate them
As you said and it has been said before here, but I do hope to see Mason, don't care if its just for a tiny bit, thats my number 1 LI and I love every second with Mason
 

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I honestly never understood the anti NTR thing at all. Then again I guess might be cause I never truly get immersed and self inset my self as the MC. So I usally find it easy to disconnect myself from the game or MC when there is something I wouldn't do or be into yet I want to see or do it in the game for the sake for seeing all the content.
 
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Orgitas

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I honestly never understood the anti NTR thing at all. Then again I guess might be cause I never truly get immersed and self inset my self as the MC. So I usally find it easy to disconnect myself from the game or MC when there is something I wouldn't do or be into yet I want to see or do it in the game for the sake for seeing all the content.

Personally? I don't care what kink is in a game as long as it makes sense for it to be there. Certain things should be optional, too. Right, need more coffee!
 
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The only AVN that upset me about NTR was B.B. when I sold out my sister's weakness to Eric.
 

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Personally? I don't care what kink is in a game as long as it makes sense for it to be there. Certain things should be optional, too. Right, need more coffee!
I don't self insert but find that often with ntr the wrightig takes a nose dive and the tone changes to be spiteful and mean toward the player and not the character. It's a strange pattern that I've noticed in vns and other media, often with a "moral" of you made this happen through your inaction. With that being the case, especially in a vn where the author makes the decisions with the illusion of player choice, I can understand why people would not like ntr situations. In real life if a girl cheats on you you can tell her off or beat up the guy, you never get that choice or opportunity in most vns, which further drives home that the author is trying to create a weak powerless character which is something most people don't want to read about because they can't understand or emphasize with it. I see ntr as an extension of misery porn, because that's what it is.
 
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Orgitas

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I don't self insert but find that often with ntr the wrightig takes a nose dive and the tone changes to be spiteful and mean toward the player and not the character. It's a strange pattern that I've noticed in vns and other media, often with a "moral" of you made this happen through your inaction. With that being the case, especially in a vn where the author makes the decisions with the illusion of player choice, I can understand why people would not like ntr situations. In real life if a girl cheats on you you can tell her off or beat up the guy, you never get that choice or opportunity in most vns, which further drives home that the author is trying to create a weak powerless character which is something most people don't want to read about because they can't understand or emphasize with it. I see ntr as an extension of misery porn, because that's what it is.

There is, indeed, a lot of issues with writing in many AVNs. Any one can pick up a pen, but not everyone can write poetry, as they say. Over use of tropes. Bad archetypes. Pacing is all off. Just a general observation and not an insult, naturally, to the authors out there. The biggest gripe I have that is prevalent in far too many AVNs is use of the "willfully blind" MC. No matter if they are, not so, intelligent or a genius. They cannot connect the dots. That, particular, trait should be used in rare circumstances. However, it seems to be rampant in many characters. Used to keep the plot alive, and moving, because it is easy to do.

If you, me, or anyone else here were plopped into an AVN, we could probably resolve most things by the middle of the second episode, is all I am saying.

Nice conversation, this - pseudo cathartic.
 

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There is, indeed, a lot of issues with writing in many AVNs. Any one can pick up a pen, but not everyone can write poetry, as they say. Over use of tropes. Bad archetypes. Pacing is all off. Just a general observation and not an insult, naturally, to the authors out there. The biggest gripe I have that is prevalent in far too many AVNs is use of the "willfully blind" MC. No matter if they are, not so, intelligent or a genius. They cannot connect the dots. That, particular, trait should be used in rare circumstances. However, it seems to be rampant in many characters. Used to keep the plot alive, and moving, because it is easy to do.

If you, me, or anyone else here were plopped into an AVN, we could probably resolve most things by the middle of the second episode, is all I am saying.

Nice conversation, this - pseudo cathartic.

You seem to have good sense and I agree with the stuff you are saying. I have played a handful of VNs and only very rarely do I feel like the MC is making reasonable decisions (even in ones where I get to choose from a decision tree, it still feels off). The only game I've played recently that I thought was smartly written is Projekt: Passion. I know it's subjective but what games would you consider are good in your opinion? Low-key looking for game recs :p
 

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Yeah i dont really see why people are offended by optional content, as long as its clearly indicated.
To my understanding, they complain because the devs have to spend time making contents they hate instead of focusing on what they like. NTR crowds are pretty powerful, and there have been cases of games with mostly non-NTR/sharing contents get slowly flipped around.
 
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